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SoYouWantTo have a bunch of red links...

So I noticed yesterday that someone made Write The Next Bionicle, which was recently put on the Cut List. I went to the main index to So You Want To and...there are a lot of red links. Like a lot. And they've been added to the page for years without any sort of effort on actually making them pages.

What should be done about these? I know red links are not inherently bad, but I question why these should even be there to begin with.

Is "Does the Dog Die" tropable enough? Web Original

I had a look at doesthedogdie.com for the first time in years and I saw that it's expanded to include a whole load of potential triggers, not all of them necessarily related to death e.g. misgendering, vomiting, trypophobia etc. Examples of triggers are added to a work's page on the site by members. Since we deal with a lot of tropes covering negative topics such as Black Dude Dies First and Bury Your Gays, do you think this could warrant the site a page on this wiki or would that be too tasteless?

Recurring plagiarism issues on thread.

So uh Villainfan35817 seems to. Have serious issue with plagiarism on proposals over on the,complete monster proposal thread. Despite the fact he's been warned like a bunch of times and thumped. He just continues.

At this point he's done this three times. Despite being highlighted at the top of the tread to not do it and being warned each time.

• April 14th
• on May 18th

• June 6th

Four Point Scale

Four-Point Scale has this passage:

Think of just how hard it is to actually get lower than 60% on an assignment. Even if you hand in complete crap for your essay on the Punic Wars, it will be hard to get much lower than 60%. For you to get under 60%, you pretty much have to turn in something that goes beyond "not being good." Unless you forget to include the last 3 pages of your essay, and accuse Napoléon Bonaparte of engineering the Punic Wars to cause the September 11 attacks, all written in another language with ink made from cat urine, you probably did enough to avoid a score of less than 60%. Game developers that achieve this level of suck quickly go out of business, which in turns explains why games rarely ever get scores below 60%. This also explains why there are few games that get under 75%, as most game developers know that churning out sub-par products isn't good long-term business practice, and those who don't know it quickly learn the lesson.

This passage feels weird to me. Like, I don't know what kind of fucked up school whoever wrote this went to where they apparently didnt hand out fail marks unless you wrote utter nonsense.

Why is the TLP rejecting my formatting for a quote?

I'm working on a TLP for Team Mercy vs Team Murder, and I found a quote that I think works well for it. The problem is that for some reason the text formatting trick of using two backslashes isn't just not working, it's not even applying. Every time I try to put 2 backslashes on the line I want to indent, one of the slashes just gets deleted, what's happening?

Concerning WriteTheNextBionicle

I was wondering if there is any help on remaking Write The Next Bionicle article from "So You Want To" Series. I admit though, it was my first time doing an article on TV Tropes, so I wish to make it right. I might even do one for Ninjago.

Memetic Loser

I have a question about the trope Memetic Loser. The trope was deleted from the YMMV page of the band 883 with the edit reason "calling real people "losers" is most likely a violation of ROCEJ". The Memetic Loser entry was fairly neutral, and I only explained why he was a meme. There are also TV tropes pages of other bands (The Beatles, Spice Girls, Destiny's Child) where one member of the group is referred to as a Memetic Loser in the YMMV pages. Also, the Memetic Loser page has a "Music" section, with Justin Bieber and others being mentioned.

So, is this trope allowed for real people or not?

Kosher?

I see the term "kosher" thrown around on the forums, and I've never exactly been sure what it means in this context.

TRS crowner

There is an active crowner for Long Title at the Trope Repair Shop. Click here if you want to join the discussion.

Is it safe to resurrect the Five Nights at Freddy's franchise page? Videogame

It is listed in the page creation for Franchise.Five Nights At Freddys that it was cut because of "misuse of franchise namespace". I am assuming that this is because there were only two mediums of video games and literature covered. Now that there is a film listed in the media list, that means there are now three mediums spanning the IP. Based on the rules of a franchise page being created, does that mean that the franchise page can safely be recreated, with VideoGame.Five Nights At Freddys becoming a redirect?

Why people obsessed with the word "Egregious"?

I see it a lot on this website as a ZCE and it even has it's own page Egregious. Why most people love using that word? And should I delete the examples that use it as ZCE?

Purposeful typo in wikiword request

Just a heads-up for whatever staff members are handling wikiword requests: VideoGame.Slayers X Terminal Aftermath Vengance Of The Slayer has an Inherited Illiteracy Title ("Vengance" instead of "Vengeance") meant as a joke about the poor literacy of the game's fictional "creator." The current custom title that adds the Colon Cancer also accidentally corrected the typo; I've submitted a request to "fix" it and figured I should give a heads up that it's an intentional mispelling.

Trope where if the player and CPU both lose, it's treated as the player losing Videogame

The best example I currently have is from Video Game/Pokemon wherein if both the player's and opponent's final Pokémon faint on the same turn, the player blacks/whites out.

Edit War?

So on YMMV.Yellowjackets, harrietvanger added this Angst? What Angst? entry:

• None of the other girls except Shauna feel especially affected by Jackie's death, or the role they might have played in it. Natalie, for instance, never mentions fighting with Jackie over Travis.

Wary Hoglet removed it citing "Jackie had spent the last few months going out of her way to belittle and alienate everyone else in the group. It's not Angst? What Angst?, they sincerely just didn't really care at that point" Which I don't think really holds up considering even then they still saw someone die but I don't really care either way. However, then yesterday harrietvanger added this new Angst? What Angst? entry:

• Nobody has any issues around Jackie's death except Shauna; Mari even outright blames just Shauna, although every single character in the past timeline has a role in Jackie's death. This is exaggerated in that nobody seems to have a big problem with cannibalizing Jackie, which may be justifiable by the fact that they're starving, but the indifference about her death from even sympathetic characters like Natalie is jarring, and that Travis lost his virginity to Jackie mere hours before her death is an even bigger ignored story.

Which is the basic entry in spirit if not exact words. This wasnt discussed anywhere from what I can tell and they left no edit reason. Is this edit warring?

Total Drama edit war

• El Juaco added this Catharsis Factor entry.
• studogcarter removes it.
• El Juaco adds back the entry with alternate wording but the same concept.
• studogcarter removes the Catharsis Factor entry again

Wiki Talk crowner

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Can't Unhear it Misuse?

Hello, I saw this listed under the Western Animation folder for Can't Un-Hear It

• Thanks to a 4chan post, it's become memetic that any picture of Farnsworth with the caption "Good news, everyone!" will cause the viewer to read it in his voice.
  • Same thing with the Old Spice Guy.
  • One imageboard-made Drinking Game has one card titled "Yay.", with a picture of Fluttershy. The text: if you read the card's title with Fluttershy's voice, finish your drink.
  • Oh nooo, y'all just read this in my voice.◊
  • Some of the earliest imageboard examples of this involve Boxy Brown, a cardboard box inanimate object from Aqua Teen Hunger Force.
    • I'M JUST A WHAT, BITCH?!?

I think it's misuse since it's not referring to specific actors playing specific characters (also characters like Farnsworth really only has 1 voice actor), but was unsure. (Also, 4chan and Old Spice are not Western Animation)

ghibli film namespaces

i noticed that many studio ghibli films are categorized in Anime/, even if they're based on manga (i.e. Anime.Porco Rosso, Anime.Only Yesterday) or novels (i.e. Anime.Kikis Delivery Service). it does kind of make me wonder what our policy for this sort of thing is, as i understand sometimes anime adaptations are folded into the medium of their original work (Manga.Nausicaa Of The Valley Of The Wind, Literature.Sound Euphonium) but sometimes they're separated (Anime.Howls Moving Castle and Literature.Howls Moving Castle, Anime.When Marnie Was There and Literature.When Marnie Was There). is the requirement that the adaptation is different enough from the source material to trope separately?

A question about 24-hour launch notices

If you have a trope ready to launch and put up the 24-hour notice, but then something happens in real life and you can't get to it for a few days, do you have to put up a new 24-hour notice? Or is it acceptable to launch a ready-to-launch trope at any time after 24 hours has passed and the notice has been put up?

Potentially iffy entry on Dated History

This entry on The Holodomor was recently added to the Dated History page:

• During the Cold War, it was not uncommon for western intellectuals to assume that the infamous Holodomor famine of 1932 and 1933 was an intentional genocide against Ukraine done by Stalin's government, or that the Soviet government in some way manufactured the famine for whatever reason more generally. Various books on the topic, most famously Robert Conquest's 1986 book The Harvest of Sorrow: Soviet Collectivization and the Terror-Famine, from before the fall of the USSR promote this narrative, often pointing to official Soviet documents which to help support this case. Even ignoring that many found Conquest—who was a self-described "Cold Warrior" and open about his bias against the USSR and in favor of the west—the lack of anything to back up this notion after the fall of the Soviet Union and the release of various previously classified documents shows this to be little more than baseless speculation, with Conquest himself later making it clear he didn't view the famine to be anything more than the result of bad policy by the Soviets in his later years, although he also added that he believes it could have been prevented if Stalin had not put Soviet interests above that of feeding his people.

Now, it's definitely true that the famine may have been "merely" the result of bad agricultural policy rather than deliberately engineered by Stalin's regime. However, the Soviet government's response (selling food that could have been used to help victims to foreign countries and actively attempting to cover up what was happening) means that even if the famine wasn't intentional, it can't be called a tragic but innocent mistake. Moreover, the fact that it coincided with attempts to target Ukrainian cultural identity and the fact that Ukrainian-majority areas even outside Ukraine suffered disproportionately during the famine both heavily suggest that Stalin took advantage of it even if he didn't deliberately set out to cause it.

I'm going to give Ephrom The Josine the benefit of the doubt since I have no reason to automatically assume they wrote this to push some kind of agenda, but this entry nevertheless comes off as lacking in nuance and (especially in regard to current events) potentially insensitive. Still, if they're willing to talk things over, I'm willing to hear them out.