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openWhy has Heroes Want Redheads not been added to LA by Night yet? Web Original
Pretty sure 'Heroes Want Redheads' applies to both Annabelle and Jasper, it's even lampshaded in the intro segment(s) for the season 2 epilogue's when X is describing the visions pertaining to the episode 'Save The Darkness', Jasper and Annabelle look at each other the moment X mentions a 'pretty redhead who is drowning', the two shot in question literally screams 'your's (Ellanore) or mine? (Chloe)'.
So what gives?
Edited by YWKMAB_11openArcaneAzmadi possibly edit warring on YMMV/UltimateSpiderMan
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=YMMV.UltimateSpiderMan
Arcane Azmadi added a lengthy example to They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character. Grigor II deleted it on grounds of misuse. Azmadi proceeded to add the exact same example again under They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot.
it's not the same trope, but this still qualifies as an edit war, doesn't it? also, it comes off as rather complainy to me.
openStub Draft Spam
I hope I'm not acting too quickly or anything, but corindhero has made three non-effort stub TLP drafts in the past 20 minutes. I'm trying to talk to them on the drafts and get some conversation going, but they don't seem to be listening. It seems like they're just creating garbage drafts one-after-another.
openCan’t Unhear It Western Animation
Does anyone think that the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles franchise has any Cant Unhear It examples that could go into the Comic Book section of this trope? If so, can some people help me?.
Edited by Thetropemaster101openIs this a fair deletion?
On the YMMV page for Aladdin, here, asjshfsdf deleted the entries for Actor Shipping and Ho Yay with the edit reason "Let's focus on actual LGBT rep and not encourage 'shipping' real people, thanks."
I haven't seen Aladdin (2019), so the entries might not apply, but I question the reasoning. Deleting Actor Shipping for "encouraging the shipping of real people" seems...I don't know, like deleting the audience reaction because it exists and they don't like it? On top of that, is the point of Ho Yay not that it's unintentional romantic tension between two same-gendered characters, i.e. not "actual LGBT rep"?
Edited by iamconstantineopenA Question About The Forums
Story of Seasons has two separate forum threads. Is that okay?
openWhy is Culpa Innata suddenly a Visual Novel? Videogame
To get people's minds off the other ATT discussion, here is a query I wanted to make for a while, but kept forgetting: does anyone know why VisualNovel.Culpa Innata uses that namespace instead of a Video Game one?
As in, here is what that Turkish game actually plays like. It may be cutscene-heavy, but it's no more of a visual novel than, say Dreamfall: The Longest Journey or any other of its Adventure Game contemporaries.
Absent opposition, I'll be moving this tomorrow.
openOn in-universe versions of YMMV's
OK, so YMMV's are occasionally used in-universe. Normally, this would be formatted like this:
- Author's Saving Throw: In-Universe, Alice the novelist stops basing her antagonist upon Bob so that Bob will like her books better.
But sometimes, there is a trope, which is basically "YMMV X, but In-Universe".
So when is it OK to do a split and when is it not? I'm asking because Ear Worm seems to have a lot of in-universe examples.
openRenaming a work page to English title?
It's kind of hard to search for recent information, but: if a foreign work (say Japanese) is licensed to English, do I have to announce anything in order to move the page to that new English title? Or any discussion?
In this case I'm thinking of moving Maou No Ore Ga Dorei Elf Wo Yome Ni Shitanda Ga Dou Medereba Ii to An Archdemons Dilemma How To Love Your Elf Bride since that's the English title (although I did set it up as redirect earlier to the former, since I don't know about moving policy yet)
Edited by onyhowopenare images hosted on Wikimedia Commons kosher for trope pages?
i was looking for a good image for my TLP Drums of War and found this one id like to use: 1◊
i just wanted to make sure the image is okay to use; i don't want to get the site in hot water over licensing issues. Wikimedia says it's licensed under creative commons as long as credit is given to the photographer (David Wilmot on Flickr). i would do this with the following caption:
Image courtesy of David Wilmot, used with permission.
is this acceptable?
Edited by razorrozar7openis this a violation of ROCEJ? Webcomic
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.OvershadowedByControversy
Scifimaster 92 deleted the following entry from Overshadowed by Controversy:
- Sinfest, a webcomic initially known for its raunchy, dark comedy and its lighthearted parodies of religious tropes, garnered a much more negative reputation after the onset of the Sisterhood arc in 2011, which radically shifted the comic's focus into a story-driven one with heavy, radical feminist overtones. What made this so controversial was a combination of its misandrist attitudes towards men, the author's constant deflection of criticism as "dudebro misogyny," attempts at using female characters to speak for women despite being a middle-aged man (as well as insulting women who disagree with his views), and more recently the use of the Sisterhood as a mouthpiece for transphobia, depicting gender non-conforming individuals as liars and literal zombies. Consequently, the comic's fanbase has been hemorrhaging out over the years, the author's Patreon is seeing a steady decline in support, and Sinfest is now more well-known for its trans-exclusionary radical feminist overtones than for anything else about it.
now, some of this probably does need to be cut, the bits about misandry and the like are likely to attract MRAs. however, TV Tropes explicitly takes a pro-trans, anti-transphobia stance. i dont think it runs afoul of ROCEJ to condemn TERFs.
im trans myself, so i may be too close to this issue to view it objectively. id like some input on whether it's kosher to include or not.
Edited by razorrozar7openName's the Same
Names The Same seems to be massively overused to mean "any time two characters have the same name", even for very common names like Alice, Mike, or Steve. (All of which have examples on the Cross-Media subpages.)
I don't want to have to go through TRS for this, but two characters from different works sharing the same common first name is so blatantly People Sit on Chairs that I might have no choice.
openAlright bud
spydre seems to be a good egg, aside from this little bit I spotted in YMMV.Super Mario Odyssey, in which they added:
- Family-Unfriendly Aesop: Usurping one woman's mind to rape her is bad; usurping a hundred people's minds to save her is good.
This got axed by Master "Living Up To Their Name" Hero, but then spydre put an incredibly unsubtle remake of it back on the next day:
- Selective Condemnation: Bowser mind-raping Peach is the atrocity that drives the game. Mario doing the same to hundreds of other people is barely remarked upon.
I dunno know about this one, chief
openTRS Worthy?
I'm wondering if I should take Drink Order to the TRS (When some of the backlog clears up and I've had time to do a proper wick check and all that). The trope seems to be being horribly misused on-page; while the trope is "What drink a character orders says a lot about their personality", most examples are "Character likes to drink beer" or "In one episode, character ordered a glass of wine", with nothing being said about their character. In essence, it's decayed to Trademark Favorite Drink.
However, I'm unsure if this problem is something that needs TRS to resolve, or if the misuse just needs to be axed, so I'm looking for a second opinion.
openQuestionable Example
Found this example on Yubitsume
- A variant of this is s performed in Rurouni Kenshin by Houji as an apology to the other members of the Ten Swords for deceiving them in a previous mission (which had actually been Shishio's strategy, but he told them it was Houji's idea). This is subverted as It's actually a Secret Test of Character by Shishio to gauge Houji's devotion to their cause. In the manga, the form is somewhat different as instead of cutting off a finger, Houji tears off all ten of his fingernails. It's played more straight in the anime, where one fingernail's removed and then Houji stabs the finger it came from.
I may be mis-remembering but I swear that in the anime the member of the Juppongatana that does it actually just grabs his finger and breaks it.
openSaveAquaXIII edit warring on Characters/MCUTeamCoulson
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Characters.MCUSHIELDTeamCoulson
Save Aqua XIII created a new character folder for Enoch Coltrane. alliterator deleted the name "Coltrane", saying it had never been said in the show. SaveAquaXIII then added it back, saying it had been used in the show. i don't know who's right, but it doesn't matter if you're right; you still don't get to edit war over it.
openHandling Spoiler Tags
In regards to spoiler tags, I'm confused on how to properly do them. Sometimes they are done [[spoiler: like this with a space between the colon and the first word]], and other times they're done [[spoiler:like this without the space]]. I've been doing spoilers in the latter format almost the whole time I've been on the site, and the Handling Spoilers page leads me to believe that's also the right way to do it. However, I also see others putting the space. At one point for the character page for Friendly Foreign Exchange Student Spider-Man!, one troper put the spoiler tags with the space, so I removed them. The same troper added them back, which led me to believe that I'm probably doing something wrong here. I've also seen others add the space when it wasn't present on other pages, which further leads me to think I'm not doing spoilers correctly. I'm not sure though. Can someone help me out in understanding this in regards to spoiler tags?
Robonaught readded a speculatory example regarding Ripto's surviving his Disney Villain Death in Spyro the Dragon - Villains immediately after I deleted it due to speculation not being allowed on the site. I sent him a PM about not adding Speculation to main pages, but he ignored it and readded the example (albeit slightly reworded), thus starting an Edit War.
In addition, I looked through his edit history and found that he seems to have problems with Walls of Text (mainly here) and Natter. Might be worth calling him in for a chat.
Edited by N8han11