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open A concern on YMMV.Black Panther
Yesterday, Tropers.The Kaizerreich added an Unfortunate Implications entry that stated:
- Unfortunate Implications: Negative reviews no matter how mild got frequently blasted to oblivion because this is a "mostly black" movie and thus somehow a Sacred Cow by default, whether it has actual merit or not - which carries the implication that the movie cannot actually stand up to scrutiny and requires an enforced air of ultra-positive public opinion to be relevant. Which is precisely what the producers intended to prevent!
I deleted the entry for being complaining, as well as misuse of Unfortunate Implications. Kaizerreich then added this:
- Sacred Cow: Negative reviews no matter how mild got frequently blasted to oblivion because this is a "mostly black" movie and thus somehow a Sacred Cow by default, whether it has actual merit or not - which carries the rather unfortunate suggestion that the movie cannot actually stand up to scrutiny and requires an enforced air of ultra-positive public opinion to be relevant.
Afterwards, Tropers.Triumphant Magician reworded it to:
- Sacred Cow: Negative reviews no matter how mild got frequently blasted to oblivion because this is a "mostly black" movie and thus somehow a Sacred Cow by default, whether it has actual merit or not - which carries rather unfortunate suggestions: that the movie cannot actually stand up to scrutiny and requires an enforced air of ultra-positive public opinion to be relevant, that black people are too fragile to tolerate criticism, and that their feelings should take precedence over artistic quality.
So the whole affair strikes me as one of those attempts, not unlike what happened with Mad Max Fury Road and the recent Star Wars movies, to deflect the fact that there IS a semi-orgnaized hate campaign aimed at the movie just because of its progressive casting and message. It's one of those "Why do you think everyone who disagrees with you is racist/sexist/homophobic/a Nazi" things.
I kept the entry and removed the parts that unnecessarily brought Black people into the issue, but Kaizerreich undid my edit and readded the griping with no edit reason.
EDIT: Fixed my own copy/paste error.
Edited by NubianSatyress

I skimmed through the edit history
of The Kaizerreich since I found their name concerning. They haven't edited for almost three years but there are a couple of edits I find problematic. (Links to the specific edits in the history don't seem to work. Are they too old? Is this a bug?)
This got rewritten anyways, however obscure comparisons of the number of killings are a typical right wing talking point (Holodomor
is more comparable to the Great Famine in Ireland and it is completely beside the point).
In Acceptable Political Targets they added:
Further they added an example on Maggie Thather that in essence is also in the current version. Here's the original edit:
I agree that Thatcher is a good example for this trope however I feel the criticism is portrayed in a wrong way, cf. [1]
. While Thatcher is seen as an unpleasant person it's not due to "moral guarding".
In Acceptable Professional Targets they added:
And also
In Acceptable Ethnic Targets they edited:
This somewhat beside the point. They also added an example that in essence survived till today:
As a German I know none of those "popular Turks" who made it into "high military positions". Actually I don't know any high ranking military officer (who are still in office) at all. They are definitely not popular. However, there are popular politicians of Turkish descent. Also there are very few "Turks" in Germany but many people of Turkish descent, in the third generation or so. As for television, I'm not aware of any popular stereotypes. That's not to say there wouldn't be any but they should give examples.
In Black Panther (2018) they started an edit war for which they got suspended [2]
and I don't even know what to think about the example:
There are also three other ATT threads about edit war issues [3]
[4]
[5]
.
I'm not sure if I'm the only one who has issues with those edits but maybe others can help looking through the edit history. Of those examples above only the Thatcher and Turkish-German examples seem to have survived.
Edit: Fixed formatting
Edited by Sirena