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Shocking Swerve Western Animation

Okay, I've been arguing over these entries in the Tangled the Series YMMV page and I think I need to get something straight before I try arguing anymore because if I'm wrong, arguing is extremely pointless and I'm wasting everyone's time. Shocking Swerve is about twists, right? Let's say a character goes evil and there was evidence in previous episodes of their descent down a dark path would that mean when they ultimately betray their friends, would that still be a shocking swerve? I think I need a breakdown about what shocking swerve is and isn't because I'm not getting it.

Need help sorting tropes Western Animation

Wanted to add a trope page for a fanfic I really like. But I need help trying to list ALL the tropes found in it. Anybody want to help and up for a good read? Please. I know it’s not likely to list ALL of the tropes in the story, but I figure if more than one person reads it....well if two heads are better than one. Then the same is probably true for eyes/reading.

Ultimate Spider-Man LXG https://m.fanfiction.net/s/9668461/1/Ultimate-Spiderman-LXG

Ultimate Spider-Man Knights Of Noir https://m.fanfiction.net/s/11730979/1/Ultimate-Spiderman-Knights-of-Noir (the rewrite serving as a script for the “audiobook” with additional/alternate scenes and dialogue but basically the same story)

Enemy comforting enemy trope? Western Animation

What's the best trope for a villain/rival character comforting their rival briefly over something tragic that happens to them?

Edit War on The Dragon Prince Western Animation

There is a potential edit war brewing on The Dragon Prince YMMV page.

Antidragon has added these two points: Straw Man Has A Point:

• In Season 2 Episode 7, Soren fires a ballista at the dragon preforming fly-bys on a local village, and later accepts that the resulting damage was his own fault for provoking it. Yet the humans had no idea what the dragon's objectives or motivations were, and the dragon itself had made no attempt to communicate with them (Even if it couldn't speak, as an intelligent species it could have at least tried). Knowing nothing of the dragon's intent, Soren had good reason to fear that the town-destroying juggernaut could change it's mind at any moment.
  • Furthermore, said ballistas prove to be too inaccurate to hit the dragon; the town offered no threat to it whatsoever and nothing was preventing it from simply flying away. It's subsiqent attack seemed more a matter of spite than legitimate self defense, yet Soren still accepts the blame for the resulting damage.

• When Soren provokes the Dragon in S2 E7 by firing a ballista at it, said ballista proves to be no threat to the beast and nothing was preventing it from flying away. When it subsequently sets the town on fire, the show (and even Soren himself) treat the resulting havoc as his own fault, even though said dragon was apparently acting out of spite rather than self defense.

They were removed by Mr. Death and then Antidragon added them back.

Flame Bait Western Animation

How is the inclusion of certain words like Canon Sue, Parody Sue, Villain Sue, and Mary Sue to YMMV page able to cause Flame Bait?

Summary recaps? Western Animation

Andyroid is currently in the process of adding summaries to all the episodes on Recap.Steven Universe. Is this allowed? Because I don't think I've ever seen a Recap page do this.

I want to request a revert, but I wanted some insight before doing so.

Index issue Western Animation

Hello, I am having a problem with the indexes on the bottom the recap pages for the episodes that are part of the Christophsis arc in Star Wars: The Clone Wars. In the indexes at the bottom of the recap pages for "Cat and Mouse", "The Hidden Enemy", and the Pilot Movie, I kept seeing two identical links that led to the recap page for the Christophsis arc. I went into the page type and made it so that the Christophsis arc recap page does not index, but now there is a link in the indexes at the bottom of the recap pages that leads to the Christophsis arc recap page, but for some reason the page is presented with its alternate title whenever I open the page despite the fact that it should just be the custom title being presented. Is a mod able to fix this? Is there a solution?

Is there a trope page for female cashier type characters who hate their job Western Animation

I'm talking about characters like Enid from OK KO, Wendy from Gravity Falls, Gloria from Big City Greens, Xochi from Victor and Valentino, Frankie from Fosters Home, and Gwen from Camp Camp just to name a few. They are all wage workers who hate their job. Some of them have passions that are artsy. All of them hang out with small children.

Removed YMMV Western Animation

cherrycore1213 removed all examples but one from YMMV.King Star King back in 2017. Should they be restored?

Page deletion request Western Animation

I'd like to request a page deletion for Star Wars: The Clone Wars (Revival), since there's less than two tropes for the work.

Vandilism in Steven Universe Western Animation

The troper Daong 123 has been deleting pages in the Steven Universe character pages. Also like the last vandal who plagued the Steven Universe pages, they called a bunch of gems rapists. I'm wondering if there is a connection with the troper whose name I've forgotten but I am almost positive the account name was Burn Rape and Pilage. As I recall that vandal was a ban evader named Papayrus who also edited the Steven Universe pages. However, I've looked at some of their older edits so and noted that they don't look out of the ordinary. They are also claiming to be hacked. Here are the pages they vandalized and a link to their troper page. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Characters.StevenUniverseHomeworldGems https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki /article_history.php?article=Characters.Steven Universe Yellow Diamond https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Characters.StevenUniverseGemFusions https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Characters.StevenUniverseCrystalGems https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Characters.StevenUniversePinkDiamond https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Tropers/DAONG123

Jerry Smith is forever Evil? Western Animation

I have a question about the MEH: In Interdimensional Cable 2 in Rick and Morty, Jerry Smith, one of the main characters crosses it when he tried to weasel his way out of his penis and then took Pibbles hostage when it made him look bad. So my question is does this mean that Jerry is forever evil in future episodes that date pass this episode? Even if he has good moments?

Steven Universe fridge subpages Western Animation

Shouldn't the Steven Universe Horror and Steven Universe Brilliance subpages be at Steven Universe and Steven Universe respectively?

Requirements for Own Character Page Western Animation

This is technically a question that applies to all types of media, but the example I want to list is from Western Animation, so, there you go.

So, all over the place, there are certain character pages leading to trope pages exclusively about the tropes related to a single character. This is fine, since some characters end up gathering so many tropes to their name that editing them along with a dozen other characters could become problematic.

However, it seems to be a bit inconsistent which characters get the single page and who don't: In the Star vs the Forces of Evil character page, out of all the characters in there, Star, Moon, Eclipsa, and Meteora/Mrs. Heinous (AKA the Playing Card Quartet) seem to have enough tropes to their name to justify their own character pagae (especially Eclipsa)

But then you have something like Steven Universe, where all the major characters (The core Crystal Gems, the new Crystal Gems, every single Diamond, and even a pair of humans) have pages of their own.

So my question is, what's the requisite to make a character page for a single character? How many tropes do they need for it to be done?

Sorry for the wordy question.

YMMV deleted without discussion Western Animation

I've been adding example to The Loud House. In general I've been trying to keep things factual and correct but one of my funny examples was taken down apparently because the troper who deleted it was confused. Here's the example under the funny category that I added and was subsequently deleted.

• Leni ends up slamming her family members on the other side of the door twice and then forgetting they were there. First with Lincoln, then with their dad. This second time ends up knocking their dad unconscious and is very much NOT played for laughs.

I understand that the second part wasn't played for laughs but the first part was. The YMMV was deleted because the second part wasn't played for laughs in-universe. I want to readd it but is there a way to do it to avoid other tropers doing this? The wording does seem a bit awkward...

A report Western Animation

It appears that there is a new troper named Reynoldsj 33 who keeps making up characters that don’t exist and adding them into character pages (I.e. he added a completely made up character named Nute Sambor or something in the page for the Separatist military). I think that he is adding fan fic material.

New Troper here, with a bad case of How Do I Shot Web. Western Animation

Hello! Recently I have decided to submit a new trope in the TLP I lovingly titled as "Spider-Man Is Not Allowed To Punch", but I didn't see anything on both the TLP page and the article draft page that allows me to edit or make a draft for it (it's currently empty). All I saw at the beginning were blank slots for entering working title, laconic title, and draft description; and those few things are all the article draft page allows me to edit, but not the actual article. The TLP guidelines don't mention anything about it either.

Was there something I missed?

A request for the alteration of a standard display title Western Animation

May a moderator please help me with this by editing the Battle of Christophsis arc's standard display title via changing it to just Christophsis arc so that the alteration is visible on other pages that do not use custom titles (such as the Following and New Edits)? I would like for the standard title to be accurate to the websites and videos that present this arc with this title and consistent with another recap page that has a similar premise (Ryloth arc).

Edit war on The Dragon Prince Western Animation

There's an edit war on The Dragon Prince over the Bury Your Gays example. Voxkun has readded it twice.

Frozen 2 teaser Western Animation

A teaser for the new Frozen movie was released minutes ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSLe4HuKuK0

Was it acknowledged already here? If not, is it time to make a page for the new movie?

Fanfic Recommendation Western Animation

I wanted to add a story to the Loud House Fanfic Recs page in the General Fics folder. But whenever I added it, instead of the story's title all that appeared was this [1], with that being the only link to the story. What am I doing wrong?

Dragons: Race to the Edge Scene Western Animation

Would this image from Dragons: Race to the Edge count as a Separated By the Wall Scene, or a Window Love scene? Link Here: http://thetvshows.us/displayimage.php?pid=1553282&fullsize=1. Also, here is a You Tube Video Link to the scene from the episode. Link Here: https://youtu.be/KYSfAq5W1HI?t=45.

Thank You! :)