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Frozen 2 teaser Western Animation

A teaser for the new Frozen movie was released minutes ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSLe4HuKuK0

Was it acknowledged already here? If not, is it time to make a page for the new movie?

Fanfic Recommendation Western Animation

I wanted to add a story to the Loud House Fanfic Recs page in the General Fics folder. But whenever I added it, instead of the story's title all that appeared was this [1], with that being the only link to the story. What am I doing wrong?

Dragons: Race to the Edge Scene Western Animation

Would this image from Dragons: Race to the Edge count as a Separated By the Wall Scene, or a Window Love scene? Link Here: http://thetvshows.us/displayimage.php?pid=1553282&fullsize=1. Also, here is a You Tube Video Link to the scene from the episode. Link Here: https://youtu.be/KYSfAq5W1HI?t=45.

Thank You! :)

Duplicate Pages Western Animation

So I just found out that recently, someone went and made a page for The Mini Mighty Kids but there are a few problems with it.

1. The page already exists. Long before it was made, we already had it with its original title (The Miniavengers)

2. If we were to agree to keep either of the pages, then I'm thinking we'd have to change it from western animation to plain animation as this is a French cartoon originally from France, not the west.

So I don't know which page we should keep and which one we should cut, but we should probably migrate the tropes from one of the pages to the one that we should keep.

Splitting a character on character pages / Adventure Time characters question? Western Animation

I don't want to get into an Edit War, so I'll ask here before doing any major edits for the page Characters.Adventure Time Secondary

Currently, the Characters.James Bond The Character splits it into all the incarnations of the character, not just one James Bond and all the tropes.

Since the Earl of Lemongrab has had three incarnations, should he be split into Lemongrab I, Lemongrab II and Lemongrab III on the same page (Characters.Adventure Time Secondary).

Currently, the Lemongrab characters are split between Characters.Adventure Time Secondary and Characters.Adventure Time Minor but should there be separate folders for the different "universes" the characters inhabit, e.g. Adventure Time Cosmic Beings for Prismo and the Cosmic Owl etc. or characters from the Mini Series "Islands" and "Elements".

I know the Franchise.Marvel Cinematic Universe pages had to be split due to the Loads and Loads of Characters, should WesternAnimation.Adventure Time be this way or not?

After all, there's Characters.Adventure Time The Lich and his reincarnation, Sweet P on Characters.Adventure Time Secondary.

Should Simon

What's the general policy on new character folder whenever a character regenerates or is reborn (I know Series.Doctor Who has separate pages for all 13 doctors, but it's justified given that regeneration is part of Doctor Who's mythos anyway)

Please help me find an old cartoon Western Animation

Hi, I am looking for an old cartoon, I don't remember the name, it was about a boy who goes at night in his room and the to his space ship (kind of a racket) and travels throw galaxy on other planets and discovers new worlds, something he is taking his dog some gold dog (maybe a golden retriever). The series is very old, ca colors are faded and it may not contain conversations, just sound similar with Tom and Jerry on this part. Maybe someone else remembers it. Thank you

Balloon-Bursting Bird Western Animation

I heard woody woodpecker has been in this trope where he would burst the balloons of his enemies that used them. Can anyone name some specific episodes where I can see this? =3

90s or 00s cartoon Western Animation

It was an older show that had a lot of tiny ish I think characters, the only one I remember was this pink female one with pincer claws on her head I remember she got mad a lot but I could be mistaken. I think they were hero's too but idek

''Peanuts'' year Western Animation

The Cartoon Network Peanuts series aired in France in 2014 and then it aired in America in 2016. Strangely enough, the show doesn't have a page of its own. Should I create the page at WesternAnimation.Peanuts 2014 or WesternAnimation.Peanuts 2016?

Description of Ambiguous Gender for the Kirin in MLP:FIM Western Animation

Ok, I don't want to risk starting an edit war over this, the Ambiguous Gender entry for Kirin in https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/FriendshipIsMagicRaces currently reads:

Ambiguous Gender: The handful of voices and names known of them are feminine, they have the body types of female ponies, and most of them have the eyelashes of female ponies. But in Autumn Blaze's song where she mocks The Phantom of the Opera, she explicitly refers to the Phantom as "he" even as he is a Kirin with these same traits. Several of the Kirin display physical variances in their horns, including shape, coloration, and markings, but their designs are otherwise identical to each other, so it's unclear if their race has any physical identifiers of gender or not.

It was changed from:

Ambiguous Gender: The handful of voices and names known of them are feminine, and they have the longer eyelashes and body types of female ponies, yet in Autumn Blaze's song where she mocks The Phantom of the Opera, she explicitly refers to the Phantom as "he" even as he is a Kirin with these same traits. However, eagle-eyed viewers will notice that with a majority of the Kirin, their horns have patterns of chevrons that all point in one direction, while a few (presumably the males) have them pointing both upwards and downwards.

on grounds of speculation and being innacurate, citing the kirin playing the Phantom in the episode in question.

However, the observation was reached by fans on an actual design detail among the kirins seen.

There exist four chevron patterns seen in the episode.

Two chevron that point upward, a single chevron that points upwards, a single bifurcated chevron that points downwards and upwards (it connects on the back of the horn when seen from profile, the others don't) and finally two chevron, one that points downward, one that points upward.

The last pattern, is used only on the kirin that lack eyelashes.

Those are two consistent indicators of what might be gender in the species.

The example of the actors seen in the play all having eyelashes despite two playing male characters is, I believe, the weaker argument.

I believe the older entry was reasonably written given the circumstances.

EDIT: A similar change was made on the Ambiguous Gender entry for the episode.

From:

Ambiguous Gender: The Kirin all have female pony body types and many have feminine eyelashes, including both the Phantom and Raoul in Autumn Blaze's play. Although, if one looks closely at their horns, some Kirin (namely those that lack the female eyelashes) share a specific pattern of chevrons that point in opposite directions. This horn pattern and lack of eyelashes are most likely what define a male Kirin.

To:

Ambiguous Gender: The Kirin all have female pony body types and many have feminine eyelashes, including both the Phantom and Raoul in Autumn Blaze's play.

stating that the chevron and eyelashes combinations are all over the place.

I can assure they are not. When I first encountered the chevron explanation I dismissed it as I felt the lack of eyelashes was the most likely indicator because I too felt the patterns varied without rime nor reason.

But I went over the episode and screencaps in derpibooru, the two details are consistent.

Alphabetical use of Tropes Western Animation

In the Glitchtale Characters page, under the folder "Papyrus", the trope "Healing Hands" comes right after "The Cameo" and after "Healing Hands" comes "Demoted to Extra". Shouldn't "Demoted to Extra" come before "Healing Hands"? The reason I ask this is because I just got unsuspended from editing and I don't want to make another mistake, force others to do more work than necessary, and get re-suspended.

If someone would take the time to answer my question politely, I would really appreciate it. Thank you in advance.

Ballon bursting Bird tropes Western Animation

Howdy,

Thanks to those who replied to my last question. My current question is are their any videos I can locate easily for more balloon bursting bird tropes?

Angelo Rules Western Animation

How can I make the Angelo Rules TV tropes page?

Dragons: Race to the Edge Scene Western Animation

Would this image from Dragons: Race to the Edge count as a Separated By the Wall, or a Window Love scene? If yes, let me know. Link Here: http://thetvshows.us/displayimage.php?pid=1553282&fullsize=1. Also, here is a You Tube Video Link to the scene from the episode. Link Here: https://youtu.be/KYSfAq5W1HI?t=45.

Thank You! :)

Strange parasite cartoonnetwork episode Western Animation

Maybe someone here can help me find one short that I have been looking for like 18 years ago, XD I think that it was one of those pilot episodes that cartoonnetwork was putting to see wich ones had success and then make the shows, I remember that it was in a spaceship, something was happening with the protagonist while hes dumb green or blue assistant with a big nose saw a new beverage that was in a spending machine, the captain (or protagonist) then said to him not to touch anything, I think that they was inspectioning said spaceship I don`t know, then the captain started to drive the ship, the assistant taking advantage that the captain was distracted, he drank the beverage and a after a while he started to feel bad, then he was sicker and sicker, (I think his stomac was really hurting him), then he start swelling and swelling until he was like dead, but his body still was having like spasms... He in that moment was putrified REALLY swollen until his stomach was torn, and from it came out some sort of parasite that was pretty happy that he could be alive thanks to the assistant of the captain, and him became the new assistant of the captain and they continued like NOTHING, IT WAS PRETTY DISTURBING I had like 10 years old i think, It was pretty traumatizing... Well if someone remembers It and can tell me the name of the episode or something just to know that I am not crazy XDD Because I really tried to find it but it`s IMPOSIBLE XDDD I don`t know I think it was like the pilot episode of Atomic Betty but i CAN`T FIND ANYTHING!

Spoilers for How To Train Your Dragon Western Animation

Someone is putting up spoilers for How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World, even though its U.S. release is still more than a month away. What's the policy on that?

Sequel to Reboot Changes? Western Animation

I don't know how else to phrase this precisely, but since Xiaolin Chronicles has been established as a standalone reboot / alternate continuity rather than a full on sequel to Xiaolin Showdown, it makes sense to go back and tweak the page so it reflects that? Since a lot of tropes read as though it's sequel and would be redundant now, like the Series Continuity Error and Broad Strokes.

Also, since the Xiaolin Showdown has official promotional art on its page, would it make sense to swap out the screencap on Xiaolin Chronicles' page and replace it with similar art? Examples here◊ and here◊.

Title edit for The Clone Wars page Western Animation

I would like to ask if there's a way to edit the page title here to "Star Wars: The Clone Wars / Season One To Season Six" and the page title here to "Star Wars: The Clone Wars (Revival)".

YoungJustice/RevivalSeries Western Animation

There's a recently created page for the new Young Justice cartoon... However, it's in the wrong namespace, using "Young Justice" instead of "Western Animation": YoungJustice.Revival Series

Even stranger, the correct page, Young Justice Outsiders 2019, is used as a redirect.

Edit war in YMMV/StevenUniverseS5E26TogetherAlone Western Animation

On December 31st, Jayalaw added this Harsher in Hindsight example to YMMV.Steven Universe S 5 E 26 Together Alone:

• Stevonnie dreaming of Connie's mother as Yellow Diamond manhandling Pink becomes this in "Together Alone". When Stevonnie appears, Yellow forcibly grabs Stevonnie and locks them in a room. It's like the nightmare has come to life.

I deleted it, on the grounds that this wasn't just a dream, but Stevonnie reliving Pink's memories, thus it wasn't harsher than it already was as we've seen Yellow manhandle Pink before.

Jay added it back, slightly edited, with this reason:

They also added back a "Holy Shit!" Quotient example I deleted with no comment.

Page history.

Adaptation changes vehicle color Western Animation

So there's this sequel/adaptation of Speed Racer called The New Adventures of Speed Racer. The Mach 5, which is traditionally a white car, is now mostly blue. What trope is this? Is it Adaptation Dye-Job? Is there another trope that fits better?

A slight alteration to the character pages of Star Wars Western Animation

Hello, I need assistance with editing a lot of character pages. May a large amount of people please go onto some of the character pages of Star Wars and change “appears in” to “appearances” and remove any non context tropes? I cannot do it alone and I need a lot of help. Please assist me.

Also, does Palpatine count as Karma Houdini Warranty?

Speculative troping? Western Animation

Would this example on the trivia page for We Bare Bears be considered Speculative Troping?

• Unintentional Period Piece: It's likely that the show may experience this in about a decade's time, with its frequent references to Internet culture (such as hashtags, memes, online dating and viral videos), smartphones, social media, and life in the mid-2010s in general.
  • However, it's likely that it will be a rather positive example of this, as unlike other cartoons that use current (or, due to Animation Lead Time, dead) memes and internet trends as jokes in an attempt to be relevant, We Bare Bears is modern and screams "mid-2010s", but is also timeless in that it does not reference specific memes or trends that quickly become dated, instead working more like a demonstration to how life was in the mid-2010s.

From my understanding, the Unintentional Period Piece trope has not actually happened yet. Is it okay to predict what will happen in the future, or is that Speculative Troping?

How to I Get Attention? Western Animation

If I made a post on a forum or something and I want people to know, how would I do that?

Disney shorts namespace Western Animation

Looking at the list of Disney shorts on Classic Disney Shorts, there seems to be no consistency as to whether shorts are in the Disney/ or WesternAnimation/ namespace.