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openFunnyAneurysmMoment parameters
Do I understand correctly that a "Funny Aneurysm" Moment is a funny moment in a work made "cringeworthy" or otherwise un-funny by events or additional works occurring after the release (or at least after production) of the work in question?
There are currently a number of examples on Avengers: Infinity War that reference funny moments early in the film made sadder by later events in the film itself. Others are about pre-release speculation or comparisons to other work becoming sadder in light of the actual work content. My understanding is that these would be misuse of the trope, but I would like confirmation of that before I remove them.
openAny mention that TropeOverdosed Franchises's wick counts are aggregate of its works' wick counts?
For Trope Overdosed Franchises, are the wick counts used, the aggregate of all its works? Or just the related page?
Edit: Apparently so, but I can't find any mention of such in the source
, not even in the commented-out sections. So, I'll add it in, unless it actually is made redundant, somewhere?
Literature.Tortall Universe was on Trope Kilowicked, but then I pulled it off, as it had only 478
wicks to the page itself.
But should I have been totaling that, and its components, which may pass the 1500 minimum for being Trope Overdosed?
Its Components
openBlatant self-plug alert
enyeknot
seems to have joined here just to plaster links to their site for game guides everywhere.
resolved SelfDemonstrating Namespace
On Wick Namespace Migration, it says that Self-Demonstrating/ is not a namespace that should be used for wicks. However for Deadpool, the Comic Book/ namespace, which is the original medium, is currently a redirect to the Self-Demonstrating page. Should anything be done with this?
openLiterature/Molesworth Literature
molesworth... The entire page reads like a Self-Demonstrating article. Said self demonstrating includes a ton a grammar and spelling errors. The Fanfic Recs and Trivia pages have the same problem.
openAwesome/KanyeWest Music
I had to clean up the examples involving Kanye’s political views, but other tropers keep adding it back. I’ll admit I added some myself, but since it’s causing edit warring, I deleted the examples altogether. Should there be a mod warning to prevent any more politics-related examples from betting added back.
Edited by MsCC93openNot kosher entry. Film
Found this on the Solo YMMV page by Troper Pren
:
- Fandom Berserk Button: Even with the film being an undeniable Box-Office Bomb, unlike when The Last Jedi was hit with the claim against all sanity, it's still a sore point when the alt-right conspirators trying to destroy the franchise claim this as their doing. In particular, it's often rebutted with how the only film in the revived franchise to date to lose money is also the only one with a white male lead.
This is....yeah no, this needs to go. No valid claims about "alt-right conspirators", and the troper seems to be shoehorning a political Take That! against people who seem to disagree about the film not making a lot of money. Also, white male lead isn't the issue, if anything its that the movie exists at all that some dislike.
Edit: This troper has been going around and making some very political laced claims across several other pages it seems. For example they added this on One Day at a Time (2017).
- Counterpart Comparison: One brought up by Netflix itself, as after the Roseanne revival was cancelled due to Roseanne Barr's racist Tweets, Netflix made their own Tweet about how they also currently have a reboot of a classic sitcom about a working class family that deals with a bunch of political issues, twisting the knife by pointing out how theirs is still going.
Might need to talk to them about them pushing political based opinions in areas that don't seem to be there. Trying to find a good way to word it so apologies.
Edited by keyblade333openNew Acceptable Target confusion (Where should this planned example go?)
I've been reading through the Acceptable Targets pages, which includes just about everyone under the sun aside from those who are obviously Unacceptable Targets. But, unless I overlooked it, I feel that at least one example is missing: people who have had cosmetic surgeries. Even though cosmetic surgery is more common nowadays than it used to be, people who choose to undergo them are often considered self-absorbed narcissists who are plastic and inferior to naturally beautiful—or even non-beautiful people, regardless of quantity or quality. So I was going to add it but I'm not sure which page I should write it on "Ethnic Targets" (since it is about physical appearances and other inborn qualites) or "Lifestyle Targets" (which is about lifestyle choices and burdens). Any suggestions?
openShould Public-Domain Character moved to Useful Note?
There're two reasons I think it will be better as a useful note.
- I don't think it's trope. While they can appear in many works, being in public domain in't story telling tool by itself.
- More important, the page is quite a mess right now. We have both "The characters in this work are in public domain" and "This work use public domain characters" throw together in examples list.
I think that move it to Useful Note article and stick to listing public domain characters will be more useful for us.
Edited by KuruniopenDescription deletion
chizo just deleted a large chunk from the description of Paris Is Burning without a reason, and I can’t work out any good reason to just delete it:
It’s also the only edit they’ve made to the page, most of their edits being to anime or useful notes about China.
Edited by lakingsifopenNo Title
Phantom Dusclops 92 appears to have created a Quote page and a YMMV page troping himself, as well as this JustForFun page.
Edited by AnddrixopenTroper/Yu-Gi-Oh-related question Anime
I've seen a yuugame2 around recently. There used to be a yuugame account that made the same sorts of edits they do—long-winded manga-based Yu-Gi-Oh entries with occasional downplaying or putting down the anime, IE
"Enemy Mine: In the manga, after his initial Monster World RPG with them, he occasionally and openly helps the main group, particularly during Duelist Kingdom and Dungeon Dice Monsters, and a couple of times he shows up then willingly gives Ryo back control of his body. After the Monster World arc, he decided that keeping Yugi alive until the Shadow RPG is more beneficial to his plans agenda than outright opposing him as he did in the original RPG. The only reason he openly helps the group is because their adversaries are getting in the way of his own plans, such as trying to kill Yugi and take the Millennium puzzle, and it's also a way to gain Yugi's trust and then easily stab him in the back afterward. He rarely has shades of this in the anime, where he's permanently in-control and impersonating Ryo, and the gang have no idea that the spirit of the Millennium Ring is controlling him."
Some of this entry also isn't true, as Ryo was in control of himself at times in the anime, albeit to a lesser extent, and he was being manipulated in the manga often as well. From the '2' in the account name I was wondering if anything had happened to the original yuugame account, too. The first yuugame went up to January 2.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/el.php?findfor=yuugame
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/el.php?findfor=yuugame2
openWeird Entry in Replacement Goldfish of Anime - Do not Know what to do with it
So I was looking in Replacement Goldfish Anime page, and look at what I found:
There are two Replacement Goldfish relationships that complement and parallel each other. The orphaned Elric brothers take on their alchemy teacher Izumi as a mother figure, while Izumi herself had a stillborn child and now accepts the Elrics as surrogate children. Considering the result is pretty consistently a pus-oozing, organ pile, sin against God, you'd think people would learn eventually.
I can't tell if this is something understandable in context or just vandalism. Could someone please clarify this to me, so that I can proceed on?
openTroper with Zero Context Example violations
I sent a ZCE Notifier to naal2
, who uncommented an Abhorrent Admirer Zero Context Example on Characters.Hercules. In response, they sent a pretty hostile PM back, saying that it wasn't a ZCE and that I should fix it myself. I answered that the entry should describe the character's behaviour that makes them the trope. They again sent a condescending PM in response to that.
Seeing they are reacting uncooperatively to Notifiers, maybe a mod could look into this.
They have a habit of this, as they also recently uncommented a ZCE on Characters.Sailor Moon Shadow Galactica, and made a ZCE entry on Dragon Ball Z Characters
.
openThinking of removing the spoiler part from an entry on "Atrocious Alias"
In an issue of X-Factor the heroes are confronted by a villain calling himself Number One Fan (with spinning blades as his main weapons) leading one member of X-Factor to comment that "We must be just about tapped out of silly names to call ourselves". When Kitty Pryde heard of the name "Negasonic Teenage Warhead," her reaction was similar: "Wow, we really have run out of names." (Spoiler: Negasonic Teenage Warhead had been dead since the Genoshan massacre. Before her death, she planned to name herself after the song. (Furthermore, her death caused Emma Frost a mental breakdown. Suddenly, not so funny...)
I am considering removing the spoiler, because it feels rather forced. Do you think I should proceed?
openHandling Spoilers re: Character Page Folder Titles
Administrivia.Handling Spoilers states:
First of all, I see this rule violated fairly often with "spoiler character" folders all over the place, but this isn't the place to discuss that. The question lies in what to do with those folders once we find them.
In a recent edit to Characters.All New Wolverine, I simply replaced the "spoiler character" folder name with a vague description and added a "(SPOILERS)" warning. It's not the best way to handle this and I hate putting in spoiler warnings where people should already expect to be spoiled, but it avoids being a Self-Fulfilling Spoiler, it lets readers who haven't reached that point avoid the spoiler, and it doesn't make it hard for people who are spoiled to guess where that character's entry is.
Is my approach right?
openLeaked content policy?
There have been more than a few things lately that have broken their street dates which has had me wondering if we have a policy for leaked content and if we should if we don't. I myself don't have a specific viewpoint but the various leaks lately have made me wonder if it should be addressed.
openBroader interpretation of Rescued from the Underworld?
So early on in Chrysalis Visits The Hague, Šarić organizes an expedition into the Everfree Forest to look for ponies who have gone missing in the recent-ish past, and they find a rather large (as in 350 trapped ponies) Changeling (do you capitalize it? I don't watch FiM) hive in a cave. I know that (strictly speaking) it's not a Rescued from the Underworld scenario (they don't literally go to the underworld), but it has a lot of elements thereof: there's a harrowing journey into a confined, dark place where several hundred ponies are trapped by a character who's a demon archetype, and there's a Cerberus equivalent (though they're both pretty messed up — strictly speaking, none of the ponies are dead until after they get rescued, and the Cerberus equivalent is a malnourished, brainwashed pegasus with a single booby trap).
Does this count as Playing with a Trope, maybe downplayed or subverted? Or am I playing Everyone Is Jesus in Purgatory games with myself?
Thanks.
Edited by XndrKopenExcessive Spoiler Tags in GE - Good Ending Anime
Earlier today, I Wiki Walked my way into GE - Good Ending and, to be blunt,the page was a mess. I've done what I can to deal with the worst of it (links to manga sites, multiple tropes listed together, example indentation, ZCE's... oh man the ZCE's...) but there's one issue I'm not sure how to handle: Spoiler tagging.
The spoiler tagging on the page and its subpages strikes me as very excessive. Several Wall of White entries for a start. A few spoilered trope names though I dealt with those. The thing is I don't know the series well enough to differentiate what is and is not a spoiler so I'm not sure what to uncover to keep things looking both good and correct.
I was wondering if anyone had some advice (or, if there's a forum thread for this kind of thing, point me in the right direction). I did look for a forum thread for GE itself, but had no luck.
Edited by sgamer82

Just wondering,does the trope apply if the character is not explicitly named by any of the characters.but their image and the presence is there?
The example I was thinking of adding was White Diamond from Steven Universe since they've never been named in the show itself but their image has shown up in the show.
Edited by Ultimatum