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openRemember 103pmaL?
This user got bounced from TV Tropes back in 2013 for adding false information. His edits can be found here
, but, strangely, the ones below (albeit since edited/corrected by others) are still lingering on this site.
(This is gonna be a long one, so...)
- Many live-action shows on Nickelodeon do this - a lot. Below are a few examples...
- The Amanda Show's theme song was essentially the Wizard's Peak theme from Spyro The Dragon With Lyrics.
- Drake & Josh used "I Found a Way" by Drake Bell.
- Unfabulous used "Unfabulous" by Jill Sobule.
- Zoey 101 used "Follow Me" by Jamie Lynn Spears.
- iCarly uses "Leave It All To Me" by Miranda Cosgrove and Drake Bell.
- Victorious uses "Make It Shine" by Victoria Justice.
- Sam & Cat uses "Just Fine" by Backhouse Mike.
- Crossover: Drake & Josh had a crossover with Zoey 101 and Unfabulous in which a hurricane strikes the shows' respective towns - San Diego, Malibu and Santa Barbara. The three-part special was originally scheduled to air in May 2006, but due to the massive tornado outbreak happening at that time, it ultimately didn't air until October of that year.
- "Do It Yourself" Theme Tune: Starting with the episode "iWill Date Freddie", Miranda, aka Carly, sings the theme tune.
- Replaced the Theme Tune: Avril Lavigne and Drake Bell sang the theme song, titled "Leave It All To Me" — that was until the episode "iRock with Drake Parker" in which Carly sang Avril's vocals at the end of the episode. Then, a version of "Leave It All To Me" by Miranda Cosgrove and Drake Bell became the top-downloaded song on iTunes for the week, and coincidentally, the Avril Lavigne version was dropped starting with "iWill Date Freddie". Promptly, this ended Nickelodeon's aversion of Disney Channel's tradition of Do It Yourself Theme Tunes.
Sam & Cat is the first Nick show to use an actual song as its theme song since 2007.
Until 2007, Nickelodeon used a lot of hit songs for its sitcoms, such as Simple Plan's "I Found a Way", (Drake & Josh), Nerf Herder's "Girl Next Door" (Unfabulous), JoJo's "Follow Me" (Zoey 101), and Green Day's "American Idiot" (Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide).- That changed when the producers of iCarly dumped Avril Lavigne from the opening titles in favor of Miranda Cosgrove, and now Nick follows the lead of Disney Channel in using DIY theme tunes.
- Hopefully for fans, this may be the last time they might hear an actual song in the opening of a Nick sitcom.
- Since 2007 note (and even before that), Nickelodeon does this a lot too. Miranda Cosgrove sings the theme song to iCarly (starting with "iWill Date Freddie"), Victoria Justice sings the theme for Victorious, Keke Palmer sings the theme for True Jackson, VP, Big Time Rush sings the theme for... Big Time Rush, Brec Bassinger sings the theme for Bella and the Bulldogs, and Kel Mitchell sings the theme to Game Shakers. Older Nickelodeon series include the entire cast performing the theme to Eureeka's Castle.
- Only one Nick series averts this: Sam & Cat, whose theme song used is a Real Song Theme Tune: "Just Fine" by Backhouse Mike.
- Season two of My Babysitter's a Vampire has Vanessa Morgan singing the theme song, "Girl Next Door" (which was sung by Nerf Herder in season one, and also used for the Nickelodeon show Unfabulous)
- Real Song Theme Tune: Jamie Lynn sings the theme song, titled "Follow Me".
openJerks Are Worse Than Villains- Order Of The Stick
Found this massive rambly example on Jerks Are Worse Than Villains and I'm, uh...not sure what to do with it.
- Author Rich Berlew deconstructs this trope more than a few times in The Order of the Stick. The main example is that with Xykon, the series' Big Bad. While he has plenty of humorous line and charismatic (appropriately enough, he's an epic-level Sorcerer and thus, would have high Charisma), the author works to ensure that he never becomes a Draco in Leather Pants or Laughably Evil. For Xykon, it's the fact that at his core, he's just an older and undead version of that sort of creepy kid who always derived sadistic pleasure from ripping wings off of flies or frying ants with a magnifying glass. He just now applies the same to a much broader group because of his power, relishes in being evil and has no standards in it (outside of engaging in a physical relationship with a living being, though that's because he's not a "digusting biophiliac" and thus more a matter of "grossness" than moral quandry). He discusses this in Start of Darkness, which served as his and Redcloak's backstories:
Rich Burlew: Writing a story centered around your main antagonist is sort of difficult, because you risk "devillainifying" them. Yes, I just made that word up. What I mean though, is that once an audience has read all about a character's life, with all of their personal struggles and trials and tribulations and such, it's more difficult to see the character as the Big Bad. My challenge here was to tell the story of Xykon's life without making Xykon even slightly sympathetic. I mean, he's wholly and unapologetically Evil, but more to the point, he's kind of a dick.
- Miko Miyazaki plays with this, as part of an experiment with Berlew on whether he could make a Lawful Good paladin an antagonist to the group. He does so by her being a Well-Intentioned Extremist, who's extensive devotion has led her to becoming isolated from most of everyone (her only friend is her steed Windtriker) which just leads her to focus only on her mission. She dies a fallen Paladin who's inteferrence was a large blow to the good guys and the founding spirit of her order tells her that she did not earn her redemption, but her attempt at something means she might reunite with Windstriker. She manages to have some touching last words before dying.
- General Tarkin meanwhile was made to be her Foil. He is shown to be a Crazy-Prepared Genre Savvy Lawful Evil individual who presents himself as a Noble Demon and shares many of the endearing similarties as his son, Elan does. However, he is still a villan and it becomes clear that he's a very selfish and self-centered individual who's morality runs more on using tropes in a traditional sense. He has trouble accepting he isn't in charge. He shows little to no remorse when he kills his other son in Nale, who he raised to be villainous, though he also notes he did it to avenge his best friend Malack and Nale's own pride did him in there because he had to be dumb enough to brag about it. Then he goes off the deep end and shows how ruthless he is to force Elan into what he thinks the proper roles should be and he's disregarded as such an Arc Villain rather than the Big Bad he thinks he is. While Miko is introduced disdainfully yet there is tragedy in her parting, Tarkin is introduced affably and with good reputation, but by the end, his igoble defeat where he is left impotent is a large Catharsis Factor.
- Tsukiko may be this too. Appearing first in March 2007, she is a Parody Sue with plenty of Common Mary Sue Traits: Heterochromatic eyes, great beauty, skimpy clothing, unusually skilled for her young age, Japanese name meaning "moon child", believing she was oppressed (mainly because of her necrophilia). Given how she came out when Twilight was at its peak (just before the films though when the books were being completed), the implications are there. She shows advancements toward Xykon, little respect toward Redcloak (though given how she was initially decent with him and he brushed her off when she notified she was employed before leaving her to be killed by his chlorine elemental, not surprising in retrospect) and no one misses her when she's gone, except the Monster in the Darkness, who laments that all she wanted was someone to care for her and the fact no one did added to the tragedy. Berlew notes her creation of undead who will do what she wants and say what she wants to hear is a way to stay in her own litle world anod have to not deal with others. This was the result of her being hurt by a lot of people in the past.
Indentation issue aside, it bills itself as a "deconstruction", but this is YMMV.
Most of this seems to be added by DVB.
Edited by WarJay77openTime Paradox Ghostwriter
I have, on occasion, tried to add tropes to Time Paradox Ghostwriter that were a bit more critical of the series. Most of my edits have been undone by Fishysaur for various reasons. Some of the reasons made sense, I am admittedly not that great of a troper. Others kind of sound like he's Willfully Blind to the series' faults. To avoid things escalating into a full-on edit war, I have not confronted him (outside of a discussion thread from months ago), and have not reversed any of his edits.
- I added Mis-blamed, mentioning the popular claim that the "plagiarism controversy" was the sole reason it got cancelled despite there being other things about it that could have contributed to its failure, citing a video by Replay Value that breaks it down. fishysaur removed it because it was "just 'fans are wrong for liking it'", which wasn't what I wrote at all.
- EDIT: This was misuse, my mistake. I also forgot bringing it up before. Like I said, not a great troper.
- Under They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot, I added how the series didn't even attempt to go further into the future Jump issues, specifically citing how the Author Comments could have played a role. fishysaur removed it because it was "pretending to do things a Cut Short series couldn't have done", but there's no actual reason why the series couldn't at least broach the subject earlier.
- I added Broken Aesop (first on the YMMV page itself, which was my mistake, and then on the trope page), citing how Teppei's message for Aino (it's impossible to create a manga the whole world can enjoy) at the end might have come off as hollow due to White Knight never being criticized in-universe. fishysaur removed it in both places, the first time expressing confusion over how I got that Aesop, and the second time denying that the Aesop was in the story at all. (The fact that he knew to look for it on the trope page indicates that he might be stalking my edits.)
Apologies for the long post. I acknowledge that it could very well be me who's in the wrong.
Edited by MaximumBurninationopenThe thin line between webcomic and web-manga
This is an issue that has been raised several times over many years and involved works that I edited heavily (for example, Daily Lives of High School Boys and Kotoura-san), that is, how to handle manga that started online.
I know we have a consensus that an online preview, by itself, does not change the work's namespace, which is why the two works named above are still in the Manga/ namespace, because from day one they are intended to be published on paper, but released online-first.
What I am confused are works like I Can't Understand What My Husband Is Saying and I Think Our Son Is Gay. They were originally serialized on Pixiv (and in the latter case, Twitter as well). However, they are collected and published on paper eventually. Should they be Manga-namespaced, or they should—following the precedent of Hetalia: Axis Powers—be put into Webcomic/ ? Or even in Web Original/ like Getsuyoubi No Tawawa?
A third case is even more complicated. Wasteful Days of High School Girls was originally published as webcomic (on Nico Nico Douga), but eventually no longer published that way; most of the series is published in anthologies like traditional manga. How should it be namespaced?
Edited by SamCurtopenI think I'm edit warring by accident.
So earlier today I was going through The Devil Wears Prada when I saw this entry:
- Vanilla Protagonist: Andy is an alright protagonist, having her funny and likable moments, but it's widely agreed that Miranda is far more interesting and entertaining, completely stealing the show from her. It's telling that even though some believed her role was a supporting one, one, Meryl Streep was nominated for Best Actress instead of the true lead Anne Hathaway.
I remember reading that this trope has to be intentional, and the entry itself admits that she is still quite likable and has some funny moments. So I removed it here
, but then I recently saw that it was originally a zero context entry I hid here
. Which I forgot I hid. Now the entry was originally added by RiceRomp here
, and they are the one who unhid and expanded it here
. I message them about it, and meant to before I removed it to explain how the trope needs to be intentional, but forgot to before hand. And this was before I remembered that I originally hid it.
So I think I am edit warring by mistake. Did I? If I am I fully take responsibility, and accept the consequence.
Edited by BullmanopenDesignated Hero and Villain in Wonder Woman 1984 Film
The YMMV page of Wonder Woman 1984 places both Wonder Woman and the Cheetah as Designated Hero and Villain, respectively, under the following arguments:
- Designated Hero: At its worst, the film makes Steve Trevor out to be more of a heroic figure than Diana herself, particularly where it comes to Steve's situation. From using the body of the "Handsome Man" for sexual activity without any ability to consent (which is sexual assault and/or rape) to her reluctance to ever let this nameless man have his own life back instead of keeping Steve possessing him, she is rather selfish overall, with it being Steve insisting on her going to save the world from catastrophe. Much like the prior film chronologically, she only allows someone or something she truly desires to leave when the object of desire itself says so while telling of her heroism, showing that if she actually has a possible penalty to her actions personally on an emotional level, she would more likely not suffer said consequences at the expense of the world unless forced to.
- Designated Villain: Barbara's wish to be like Diana is completely understandable given her circumstances. She's overlooked by almost everyone at work despite her positive qualities such as her sweetness and her knowledge. She had to rely on Diana to save her from a rapist, with the only lesson said rapist learned from the encounter was that Barbara was powerless on her own. Steve then tells Barbara and Diana that anyone who made a wish on the stone must renounce it regardless of their reasons for making the wish. Diana agrees with Barbara that they just can't do that; they are both reluctant to renounce their wishes. It doesn't help that Barbara's wish is corrupting her mind, while Diana's own wish is for reasons that seem frivolous in the big picture (see Designated Hero). Adding to all of this is that Barbara's less-sympathetic moments only ever kicked in during moments when selfishness would be a natural reaction. For what it's worth, Diana never sees Barbara as a villain and keeps trying to reason with her; Barbara momentarily stops attacking Diana on seeing the latter renounced her wish.
Okay, I have to ask, are these arguments valid? I did watch the movie, personally I believe these arguments to be flawed. The movie goes out of its way to make Wonder Woman realize it's selfish of her to keep her wish, especially because of the price she has to pay. As for Cheetah, she she never visibly renounces her wish even after seeing the consequences the collective wishes of humanity are having on the entire world.
I know that YMMV pages are meant to be opinionated, but it looks like there are people who using this particular YMMV page to voice their grievances with this movie and I would like to remind everyone that TV Tropes and the Internet are not your personal echo chambers you can use to say whatever you want and not expect any consequences.
So, what do you think?
Edited by MasterHeroopenEdit war and poor grammar
This
page is undergoing an edit war between shuniya and Kazukowitha K over the House Husband trope. Kazuko keeps re-adding it, and shuniya keeps deleting it.
Now, this in and of itself I'm sending a notifier to shuniya about, but I'm worried about Kazuko especially because of their poor grammar and punctuation. They also improperly capitalize tropes (leading to red links or no links at all) and pothole trope names. Example:
- ......And That Little Girl Was Me: When Victor tells something about his past about little girl in his past to heroine in chapter 10 about the kidnapping incident, he remembers about her saving his life only to be taking away shortly afterwards. The heroine did not know she was the same girl who protected him but Victor got a gut feeling after she remembering a pathway out of the building. After the heroine protected him again as adults, he finally found the same girl, whom he was looking for the past years.
So I'm unsure of how to approach a Troper who is edit-warring, potholing, and has bad grammar and punctuation issues.
EDIT: Editing to add that after messaging shuniya, who has apologized for their part in the edit war, they've stated that Kazuko has ignored their PM's regarding the matter as well.
Edited by iamconstantineopenDisputing recent deletion (Invincible 2021: Spoilers) Western Animation
I had recently added the following example to the YMMV page of Invincible (2021):
- What An Idiot: Despite being shown to be a very competent team of heroes, several members of the Guardians of the Globe grab the Idiot Ball hard during their fight with Omni-Man.
- [[spoiler: The first thing Red Rush does when the fight starts is shove Immortal out of the way of Omni-Man’s sneak attack, saving Immortal’s life. Then when Omni-Man continues to attack, Red Rush counters Omni-Man’s speed by moving his teammates out of the way at the last second, frustrating Omni-Man.
- [[spoiler: Darkwing functions as the team’s Batman Expy, using stealth, gadgets, skill and intelligence to take out his opponents. He’s also just seen Omni-Man murder Red Rush.
These additions were deleted with the following justification:
My Little Xero: Simply doesn't fit, as we barely know anything about the character before their deaths, claiming that they're holding the Idiot Ball is simply inaccurate as we need to know their typical behavior to call it as such, in addition as we see when the Guardians fight the Mauler Twins, the tactics used the by the characters to fight Omni-Man are pretty much the same so this
Naturally, I disagree. For one thing, the part of editing reason is inaccurate, as the tactics used by the mentioned characters in a previous fight are different from the ones they used vs Omni-Man. Against the Mauler Twins (who are much weaker than Omni-Man), Darkwing actually maintained distance, uses his weapons effectively and did not try to drop kick either of them. Likewise, Red Rush only engages the Mauler Twins (who are both much slower than Omni-Man) in melee when Green Ghost immobilizes them. So in both instances, the heroes tactics were different in their fight with Omni-Man than they were with the Mauler Twins.
Beyond them simply not being as effective as before, the tactics in both cases are suicidally stupid. Literally so since it gets them both killed (along with other members of their team), and I feel What an Idiot was made for moments of that kind of stupidity, regardless of how little we might know about the characters in general.
Furthermore, a lack of knowledge of a character does not invalidate the use of What An Idiot listings. Taken directly from the What An Idiot page:
"Because most viewers have basic common sense, one would usually expect the same from characters on TV shows. Any negative deviation from such usually prompts a Face Palm and the comment "What an idiot!" or similar, hence the entry name."
The page also mentions that some characters are supposed to be idiots, but goes on to say how that does not invalidate including them in What An Idiot entries. It merely asks that you summarize such moments rather than list them all.
If it's specifically the inclusion of the Idiot Ball trope that makes this inaccurate, I can remove it. I have ZERO intentions of getting into any kind of an editing war, so I'd like other opinions on the matter, to make sure I'm not in the wrong or anything before I take any additional steps.
Edited by Ares101openAccentuating the Negative
I feel like Website.Tumblr has an overly negative feel to it. Most of the tropes seem to talk about how banning adult comment resulted in tons of other problems. It feels like said problems are the focus of the trope page itself.
(Sorry if this isn’t making sense, I’m sleep-deprived.)
openCan this be reviewed, please?
So flblbl has just made a very big edit to the Transgender Useful Notes page here
. I wanted to ask if other Tropers could review it and see if it's all good—I know this topic has been under a lot of discussion on the wiki as of late.
I'm also a bit wary because the edit reason contains "did delete a bunch of stuff that was just weird cis scientific voyeurist crackpot theories and self-congratulatory pats in the back"
But anyways, I'm a cis person who isn't well versed in this subject AT ALL so I'd appreciate some others' input.
Edited by iamconstantineopen"Note Natter"?
On the Hero's Slave Harem page, Tropers.Discar changed this section of the description:
By removing both notes, citing "Note Natter" as an edit reason.
I've never heard of "Note Natter" being a thing, although, I can certainly see how notes could be irrelevant to an example. However, this isn't an example — it's the description — and on a trope HEAPED with tons of Unfortunate Implications. IMO, the notes (the second one, at least) were extremely important for explaining exactly why the trope is so contentious.
Edited by NubianSatyressopenPoor grammar again
The Lampshade Hangerman uses very bad grammar. Here's an
example: "After Recieving tons of Hate-mail, which THANKFULLY have been Filtered and scanned for Biological Weapons like Anthrax by the Japanese Post Office; He gets A Fan-Letter from a guy from Norway named Bjorn who has written that he, his family, and Norway itself Loves him; even sending him a box of foreign sweets, and A Scarf modeled after the Norwegian Flag" (Note the lack of punctuation at the end.)
openFridge pages
On Fridge pages, I sometimes notice users treating them like Headscratchers 2.0 and putting in questions in their bullet points, even if they're to answer them in the following sentence. Is this allowed? I'd assume that Fridge should refrain from asking questions within the entries and only call attention to things about the work that make sense in context which the series itself never lampshades.
openOdd edits for a story
I found Fanfic.The Little Lock That Could, and while the page itself was alright, I noticed that the subpages were in... rough shape, to say the least. Some issues include:
- Entries that are just blank bullet points (see here
and here
)
- A page that initially was just framework
(and it still has the templates).
- Pages that don't specify a franchise (Characters.Minor Characters and Characters.Major Characters - probably not an issue, but it's still irritating)
- Pages being updated in real time
(not really sure how to phrase it, but the page description itself gives updates on the story that would be more suited for a trivia page)
- And the subpage that convinced me to make this post, Memes.The Little Lock That Could. Not only is it very short for a subpage (only four entries), but it also has a total of seven images on it (the character pages also have some issues with multiple images in one folder, but this is the most extreme example I saw).
I noticed that most of this was done by one person (Tropers.Divoratore), but they haven't edited since October 2020.
Edited by idonomopenThe Amazing Spider-Man Series Cleanup
The page for The Amazing Spider-Man Series is a cluttered mess. There's too much in the lead to the article, it's confusing to read, and a lot of it repeats itself.
I think it should either be cut down to the bare minimum of what is needed, or if we want to keep it, clean it up and make it presentable.
Sorry if this isn't the place for this. I've not done this before.
resolved Author's saving throw misuse/concern
So, after talking about it
on "Is this an example?", on the advice of a mod I decided to come here. I'm pretty much echoing what I write over on "Is this an example?" but...here's what's up.
I'm a bit concerned about a trope under the category of Author's Saving Throw. As I was going through the trope page a few months ago, I noticed Misterian wrote the following a while ago:
- The first two chapters of RayFox faced some criticism 4 years later for its narrative expecting readers to sympathize with the citizens and authorities of Meva City for persecuting and vilifying Ray as an arsonist and terrorist despite not knowing (or seemingly not trying to look into) the full story of Ray's vigilante exploits simply on the basis of "he broke the law and destroyed property, so it warrants consequences" with little to no nuance, especially regarding why he did. Chapter 4 shifts the narrative from Ray joining S.O.S. to atone to the authorities extending the offer to him out of recognition for the lives he's saved and sees his help as something desperately needed, with implications that the public have grown suspicious of the accusations against Ray. The S.O.S. is friendlier and open-minded toward Ray in contrast to previous chapters, with some seeking further details from Ray about the Meva Arsenal incident. The end of Chapter 4 fully cemented this with Rayfox upstaging a public speech held by Morales to fully explain who he is, the powers he possesses, and what he's been doing, Making clear his goals to improve himself as a crime fighter he's forming at own request rather than anyone shaming him for his apparent disregard for the law, as if the author has taken to fully embracing the viewing of Ray as an earnest aspiring hero rather than the young careless vigilante the previous chapters tried to portray him as.
At the time, I had tried to trim it down so that it was more laconic, but he added a whole lot more while putting it on the comic page via edit requests, and now I'm beginning to wonder if it actually is valid; almost feels as if it's a bit "braggy" on the troper's part, as if he feels the author suddenly changed the narrative of the story because of 3 reviews on the Tropes page.
Regardless of my gripes with the comic, this seems like a rather inaccurate use of the trope. Unlike with stuff like Unintentionally Sympathetic/Unsympathetic, it would have taken a good chunk of the audience vocally criticizing it for this particular trope in question to count, and given that the audience isn't really that big or publicly vocal in general (with the exception of his fans, and even then, they aren't 100% present from what I've seen), it doesn't feel like it applies. I'm very tempted to remove from both the trope page and the comic page via edit requests, but I dunno.
I can confirm that there is no ill-intent behind this, only a simple misunderstanding of the trope and what it really means. But still, I would like to get this taken down.
EDIT: After speaking with the original writer of the entry, it seems we agree that the entry doesn't fit the trope. As for the comic page, I still have to get a consensus for that to actually be removed.
Edited by Stardust5099openWarning to NOT add context to examples?
Abraxas (Hrodvitnon) has a huge commented out header (takes up almost the entire screen on desktop, which has the instructions "Be aware, trope entries listed on these pages are deliberately shortened, to both keep spoilers to a minimal and actively encourage page viewers to read the actual fanfiction. Please do not extend entries, and try to avoid going into unnecessary details."
Is this kind of thing allowed? It seems like this encourages Zero-Context Examples- the page itself has a number of them, which I've commented out.
openWriter Conflicts With Canon misuse?
- The Rise of Skywalker establishes that Supreme Leader Snoke was actually a failed clone created by Palpatine, with several other Snokes visible in vats on Exegol. This directly contradicts previous declarations that Snoke had been around for many decades, and that Palpatine only learned about his existence shortly before his death at the end of Return of the Jedi.
WCWC is when Word of God conflicts with canon. I believe this was All There in the Manual material that was contradicted as opposed to out of work creator statements. (If WCWC allows prior material how's it different than Retcon?) Or if both statements and later material contradict does the latter supersede the former? What to do?
Relating:
- According to the Sonic 4 web site, Sonic and Knuckles' levels and stories take place at the exact same time in Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Fans noted that there was tons of evidence within the game itself that Knuckles' story is after Sonic's story. Examples include Angel Island Zone Act 1 showing only the sky in the background instead of the ocean, Eggman's Death Egg is missing in the background for Launch Base Zone and Lava Reef Zone Act 2, the ghosts in Sandopolis Zone Act 2 are already wandering around at the start (you later find the container that held them was already broken by Sonic), and Mecha Sonic appears to fight Knuckles at the end of the game since he didn't explode when Sonic defeated him previously. This was rectified by later material stating that it indeed took place after Sonic's campaign.
Would a official website be All There in the Manual as opposed to Word of God?
Edited by Ferot_Dreadnaught

This might be yet another futile attempt, but I would like to enforce "Please state the character(s)" in Characters.SCP Foundation (the skips sheets, other sheets are doing fine). One major problem with them is that people troping someone else instead of the character in the header.
For example, SCP-5000 used to be filled with tropes belong to the Foundation (which has its own sheet) despite the SCP-5000 is (from the article itself) "a non-functional mechanical suit identified within its internal schematics as an 'Absolute Exclusion Harness' designed by the SCP Foundation."
This is likely stem from how the site march on with style. While many articles are named after the object itself, but some don't. (Although this isn't something new, although it didn't cause problem before because at least the object will be the center of the story. But many new articles on SCP Wiki are now a tale in skip guise.) For examples, said SCP-5000 is called "Why" while SCP-4000 is called "Taboo", neither is the name of the object. So I guess that's how tropers think "Anything is ok if they appears in said story.", and so we got purely narrative tropes list in character sheet (For example, here's one from Characters.SCP Foundation SC Ps 3000 To 3999:
Mind you, SCP-3008 object is an IKEA store as Eldritch Location. The journey is written by a man trapped in it but not the direct result of its anomaly, so the trope is clearly not belong to the IKEA store itself.)
I did add some "Tropes associated with X" to handful of skips entries because I think it should resolve some issue. People should at least aware of who or what they're troping and it can cover other one-shot character who's only has major role in one skip (for example, the aforementioned SCP-5000 has a good chunk of the story being about a character called Pietro Wilson who used that suit even if he isn't skip itself). The 3008 above? Troping "people trapped inside" (or the "store and people trapped inside") would allow that misplaced trope to stay with minor edit. Plus, that's how other sheet done. When troping a Stage 2 of video games, we add "Tropes associated with mini-boss" and "Tropes associated with stage boss" if they're stand out.
Unfortunately, it isn't done to all entries yet because, as noted, not all articles are named after the character and so I need to look up the article first (and with articles getting longer these days...). Also, even when it's done with the character's name clearly stated, some people just ignore it anyway and that's discouraging.
But lets try a gain, put a big bolded notification of "Please state the character before troping." on the top of skip sheet and see if it would help. Although I cannot write a good message and need help here.
Edited by Kuruni