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openDuplicate character folder on Zootopia character sheet Western Animation
I can only access the Internet on my phone right now, which is why I'm not fixing this myself. Somebody mistakenly added a "Mr. Otterton" folder to the Characters.Zootopia page when there was already an "Emmett Otterton" folder. Can someone who has access to a connection with a computer please merge any non-duplicated information from the "Mr. Otterton" folder to the "Emmett Otterton" folder?
open Is it okay to remove Awesome moments? Western Animation
There's an entry over in Popeye that sounds awesome at first- Popeye beating up a jerk and helping out a poor kid- until one realizes that it's a pure Designated Hero moment for Popeye himself as the guy was being a jerk but not being a criminal whereas Popeye himself considers committing multiple crimes (assault, destruction of property, theft) a "good deed." It feels like such a cringe-worthy moment for the legacy of such a great character that I brought it up in the Discussion page there but I'm not holding my breath for any replies. YMMV, of course. I just want to make sure it's okay to do so with good reason as I've had people remove things I've added to Awesome pages in the past since they edited based on their point of view.
openUgh...! Western Animation
Just look at this grammar!
From Making Fiends:
- Production Posse: Peter Merryman is the voice of Amy Winfrey's Big Bunny. Amy Winfrey herself, who has also done voices in her other cartoons.
I dealt with it via one of my usual manners: commented it out until a way could be found to salvage this mess.
open Copy-pasted description on Creator/VanBeurenStudios Western Animation
The description on Van Beuren Studios is taken from a blog post about the studio on another website. I was just randomly browsing articles and don't actually know anything about it, so I don't feel comfortable rewriting it myself. Can someone write an original description for the page?
open Improper Entry Western Animation
Steven Universe S3E20 "Bismuth" has a "Hate Dumb" entry despite the page itself specifically saying not to put them on a work's page.
openThemself or themselves? Western Animation
A few days ago, The Tropper created the Recap page for the Steven Universe episode "Jungle Moon". In the summary, they had used "themselves" for Stevonnie. I changed it to "themself" as that's what the official summary uses, and what I thought was the correct pronoun. Three days ago, Tropper changed it back. So what is it? When you refer to one person, is it themselves or themself?
Edited by Crossover-Enthusiastopen Kids show I watched as a toddler(I think) in early 2000 Western Animation
It's a little long and I'm sorry for that. But this is everything I remember and it bothers me immensely that I don't remember what the show was for some reason. The rest of this is a copy paste from a rather long text message I sent to a group chat with my friends because I'm tired and don't want to type it all out. They don't know anything either, probably because they all live in different areas than I do and I'm sure that this was a local station.
The TV I had in my room was a very small box TV. I think it had "bunny ears" as some people called them, but basically the antennae that were used to get signal or something along those lines. I rarely moved those I think, since I never used the tv to watch live television. Which brings me to how I wonder.... I would have my vcr/DVD player hooked up to it, obviously, because I have always needed light and noise to sleep for some reason. So I would put in one of my DV Ds of a movie or an episode of Angelina Ballerina (I watched that all the time back then) and I would press the repeat button on the remote to the player so it would repeat the whole thing on loop all night. But sometimes when I would wake up early on Sunday (or maybe Saturday, but I'm sure it was Sunday) mornings(like 6 am early) it would be playing this stop motion(I think) cartoon with animals and it had a male narrator who sounded like the same on on every other cartoon I watched. I can't remember if the animals had voices outside of random noises. I remember that the animation and film was low quality, even for early 2000s(more like especially for early 2000s). I checked— these didn't seem to be a part of any of the DV Ds I owned. I never caught the name of the show. My mom doesn't remember it at all, it seems. She remembers me having the TV (which I kept for about a year. I don't remember why we got rid of it, but I wanna say it stopped working since it was rather old) I also remember one morning I finally woke up and it was on again (for some reason I remember it only coming on every once in a while but it felt like forever back then) and I went to dragged my mom into my room so she could tell me the name of the show but it wasn't on anymore when we came back. Which might be a stretch, but I remember it that way, oddly. It's possible that that was one of the days she didn't want to get out of bed and took too long, so the show that had very short episodes was over. But I remember the TV being off or... something.
Okay I'm going to add something here because I don't wanna go through what I just pasted to see if I forgot or not. The show was stop motion/claymation. I think. Or it was extremely bad(especially for early 2000s) 3D animation. It depicted animals. I don't remember them talking, but there was a male narrator. I wanna say he was English, but that I'm not sure. The only specific scene/episode I remember is one where a character, who I think was an elephant, wanted to be special or was boring with who he was, or maybe he was only trying to find a talent for himself... yeah that's it I think. Anyway, he started talking to his friends about their talents and I don't remember all of them but I do remember him talking to a beaver then going home and putting mustard and/or ketchup on a tree and trying to eat the bark off of it, like the beaver does. And he got sad when it didn't go the way he planned. That's all I have, a few things in my memory might be fuzzy(like the story about the TV show seemingly just being off when I finally got my nana into the room, I could easily remember that one wrong) it I think I got the details of the show correct. I only described the TV because I think this channel was local or something. I grew up in Bullard, Texas. I want to say I was between 4-7 years old, but most likely 4 or 5 (2005-2006 area most likely.)
open 1990’s Easter Special Western Animation
I saw it only once when I was around 8 or 9. I remember watching it at Easter time sometime between 1993 and 1996. It was an Easter cartoon special, not reoccurring TV show with an Easter themed episode. I don’t think it was a full-length movie, although it could have been. If it was a movie, it was never in theaters. All I can remember is there we’re talking farm or woodland animals. One of those animals was a rabbit, he seemed to be the central/most memorable animal character. I want to say it took place on or near a farm. There was a boy on the farm. He was the protagonist along with the talking animals. I don’t know if the boy and animals talked to each other, but the animals talked to one another. The antagonist was a machine or robotic type being I remember. I remembered that the machine/robot somehow hurt the boy, or defeated him somehow. The boy was on the ground hurt, and I remembered how bad I felt and how much I hated that evil robot machine villain thing. The animals were devastated and were on the boy’s side when this happened. I don’t remember what happened at th end, or how everything turned out for the boy and the animals. I want to say that th annals somehow saved the boy from the machine villain but I can’t distinctly remember how that happened. I have always connected the memory of this animated TV special with Easter time, and Easter themed, though I have no memory of the show itself besides the taking rabbit to associate to Easter specifically. I’ve been struggling with this memory and wanting to know what it is I remembered after all these years. I know I remember the way it made me feel the most. Maybe that’s the reason I can’t let it go, and I need to know more. I’ve been struggling with this for 15+ years. Anything would help! Thank you!
open Late 1980’s or Early 1990’s Animated Easter Special Western Animation
I saw it only once when I was around 8 or 9. I remember watching it at Easter time sometime between 1993 and 1996. It was an Easter cartoon special, not reoccurring TV show with an Easter themed episode. I don’t think it was a full-length movie, although it could have been. If it was a movie, it was never in theaters. All I can remember is there we’re talking farm or woodland animals. One of those animals was a rabbit, he seemed to be the central/most memorable animal character. I want to say it took place on or near a farm. There was a boy on the farm. He was the protagonist along with the talking animals. I don’t know if the boy and animals talked to each other, but the animals talked to one another. The antagonist was a machine or robotic type being I remember. I remembered that the machine/robot somehow hurt the boy, or defeated him somehow. The boy was on the ground hurt, and I remembered how bad I felt and how much I hated that evil robot machine villain thing. The animals were devastated and were on the boy’s side when this happened. I don’t remember what happened at th end, or how everything turned out for the boy and the animals. I want to say that th annals somehow saved the boy from the machine villain but I can’t distinctly remember how that happened. I have always connected the memory of this animated TV special with Easter time, and Easter themed, though I have no memory of the show itself besides the taking rabbit to associate to Easter specifically. I’ve been struggling with this memory and wanting to know what it is I remembered after all these years. I know I remember the way it made me feel the most. Maybe that’s the reason I can’t let it go, and I need to know more. I’ve been struggling with this for 15+ years. Anything would help! Thank you!
Edited by Sugarcoated1102openLost Dr. Seuss films (censored) Western Animation
Hi Tropers! I'm an ELA teacher and secretly addicted to this site. Joined because I had a question:
My fifth graders are doing the Seussical and I'm trying to find copies of the Looney Tunes/Chuck Jones Dr. Seuss films, mainly "Horton Hatches the Egg" and "The Tail of Gertrude Mc Fuzz", since those are the subject of the play. I found some clips on Youtube but not the whole cartoons.
Also, it's been years since I've watched these classics, and while I'm not a big fan of censorship, I was wondering if anyone had seen them recently and had any advice about whether or not they'd still be "kosher" in a public school. I had a couple doubts...
1. I read online that "Horton Hatches the Egg" originally had a scene where a fish commits suicide by shooting himself in the head. I'd be in hot water if I showed that in class, so I need the censored version.
2. I remember the animated "Gertrude Mc Fuzz" has Gertrude the bird going to the doctor, who shaves off her tail feathers. I recall some off-color humor where the shave exposes Gertrude's bare fanny and the doctor is slapping her fanny with Calamine lotion, humiliating the bird. Funny in some respects, but fifth graders might get the wrong idea :P
Any advice where to find these cartoons and if school-friendly cuts exist? Thanks!
openNo Title Western Animation
I would like to introduce a new series and am a little unsure of how to put it on. The Series is called "Zula Patrol", which is -quoting from its website-:The Zula Patrol, a 3D/CG animated children's show, is designed to entertain while promoting an understanding of science and astronomy through engaging character-driven stories, which focus on specific educational science learning objectives. In every episode of The Zula Patrol, the characters demonstrate inquiry-based learning and critical thinking skills. They also model inquisitiveness, observation, self-reflection, and social experiences that encourage collaboration, teamwork, and an excitement for scientific exploration and problem solving.
The Zula Patrol television show is a part of Zula's Pre K - 3rd Grade curriculum titled Zula's Exploration Mission Modules and Afterschool Program titled Zula's Afterschool Discovery Program. Both the school and afterschool programs provide all materials needed for children to view and discuss an episode of The Zula Patrol, read a similarly themed book, complete a similarly themed hands-on activity, and go online to Zula World.com for a technology-based exploration of the program topics. "-www.zula.com/main.php
What the website does not mention is that for every new science principle that they introduce, they break at least one scientific principle.
open Unknown Cartoon needs to be found Western Animation
Hello, there's a cartoon that I saw as a random GIF on a random GIF site, there was a site full of GI Fs and I found it randomly because I wanted to find something else (You know how the internet is...) But I found something interesting there though:
There was a cool GIF (Seems to be from a cartoon, I am not sure too.) With a little cute boy about 10 or 14 years old wearing a patch on his cheek, he was blonde- albino with big eyelashed ocean-blue eyes, also he seemed to sit with his elbow on the table very bored near a fried chicken, but he was too bored to eat it. It seemed to be a Russian GIF because it's title was in Russian, I copy pasted it on Google Search and there was also Google Translate saying that the respective text's meaning was ,, boy", lol. I knew already that he's a boy, so obvious but i wanted to know at least his name to search the cartoon, I actually wanted the title of the cartoon itself but it was nowhere to be seen. By the way, there's a hint, he looked like Ciel Phantomhive from Black Butler but blonde and a bit more realistic but still very similar, same expression, feminine face, same hairstyle, thin female-like eyebrows, cat lips, big eyes and he was also blinking and his eyelashes were ,, dancing". Also it seemed to be an older cartoon, does anyone know? i really liked the design, I hope it's plot isn't a shit like Black Butler's one.
open Educational Inaccuracies Western Animation
In King of the Hill, substitute teachers like Peggy are often shown grading papers and performing major duties as subs. Having been a sub in Texas myself, I can say that subbing involved more babysitting of classrooms of various ages rather than actual teaching. What trope would this fall under?
openWas Homer meant to be unsympathetic in "Homer The Herectic" Western Animation
Found this in the Unintentionally Sympathetic Western Animation subpage
Homer again in "Homer the Heretic." He opts to stay home from church one Sunday and when Marge and the kids go without him, he revels in having the house to himself for the first time in years. He enjoys it so much that he decides to stop going to church altogether. Marge, Flanders, and Reverend Lovejoy all try to get Homer to start attending services again, and he even dreams of being confronted by God himself. However, when you stop to think that Homer's duties as a full-time worker, husband, and father mean that he is never alone, it's hard to blame him for wanting just a few hours of me-time each week. And considering that when he does go to church, he often sleeps through the sermon (including at the end of the episode when he's convinced to go back), he's clearly not getting anything out of it anyway.
I don't really think Homer was meant to be in the wrong for not wanting to go to church considering that God actually seemed lenient about it.
Also, i think Homer kind of won against them by sleeping through Timothy's sermon at the end.
resolved Possibly old Cartoon Network show where a female character is burned alive in a bonfire Western Animation
Hey everyone! I’ve been trying for years to figure out if a scene I saw as a kid was real or just a fever dream. I hope someone here can help me identify it.
What I remember:
I watched this episode sometime between 2016 and 2018, but I’m pretty sure the cartoon itself was much older, probably from the early/mid-2000s era (Billy and Mandy, Cow and Chicken, Courage the Cowardly Dog, etc.).
Channel: I’m almost certain it aired on Cartoon Network, but there’s a slight chance it might have been Nickelodeon.
The episode had an extremely dark and disturbing tone. The most vivid memory I have is of a female character (probably human) being thrown into a large bonfire by a group of other characters.
It happened at night, and the fire had huge flames. I distinctly remember her screams — they were loud, desperate, and very unsettling.
After she was burned, the other characters acted like it was normal — they seemed to be celebrating or socializing, totally unbothered.
The visual style was odd — it had low saturation, almost grayish tones. It stood out from typical colorful cartoons.
Art style: I can’t recall exactly, but it felt like something in between the smoother style of Teen Titans (2003) and more exaggerated cartoony animation.
I vaguely recall the girl begging or pleading before being thrown in, but nobody helped her.
What it wasn’t:
I’ve already checked and it’s definitely not: Billy and Mandy, Happy Tree Friends, Superjail!, or Courage the Cowardly Dog.
If this rings any bells, or if anyone remembers something similar, I’d really appreciate any leads — even if it turns out to be a lost episode, a banned scene, or just something obscure.
Thank you guys so much in advance!
Edited by ReconditeBoil434openChanging the title on Rabbit Ears Productions Page Western Animation
So, I was wondering about how do I change the title on a trope page? I wanted to change the title on the Rabbit Ears Productions page to Rabbit Ears Entertainment, since Rabbit Ears Productions was the old title name that the company had for itself during the 1980s and the 1990s. Nowadays, they go by the name Rabbit Ears Entertainment.
resolved Is the Classic Disney Shorts Characters page locked? Western Animation
I was just trying to add some tropes to the Characters page for Classic Disney Shorts, specifically to the folder for the one-shot character Joey the Kangaroo, but whenever I try to save my changes, I'm instead booted to this website's main page. I double-checked my messages, but I don't see any messages about being banned, I'm signed in, so I don't know what's wrong. Is this page under protection, perhaps?
If it helps, this was the rewritten entry I was trying to save:
A baby kangaroo that Donald decides to adopt as his son for some reason.
- Aw, Look! They Really Do Love Each Other: While Joey gets thoroughly into trouble, and ends up putting Donald through the ringer, the short emphasizes that he's not malicious, but just an energetic and mischievous little kid. In fact he cares about Donald a great deal, and he showers Donald with affection at several points. And then there's the climax of the episode, where he thinks Donald has been eaten by a bear, and he goes berserk in his efforts to rescue him..
- Badass Adorable: An adorable infant kangaroo... whose reaction to seeing his adoptive father Donald seemingly be eaten by a full-grown black bear is to beat seven shades of snot out of it to save him.
- Batter Up!: After the initial jab with a red-hot fire poker and a thorough drubbing with his kicks, Joey grabs a handy baseball bat and chases the "bear" around the house with it.
- Badly Battered Babysitter: The central point of comedy of his short is that he's rambunctious and a lot stronger than Donald anticipated, so Donald ends up being run off of his feet. And that's before Donald makes the poorly judged decision to play a joke on Joey by pretending that his bearskin rug is not only a real bear, but one that manages to eat Donald.
- Boxing Kangaroo: He's only an infant kangaroo, but he's already a skilled pugilist, as shown when he attacks the "bear" (really Donald inside of a bearskin rug).
- Hates Baths: At one point in "Daddy Duck", Donald attempts to give Joey a bath, and he is not thrilled at the prospect, using his feet and his tail to brace himself so he can't be forced into the water. It is subtly implied that Joey's refusal stems from the fact the water is too cold, as he's shown dipping his own elbow into it in imitation of Donald and then shuddering in disgust.

The Scooby-Doo character named Flim-Flam had a Scrappy status that was worse than the trope namer himself. Why did people hate him?