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openSouth park episode Western Animation
Okay, it's me again, the problem is still my memory. I was asking myself what was that episode of South Park in which I remember there was a character with the aspect of a kinda freak or disabled, a kid-character which seems a loser, but with an amazing deep voice (at least in the dubbed italian version), who in the end of the episode performs a very good speech. The character only appears in this episode. I think it's an old episode.
The character I'm talking about is not Jimmy.
The episode is not "Freak Strike".
Please, can someone help me to recollect?
openSelf-reporting involvement in Edit War
On Oct 22nd, keyblade333 added this example
to YMMV.Tales Of Arise.
To summarize, there's a scene in the game where one character stops another from killing a villain to avenging her parents, despite he himself having gotten revenge on said character earlier. Fans felt this was vastly hypocritical, but the story goes on to say that he wanted to stop her because (A) she had too much "hatred in her heart" and (B) he felt Vengeance Feels Empty after having gotten his own revenge earlier.
To me, the entry came across too much like Complaining About People Not Liking the Show, so I edited it
with the hopes of explaining why said moral didn't "click".
Keyblade edited my rewrite again here
and I edited here
, stating "I still don't think this wording is quite right. Not trying to Edit War, so if there's still an issue, I think we shold go to Discussion. But hopefully, that won't be necessary and this edit can find a happy medium." That was probably a mistake.
Keyblade did indeed bring it back up on the Discussion page
, stating that they had "no issues with it" but made a confusing remark about mentioning 'this is what was meant to be the taken response' and 'providing context'.
Then, last night, Tropers.gorobestboy came in and reset everything
back to keyblade's original edit, stating:
I commented out the example entirely and then moved the entire issue to Discussion because now we were smack in the middle of what I feared: a full-blown Edit War.
Here is my most recent
response on the Discussion page for the record.
openTroper with rude edit reasons
jerodast
has a habit of using rude edit reasons in their edits.
- On this page
, they uncommented out a couple of ZCEs, believing they had enough context. While it's sometimes debatable as to whether an example has enough context, edit reasons like "I could copy a description of the trope into the text here, because it describes exactly what happens, but that would be an incredibly irritating and redundant thing to have to do" and "Are we expecting a full description of all skin she shows instead of concluding the completely self-explanatory reasoning that there are various sexy shots of the character throughout the movie? Christ" are rather rude.
- Here
, while it's fine to point out that the trope entry shouldn't refer to "above" or "below" examples, was it really necessary to add " DON'T TRY TO PULL THIS CUTESY CRAP"?
- Here
, they start by saying "This is just nonsense" in reference to someone using "Mr." instead of "Dr.", before going on a long-winded discussion that qualifies as a small Wall of Text by itself.
- Here
, they deleted a natter-y sub-bullet. But rather than putting something like "removing natter" or "repair, don't respond", they put "this comment literally adds nothing. actual examples or don't bother!"
- Here
, the edit reason starts with "This is SUCH a borderline example, Jesus", and goes on to mention "the concentrated power of fan hate".
I've sent a notifier or two, still waiting for a response. I thought I may as well bring up the issue in case I don't get a response, or their reply is of a similar level of rudeness.
Edited by Shadow8411openOnce again, a non-existant work wonk Videogame
I initially brought this up in the Complaining thread, but upon further investigation of the culprit's edit history, it was deemed mod attention may be warrented.
Galdodon 99 made some weird edits to YMMV.Paper Mario The Origami King earlier today.
- “Paper Mario: The Origami Nazi”. Explanation King Olly’s plan for getting rid of all the Paper Toads involves him wishing via the 1,000 Crane Technique that all the Paper Toads go away forever since they share the same face and are poisoning his “perfect world” similar to Adolf Hitler.
And
- Pandering to the Base: While many critics and fans alike praise the game for being a Surprisingly Improved Sequel to its predecessors, a few such as the Villain Army and its Supreme Leader, accuse it of pandering to the people who hated Paper Bowser and his Koopa Troop by having King Olly be the main villain throughout the entire game, while Paper Bowser doesn’t steal back the spotlight from him, though it could just be shock over the eradication of the Paper Toads via the 1,000 Crane Technique. Hell, a review of the game
even said this while bashing the game for holding back Nintendo's development of Mario And Luigi Paper Jam 2, despite its 8.5 review rating.
I expanded the spoiler in the second part myself, but aside from their carelessness or lack of respect for spoiling, other red flags include the memetic mutation being a triple bullet point, and frankly I've never seen that meme around as a meme at least in the relatively decent portions of the internet, and the pothole to a Darth Wiki work and reference to a game that has at no point even been hinted to being planned in the Pandering to the Base.
They also added a justifying edit to another entry, I'll just remove that myself when I'm not on mobile.
After making that initial post, it was observed that they had made edits pertaining to the Villain Army, an unpublished work on Darth Wiki, and Paper Jam 2, which as of yet has not even been teased by any development staff, on other pages as well. This whole thing feels like another episode of the Tropers Obsessed with Works that Don't Exist show.
openMudvayne and Numetal Music
For the last five years or so, on and off there has been an ongoing issue with NuMetal being part of the Mudvayne page. It has been removed a couple of times usually by the same troper BornnofSelf ban evading. They have used various handles to do this, and when they have been found out usually tropers simply revert the changes, generally it has been accepted that Mudvayne are Numetal. Established via various sources including
https://www.revolvermag.com/music/11-most-iconic-looks-nu-metal-stars
The general consensus has been that the band is Numetal.
'
Once again Numetal has been removed from the band page this time by relatively new troper https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Tropers/dognation83
. On both the Mudvayne page and the Numetal page with the reasoning Mudvayne is clearly prog-metal with no links to estabilsh this. I am seeking consensus to revert as this has been an ongoing argument I thought resolved with them being established as Numetal.
openTough Act To Follow
FTR, the phrase means, "This remains more beloved than its successor(s)", doesn't it? I've found and edited three instances of someone using the term to mean, "This couldn't compare to its predecessor(s)"; the fact that it meets the Rule of Three makes me want to double-check that I didn't misinterpret the phrase myself.
To recall a specific example, YMMV.Hello Dolly referred to Bette Midler as a tough act for Barbra Streisand to follow, even though Streisand played Dolly in 1968, and Midler in 2017.
openBetter Description Music
I recently thought of improving upon the (rather sparse) page for Ken Ashcorp, and even included him in the namespace for pages needing work. However, seeing no activity for several months, I decided to start working on it myself. The biggest problem I saw with the page was the description - it was in a serious need of updating. I finished my version of the new description, but I think I'm gonna need it peer-reviewed. Is this thread a good place for peer reviews? If so, here are the two versions of the description for comparison.
Edited by AoeAbilityopenEdit War on Game-Breaker / Genshin Impact
Courtesy link here
- September 14, 4:29 PM: Cauchy Rerun When added this entry about the Raiden Shogun with this edit reason: "After seeing the latest Abyss stats, in which a hefty amount of teams involved the Shogun in some way, and seeing the Shogun's performance with the "national team" (in which she appeared to completely REPLACE Sucrose/Chongyun in this iteration,) I believe she does a good enough job to land herself here. Edit as needed"
- Despite the element she lords over suffering several issues, the Raiden Shogun/Ei still performs a fantastic job as a sub-DPS and Energy supplier, fitting for her title as the Electro Archon. Her Elemental Skill, Transcendence: Baleful Omen, functions like a slightly faster version of Fischl's Nightrider, except instead of firing every second, the turret instead inflicts a bit more Electro damage with everyone's attacks every 0.9 seconds, be they through the effects of Bursts, Skills or otherwise. This allows her to function as a much more effective way to set up Electro reactions, especially with Catalyst characters such as Barbara or Yanfei. Meanwhile, her Burst, Secret Art: Musou Shinsetsu, is the real star of the show. For around 7 seconds after an initial slash, Ei takes control of the Shogun and uses the Musou no Hitachi to perform a different standard attack string. This generates a total of 5 particles minimum throughout its duration, allows Ei to set up tons of Electro reactions, since the Burst's attacks all deal heavy Electro damage, and the first slash hits like a truck to boot. When paired with her second Constellation, it gets even more bonkers, as the Burst's standard attacks now ignore enemies' defenses, letting her shred through entire crowds of mooks like wet paper. Due to the nature of her Skill, she also generates Energy for teammates at blistering speeds; good thing for her, too, as both the initial slash and altered attack chain get more powerful depending on how many teammates used their Burst beforehand. With a high enough Energy Recharge (made easier by her Ascension stat being Energy Recharge,) she can be such a good battery that the rest of the team can use Burst upon Burst upon Burst, even the costly 80 Energy ones such as Pyronado, which in turn gets the Shogun to max power faster.
- September 17, 12:53 PM: Stage7-4 commented out the entry with this edit reason: "Hiding this for now, as I'm not convinced the Raiden Shogun is a gamebreaker. Most Genshin analysis sites list her as just average, listing the weaknesses of electro, the importance of her C2, and her field time demands. While yes she's seeing a lot of abyss use right now, the newest character being popular isn't extraordinary. If and when this gets added back, spoilers regarding Ei will need to be removed."
- October 18, 11:03 AM: Cauchy Rerun When uncommented the entry with this edit reason: "Raiden Shogun is one of the most-used characters in the newest iteration of the Abyss, after being used a lot when she appeared as well. It appears she's here to stay in the meta."
Based on Cauchy's edit reasons, I suspect that they're showing favoritism towards a particular character and are trying to shoehorn their bias without discussion. Edited by DivineFlame100
openJackpot21 removing Fridges from Ladybug that are good/fixable instead of bad (At least IMO) Western Animation
...Yes, I know, but I can assure you that Jackpot has no interest in talking to me and discussions on the pages have not worked for me.
(NOTE: The following is for the stuff removed in the 10:37 PM edit on October 19th. While I have other things that I disagree with Jackpot removing in past edits, I put those on the Discussion page and the Mods prefer one or the other).
First: in the removal of a additional bit onto an Fridge for 'Gang of Secrets'. This fridge bit.
...
The fact that Marinette wasn´t akumatized after breaking up with Luka isn´t so strange. She's been trying to distract herself from her sadness, probably to avoid attracting Shadow Moth's attention.
...
This is what was removed.
...
- Also, her anger is towards Shadow Moth. Considering his actions as villain, for Gabriel it should be nothing particular that a civilian hates his alter-ego.
- It's also very likely Gabriel deliberately doesn't send akuma after people who are specifically angry at Hawk/Shadow Moth themselves because they'd be very unlikely to cooperate with him and/or he'd be empowering people that want to directly use it against him. He's used people angry at "Gabriel" before since they don't realize that's the person they are cooperating with and he's safe in his lair from them, but akumatizing someone who wants to target his villain self would probably be counter productive.
- Also, her anger is towards Shadow Moth. Considering his actions as villain, for Gabriel it should be nothing particular that a civilian hates his alter-ego.
...
While you could probably streamline this a bit, this is not a unfair point. The guy can sense what is causing a negative emotion, he monologues about what is causing the pain when he hears it. It is not hard to add onto the above point with that additional point.
Second: from Crocoduel. This one could have used some tweaking in the flow at the end, but he cut off the end part of this
...
- Juleka's hero form, like her akuma form, is a lot brighter than her normal get up. However Rose's is not darker looking like her akuma, but just as bright as normal. Both an Akuma and a Miraculous bring out an inner look for a hero and a villain, and both girls do admire the other. Other neither seem to see a dark clad hero as ideal: they don't want to be Batman they want to be like Ladybug or Majesta.
To this
...
- Juleka's hero form, like her akuma form, is a lot brighter than her normal get up. However Rose's is not darker looking like her akuma, but just as bright as normal. Both an Akuma and a Miraculous bring out an inner look for a hero and a villain, and both girls do admire the other.
...
With the bit missing it it lacks the clarification that the idea is that while they admire the looks of the other (the bright Rose to the dark Juleka and vice versa), their idea of what a hero is the same (bright).
Third from Optigami
This is the original version
...
- Shadow Moth choosing Nino/Carapace as the one to impersonate makes a lot of sense. As Adrien's friend, he's over their place constantly so he'd be overly familiar with his attitude and how to convincingly act like him. And in "Heart Hunter", he battled Fu as Jade Turtle who transformed in front of him and used his power so he remembered Wayzz's name (and depending on the language version the words to transform) and how to use Shelter properly so he could even convincingly impersonate Carapace. He only gives himself away by not reciprocating Alya's handshake properly, something that Gabriel would have never seen. While Gabriel also saw most of the rest transform in "Miracle Queen", he barely knows anything about them and could possibly slip up, and in the case of Kagami, while he is familiar with her enough to convincingly impersonate her, she didn't transform in Miracle Queen so him not knowing Longg's name (especially when Kagami herself was happy to see him again last time) to transform would raise suspicions. It also let him get Alya as bait, as was said in episdoe.
...
This is what it was edited to.
...
- Shadow Moth choosing Nino/Carapace as the one to impersonate makes a lot of sense. As Adrien's friend, he's over their place constantly so he'd be overly familiar with his attitude and how to convincingly act like him. And in "Heart Hunter", he battled Fu as Jade Turtle who transformed in front of him and used his power so he remembered Wayzz's name (and depending on the language version the words to transform) and how to use Shelter properly so he could even convincingly impersonate Carapace. He only gives himself away by not reciprocating Alya's handshake properly, something that Gabriel would have never seen.
...
While episdoe did need to be fixed, I don't see the point in removing the last bit. The idea in the above clarifies why the Kagami option was not considered. (there is some show reasons why that would be caught quicker, but this is in moth's mind, not Cat's mind). It's not bad information to elaborate on.
Fourth: Also from Optigami the following was removed.
...
- Chloe was the only temporary hero who did not show heroic traits in this episode whne in a situation to do sonote Kim missed the entire snafu by getting into one of his self-inflicted races, and thus was in no place to help anyone, while Chloe did, from making the moves to be ready in case they were needed to helping others try to get to safety. Another step in the 'Chloe was never a hero' demonstration.
...
Several other tropes entries describe bits that elaborate on showing how Chloe was not ever a true hero from her uniform to why her complex developed in Maledictator to comparing King Monkey to Queen Bee by multiple tropers. The episode does feature virtually every other present temp hero to show these traits, which I see no reason to discard as an observation of Fridge Brilliance.
While there are other removals I do disagree with, these are the ones that strike me as the most counterproductive and needless and would like help either restoring them properly, or a good reason why they should stay off.
(Last time I had raised a forum here on the topic, https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=104957&type=att
, in regards to a Sevens Fridge removal, but not only is some of this stuff individual Fridge bits and not an additional point (though most of these are), well as was said in that entry by the one respondent War Jay 77 could be summed as 'if we stretched it could be called Natter but doing that would basically require a scrubbing of all fridge pages' in regards to these points and others.
So...is there anything that can be done in this situation?
openBroken Base on The Last Of Us Part Two
VideoGame.The Last Of Us Part 2, Tropers.Super Weegee added
this Broken Aesop example:
- Broken Aesop: The game has the messages that violence isn't always the answer and revenge sometimes just becomes a cycle of violence and further revenge and can even destroy everyone you love, with an attempt to call players out on their treating death as nothing by making the death animations very brutal and giving every character a name. There are two problems with this, however:
- One: The game often gives you no choice but to kill and will continue to call you out on it, even if you avoid violence as much as the game will allow. Furthermore, although some wounded enemies will beg and plead for mercy, if you do decide to spare them then as soon as you turn your back and try to walk away, they'll get up and attack you anyway.
- Two: Much of your killing/violence is in self-defense against those who have actively done worse things than you (like the Wolves, who kill anyone who happens upon them, danger or not).
- Three: Abby, who successfully took revenge against Joel, never feels guilty for it, only regrets that it wasn't satisfying, and never takes responsibility for starting the Cycle of Revenge, and yet gets a more hopeful ending than Ellie, who ultimately let go of revenge and was rewarded with a Downer Ending for it.
The example was then removed later the same day by Tropers.Mega J, with the edit reason "...except Abby did feel guilty about it because she doesn't pass up the chance to save Lev and Yara after they save her life", referring to the third bullet point.
Super_Weegee then restored the first two bullets, stating "...Then why remove the entire entry instead of just that one?"
Mega J did indeed later only delete the third point on the BrokenBase.Videogames page.
Given that the original edit reason only addressed the third point, I don't know think this qualifies as an edit war, but I have an objection to the example as a whole.
The game doesn't really qualify as "Blamed for Being Railroaded", as the story is about Abby and Ellie making choices and living with consequences, not the player. More than most games, TLOU and its sequel are a closed story about the characters in question. There are very few narrative choices the player can actually make. The story is about walking in the shoes of flawed people making questionable choices, and the game suitably blames the characters for these actions, not the player.
Also, the narrative isn't just about Ellie killing people in self-defense. The story is very clear, in fact, that Ellie has numerous chances to stop her pursuit of Abby and simply live peacefully with her girlfriend and her baby, but Ellie refuses to stop.
Given that the TLOU 2 is a game that tends to get a lot of negative criticism from a sizeable hatedom (in particular, spewing vitriolic hate towards Abby and thus defending Ellie's desire to murder Abby), I'm asking about this just to be on the safe side.
Edited by NubianSatyressopen"Edit War" (?) on Womanliness as Pathos
Tropers.Drakos25 has removed, readded (after I questioned them) and now re-removed an entry on Womanliness as Pathos. Here is the entry in question:
- One particular founding myth of Athens
details a dispute between Poseidon and Athena with Poseidon appearing before a coastal city and promising bountiful fishing and harvest from the sea so long as they name him as their Patron God. For no real reason, Athena appears and offers them olive trees, so long as they name her the Patron Goddess instead. The people take a vote, but the vote turns out to be completely split along gender lines: the men all vote for Poseidon, but are outnumbered by the women, who vote for Athena. Poseidon is furious and attempts to appeal with the Olympians, but even they are completely gender-split, so again the women win by one vote and the city officially becomes Athens. However, pissing off a sea god is a bad idea for a coastal city, so the Oracle suggests that they appease Poseidon by forbidding women from voting. So not only did Athena involve herself seemingly only as a Take That! at her uncle, but both mortal and Olympian women almost completely screwed the entire city and the Athenians could only resolve it by reducing women to second-class citizens.
- One particular founding myth of Athens
In addition to the video sourced in the example itself, when I brought this up to Drakos, they stated (paraphrasing) that they had "sixteen years of studying everything" about Greek myth and found "zero evidence" supporting that claim.
I then pointed to three
different
sources
which backed up the aforementioned video's interpretation of the myth. To which Drakos then replied that the first was a blog, the second "has gotten information wrong before" and the last is just a "reinterpretation". They then re-removed the entry and closed off further discussion by saying they would stand with their opinion.
So basically, I have four independent sources to back up this version of a myth (myths, I might add, rarely being clear-cut) while Drakos's only source right now basically amounts to "trust me". Edited by NubianSatyress
openBleached Underpants decayed?
I saw this on hololive
- Bleached Underpants: Not the actual talents themselves, but rather their illustrators, or "mamas" and "papas", some of whom were well-known for their NSFW content long before their associated members debuted, such as Pochi (Reine) and TAM-U (Shion), the former of which has a particularly prolific body of work.
I removed it on the ground that Bleached Underpants is about the creator toned down their works while the example is "He Also Did NSFW". Then I check the trope page itself to see if the entry also present there. But surprise... many on-page examples are just that "The creator also did porn". I read the trope description again, and while it does extend to the creators reuse their characters from NSFW works, I don't see how it could include "The creator did a completely unrelate NSFW work."
Here's a whole folder from the trope page.
- John Mitchell, aka DYWTABA_Brony, is not only known for being one of the storyboard artists and animators for DEATH BATTLE!. He's also the artist behind Anime One Night Stand Requests, a series of pornographic short comics planned to consist of over 300 pages of his characters shagging other characters once he is fully finished with it.
- Alvin Earthworm, the creator of Super Mario Bros. Z, is an avid furry artist as can be seen in his DeviantArt Account
.
- Mikeinel, the creator of Draw with Me, also draws H-comics and has animated adult parodies of certain cartoonsnote Including a parody of the Mystic Spring Oasis scene from Zootopia where the characters are Little Bit Beastly instead of Funny Animals.. Even some of his DeviantArt works reflect this.
- The famous pornographic animator ZONE also created this
Game Grumps animation. You'd never be able to tell if not for the rather... suggestive way a mustard bottle squirts on the end card.
- Retired YouTube Pooper TimoteiLSD once made an animation in 2011 called "Nyan Ho", which involved a cat and a Pop-Tart (named Lulubelle Nyanette Cheshire and Barry Popper respectively) having sex in the back of the latter's Hummer truck. While the original video was taken down from his channel for obvious reasons (though reuploads do exist), he was proud enough of Lulubelle that he had her make cameo appearances in almost every YTP he made since.
Should such examples removed, or I miss something?
Edited by KuruniopenHow do I create an Awesome Music page? Anime
(Apologies for the wall of text, TL;DR will be provided.)
Being a musician and fan of music (particularly OSTs), Awesome Music pages are my favorite thing to view on this site. However, I was disappointed to find that Dr. Stone had no Awesome Music page to speak of. I've been tempted to make it myself, but the reason why I enjoy visiting this site is to hear how other people describe things. If the majority of a page is written by me, it defeats the purpose and ceases being fun. With that aside, I've accepted that there are times when I must be that person for others, as opposed to the inverse.
Anyway, here's what I'm struggling with. Since I'm still relatively new to editing on the site, navigating the rules, forums, and resources is painfully difficult. I've searched numerous times for instructions or guidelines on how to create an Awesome Music page, but have come up empty-handed. When clicking "Create New" on the Main for Dr. Stone, there's no option for Awesome Music.
I can think of a few reasons as to why I haven't figured this out yet. One, I'm stupid and the answer is staring me in the face. Or two, I've been looking in all the wrong places. Knowing me, the former seems to be the most likely scenario.
TL;DR: I'm a newbie idiot, so I need help figuring out how to start an Awesome Music page for Dr. Stone.
Edited by NexyopenEdit War on Characters.Metroid Samus Aran
Hey guys. Back again with another Metroid-related problem.
Tropers.Mew1996 is falling into the trap of over-zealously editing after the release of a hot work, and as a result making several bad edits on Characters.Metroid Samus Aran.
The foremost issue is that they re-added a second page quote
after said quote had already been removed by another troper.
In that same edit, they have also added several poorly-written trope examples:
- A Cain and Abel entry that violates Examples Are Not Arguable (it starts off calling itself an "odd example" and then tries to bend over backwards trying to justify how it "fits" the trope).
- An Ax-Crazy "subversion" which is Not a Subversion. Ax-Crazy is a specific thing, not just "a person kills a lot of stuff", especially if the stuff in question are predators and aliens out to kill her first.
- A massive Wall of Text added to He Who Fights Monsters which goes into way too many tangents, flowery prose about Samus and her relationship with the Metroids, and potholing tropes which are unnecessary and distracting.
I've already removed or trimmed down all except the quote. The only reason I haven't touched it first is because of the aforementioned Edit War. Removing at this point would result in a fourth edit, so I brought the matter here first.
Edited by NubianSatyressopenUnusual entry on YMMV page
YMMV.Boys Dont Cry has this entry for Misaimed Fandom:
- Most reviewers loved it, but while sympathetic to the character, referred to Brandon as female and seemed to think it was a story about a lesbian who felt she had to pretend to be a boy because of homophobia. One reviewer even said something like "in disguising herself, ironically, this young woman helped other girls find themselves." In real life, Brandon was transgender, but also your average somewhat rugged young man and had the kind of opinions on feminism and lesbianism expected from a young man born in Nebraska in the early seventies.
The last paragraph of that entry seems to entirely be speculative. I searched Brandon Teena and found nothing to suggest he had something against feminism or lesbians. His WP page states that he was against Christian views on abstinence and LGBT (source 8 on the article, if you're curious).
Permission to remove that part? I know little about Brandon but wasn't able to find anything suggesting what the entry pertains.
openEdit War regarding Authors Saving Throw entry on YMMV/Metroid Dread.
For context, Other M is notorious for a scene in which the female protagonist Samus enters an area with deadly high temperature despite having a suit modification (Varia Suit) that lets her survive in extreme temperature. She does this until her former commanding officer, Adam, authorizes her to use the Varia Suit, almost dying in the process. In particular, fans were very upset that Samus obeyed Adam's orders not to do anything until he authorized her (she is no longer his subordinate at the time of the game) and that Adam waited until Samus almost cooked to death to give her said authorization.
Salmon Aran has made edits based on a recent "discovery" which claims that the English localization was to blame for that last sentence; in the Japanese version (allegedly, since I don't speak the language), Adam never orders her not to use her abilities and he never knew Samus was in that area until moments before he authorized the Varia Suit. End of context.
Salmon edited a Author's Saving Throw entry on YMMV.Metroid Dread that tries to differentiate the scene between the English and Japanese versions. Basically, constantly using terms like "English version" or "English fans" or "English Adam".
Given that Other M has been getting
more attention
here on ATT since the release of the newest game in the series, I specifically rewrote entry to remove the distinction between the English and Japanese versions of the game, because that seems to be a touchy subject and isn't really necessary to understanding the entry. Basically, regardless of the translation, the fans still find the idea that Samus would run into a heated area until authorized to use her Varia Suit to be pretty ridiculous and thus hilarious that ADAM's AI replacement warns her NOT to do that. I was trying to rewrite the entry to make the version distinctions irrelevant but Salmon re-added said distinctions
again with the edit reason:
Again, though, I think the entry can be written in a way where what's "canon" is irrelevant. Whether Adam intended it or not, the fact remains that Samus entered a deadly area and refused to use equipment that could save her life until he authorized it, whereas in Dread, the AI ADAM basically tells Samus not to do that immediately after she comes across a heated area.
Edited by NubianSatyressopenAmbiguous Situation examples?
My Little Pony: A New Generation had these What Happened to the Mouse? examples that were removed per cleanup
. Someone wants to add it back under Ambiguous Situation.
- Despite this is the same world as Friendship Is Magic, it's never acknowledged how the sun and moon are able to rise and set without the use of magic or someone to move them, or how weather occurs without ponies actively managing it.
- In Generation 4, it's shown that disharmony between the three pony races summons ghostly, horse-like creatures known as Windigos that feed on their negative emotions and turn Equestria into an icy wasteland. Here, the three races living apart and believing the worst of each other seems to have eliminated magic entirely, with no hint of the Windigos ever being a problem, though it's possible they were destroyed at the end of Friendship is Magic.
- Throughout Friendship Is Magic, the ponies make peace and became friends with several other creatures throughout the world, including dragons, griffons, changelings, hippogriffs, yaks, and others. However, none of these other creatures are ever referred to in the film, making it unclear what happened to them or if the ponies became divided from them like they did with each other.
- There is no clue as to if any of the god-level characters from Generation 4 still live. Discord, Celestia, Twilight, and Tirek are fairly explicitly immortal, and elder dragons can live for millennia. Where are they, and if any of the alicorns still live, what happened to cause them to abandon their people? Did they give up their immortality at some point, or lose it when magic ended?
- Are Tirek, Chrysalis, and Cozy Glow still statues by this time? If they haven't been destroyed at some point already (which the pegasi of Zephyr Heights likely could have done after the divide, either out of fear of unicorns releasing them or covering up evidence of ponies working together — the biggest instance of which being the fight with this trio — or both), it is possible that the disappearance of magic released them (given Cozy Glow's ritual had broken the "walk on clouds" spell), though if this was the case, they would be powerless and most likely die of old age by G5's time (depending on how immortal Tirek is and whether it depends on magic or Tartarus). Unless the spell was permanent.
At first I and the thread argued against adding for the same reason they were cut from Mouse, the question was not even touched on in the movie itself. They then argued for adding saying " the Ambiguous Situation page and it doesn't say anything about "It needs to be brought up in universe", only "The alternatives need to be reasonable"." It might be valid, but I'm not sure as these don't sound like alternatives as the main thing/issue isn't in the story. I'm taking here for additional thoughts.

I noticed that gorobestboy has heavily altered Sayuri Hara (a page I made by myself), and I noticed that they removed some dots containing certain roles such as Reimi Sugimoto in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Diamond is Unbreakable and Yori in Princess Connect! Re:Dive. While I'd like to put them back, I'm hesitant to do so since I was the one who put it in and I don't want to get into an edit war. Would it be okay to put them back anyway? Also, they didn't provide any Edit Reasons as to why they rearranged the page. Do you need to ask for permission to rearrange the list order in a Creator page?
Edited by Excessive-Menace