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openSelf-Erotic Troping in Crossover War pages
A quick glance at the History of the Fridge page for The TV Tropes Character Crossover War reveals it was created and almost exclusively edited by contributors and writers of the work, including a Troper who was bounced for reasons tied to it. With what I believe to be the majority of edits (at best) coming from writers of the work, should the page be cutlisted or should it be dealt with by deleting the edits of the contributors to bring it back in line with the site's rules on Self-Erotic Troping?
(Forgive me for making an ATT for this, it seems we don't have a thread for Fridge Clean-up where I could've brought this up.)
openRough grammar
stemy has rough grammar— examples:
Some had already been corrected, I fixed the rest, but I checked and there are serious errors in basically every edit they've made, so it seemed worth a report
Edited by Tremmor19openSelf-Demonstrating Fawful page Videogame
So I've noticed someone had already attempted to create the aforementioned Fawful page sometime ago, though it was removed for being too "vanilla". Considering I have an interest in making a page for him (and I feel he firs all 3 of the criterion), would it be safe to create a new section just for him?
(If this is a dumb question I'm sorry lol)
resolved Question regarding recent entries to SundressOfInnocence
The issue I was having is that Dizzleboy added two ZCE examples, which I ratioed, and asked for context.
Instead, he added another example, for Evangelion, which is both inaccurate and seemingly fetishizes the character of Asuka. In her introductory episode, when she's wearing her sundress, she is introduced not as innocent, but as brash, arrogant, and egotistical, as well as self-important. And as I said, the language Dizzleboy uses seems...fetishist.
openNeed second opinion of the existing content of a page I'm going to start contrbuting to
Now that I've started playing Echoes of the Plum Grove, I'm paying more attention to its page. Reading it, I have a nagging feeling that some of its content has no business being on the main page. I'm also afraid of deleting things I shouldn't if I only trust my own judgement. I'm wondering if someone else would be kind enough to give that page a read and tell me what is geniunely out of place, and I'll do the modifications myself when I find the time.
openMadea Film
In the Characters/Madea characters page, the main characters only consist of Madea, Joe, and Cora. No one else. With others like Brian, Mr Brown, Hattie appearing in the other pages, what can I do?
Can moment pages start as Sandbox pages? For example, what if I do a Funny page for I Can Do Bad All By Myself, Madea’s Big Happy Family, A Madea Homecoming, etc and I mention something about Madea and Joe, I’m not sure how many examples are needed?
Edited by LarrytheKingopenCommented-out note problems
So I've just caught up on Raise Your Voice Against Liars and decided to give its tropes page a long-overdue clean-up. However, when I went in to edit it, I discovered this commented-out note at the top of the page that was apparently added by the authors, the contents of which are making me wary.
Before any more tropes are added here, we feel the need to address something:
Please remember that this AU takes place several months after Miracle Queen, and at the start of the fic, Marinette is still being bullied by Lila and has literally no one helping her besides Luka and Kagami. She's even attempted to commit suicide because of it! It’s what’s called a formative moment for Marinette’s mentality; of course she’s going to change and not be the ‘same Marinette from the show.’
Also, regarding Adrien: we understand he’s going through abuse too, and we agree that such is shitty behavior from Gabriel and Nathalie, but his actions are still his own, and there ARE consequences for them whether they be good or bad! He has barely helped Marinette with Lila, even though he can SEE that Lila is still hurting Marinette! Also, so far in the fic, the Phantom Thieves aren’t completely aware of Adrien’s situation at home. They only know as much as Marinette, Nino, and the other Parisians have told them. Obviously, due to this lack of knowledge, they will treat him in ways that some might consider being too harsh. When/if they actually come to understand what’s really going on in Adrien's home life, chances are they’ll change their tune a little, but right now, in THEIR minds, there’s not really a reason for them to do so. Please keep that in mind when you’re making your edits to this TV Tropes page.
The story itself has pointed out they both had full knowledge of his home life and were completely in the wrong for their continued harsh treatment of him. He deserved consequences for how he handled Lila, but he grew as a person and they knowingly left him in the care of a murderer. Please keep that in mind as well.
I'm well-aware that Adrien's already a controversial character in ML, and that said controversy bled into the fic's reception and then some; I haven't checked the edit history of the page, but I'm getting the distinct feeling there may have been an edit war or two about it. However, well-intentioned or not, this is still basically the author telling others how they have to edit the page, right?
Between that and how it's artificially inflating the page length, is it okay for me to remove this?
Edited by Storygirl000opencan you add a trope? Videogame
Hi! i noticed something really cool during the video game secret of the mimic, Big Top's chase sequence has a few random paths that can be chosen for the chase. i think this randomness is awesome and want to see it added to the awesome section of the secret of the mimic page if that's cool? I'd do it myself but i don't know how to or if i even can, not to mention i don't know tropes very well so i don't even know what trope to put it under. thank you for your time have a nice day
openPotentially inappropriate Troper page?
So, a troper by the name of MissRoboto edited a page I followed, and, checking their page, I found a single folder on it labelled "some of my pet peeve tropes", and its only contents are "none. because i know how to not make a fool of myself on the internet by not whining about stupid gay bullshit." Before this, they also appear to have changed their page to only read "wow this place is a freakshow. i dont respect literally any of you people —Anonymous Neopets forum poster" (link)
. I will be brutally honest and admit I do have my share of qualms regarding certain aspects of this site, but surely this has to be a violation of some policy?
openClockwork Orange Animated Short (18+) Film
Hey, does anyone remember an erotic animated short film from the '70s that was supposedly shown before A Clockwork Orange? I read about it on TV Tropes once but can't find it again—might’ve had a name like Love in the Afternoon or something similar.
If it helps, I vaguely recall it saying something about how Kubrick himself handpicked it as the perfect "cartoon before the main show" for his movie when showing in select cinemas.
It had a real Yellow Submarine meets Fritz the Cat sorta feel to it, psychedelic colours, and of course, graphic sex scenes.
It's really been bothering me that I cant find it anywhere. It was a really wacky deep cut, almost like lost media.
openSpeculative troping on the voice cast
Troper SutairuMasuta has made some edits
on Characters.Final Fantasy Tactics Characters regarding the voice cast, in particular that Jennifer English voiced a character named Ovelia Atkascha. However, I couldn't find any official source that English voiced Ovelia, whether it's on the official announcement
or the game's BTVA page
.
I sent them a notifier about the source and they sent me the announcement trailer
but there still isn't any confirmation that English voiced the character. When I told them about this, they just told me to delete it myself and ask English on social media. This immediately set off alarm bells in my brain so I'm asking here on what should be the best course of action.
resolved William Afton's self-demonstrating page Videogame
Long ago I created a self-demonstrating page for everyone's favorite murderous furry. Said page however was deleted because it was argued in the games Afton had too little lines to warrant his own self-demonstrating page.
Now, I argue we can make another one, mostly thanks to the collab between Five Nights at Freddy's and Dead by Daylight, which gives us a good amount of quotes from Willy and a pretty good idea of what his personality is like. Now I know some people will say "But that's not canon", and while it is true that the collab itself isn't canon (at least to FNAF), it doesn't mean the way he behaves in it isn't: remember everything that was put into this collab had to be approved by Scott Cawthon himself, and seeing how William spoke and acted in Pizzeria Simulator and AR (whose quotes are re-used for the collab) I'd say it's pretty clear that's how Scott imagines William's personality to be like (aka an evil theater kid).
openVideo Games folder in Gondor Calls for Aid
It's not alphabetized compared to the other folders. Is it okay for me to move the folder since it might count as a "big edit"? Just the folder itself, I'm currently busy to alphabetize the contents within.
resolved "See the subpage" vs. crosswicking Live Action TV
~Mariofan 99 removed
two Franchise Original Sin examples from YMMV.Obi Wan Kenobi and replaced it with something to the effect of "See FranchiseOriginalSin.Star Wars". I feel like this practice violates Crosswicking policy (i.e. I'm okay with having a franchise hub subpage but I think examples should still be crosswicked on individual work pages), but since I wrote one of the examples myself, I want a second opinion to avoid edit-warring.
They also failed to actually add the removed example to the subpage.
Edited by StarSwordresolved Theme Parks under No Real Life Examples Please? What's the stance/scope?
So, on some pages under No Real Life Examples, Please! (e.g., Americans Hate Tingle), there is a folder for theme parks, which isn't too bad by itself, but several examples list entire parks (Disneyland Paris, Universal Studios Japan, etc) which are real-life places, so I want to question, does their inclusion violate No Real Life Examples, Please!?
My assumption is that:
- Specific theme park rides within the parks(Haunted Mansion, Small World, Wizarding World of HP, Super Nintendo World, etc)/characters original to theme parks/rides (e.g., Duffy, Figment, Hitchhiking Ghosts, etc) - Fine to add and doesn't violate NRLEP since they're works/characters.
- Theme parks as a whole (like listing Disneyland Paris under Americans Hate Tingle) - Violation of NRLEP since theme parks are real-life locales.
But I understand there is a grey area given the nature of theme parks (not unlike sports), and correct me if I'm wrong.
Edited by Tylerbear12openDid I misinterpret the rules for Useful Notes?
I noticed that UsefulNotes.The Studentenverbindung had a big list of tropes. To my knowledge (I am going off Useful Notes and things I have read about in the Useful Notes cleanup thread
), Useful Notes can have trope lists, but they have to describe media depictions, rather than trope the subject itself.
The Studentenverbindung's trope list seemed to be troping the subject directly, so, on June 11, I made an edit
where I renamed the header from "Tropes associated with Studentenverbindungen" to "Common tropes associated with Studentenverbindungen in fiction", rewrote one example to explicitly discuss media depictions, and removed the other tropes.
The next day, jeez added back the tropes I deleted
and sent me a notifier about misuse. Jeez mostly left the header and example I rewrote alone.
The main question I have is, was I in the wrong? Did I misinterpret something or apply a rule incorrectly? Or was this the right call?
Edited by DieselopenEdit warring over nattery subbullet.
This is a follow-up to another ATT
alerting of a nattery edit in YMMV.The 100 Girlfriends Who Really Really Really Really Really Love You because today I noticed the example is being edit warred.
- [1]
: Huniepop Completionist adds a lone subbullet to the Vanilla Protagonist example that looks like it's arguing with itself.
- digdis makes the ATT
, which is inconclusive aside from reminding that YMMV has no exceptions for the natter and indentation rules.
- [2]
: Rebel Falcon removes the subbullet because examples are not arguable.
- [3]
: Huniepop Completionist adds it back again.
I've sent them a notifier, but what else should be done? I'd also like to reach a conclusion on if Rentarou Aijou counts as a Vanilla Protagonist in the first place.
Edited by animuacidopenPage moves/edits without approval
I made a request here
mentioning that Series.Clarence and WesternAnimation.Clarence should have 1988 and 2014 respectively. I had no response if I can do that move myself or not.
I also made another request here
on Ask The Tropers where a page titled MediaNotes.Hot Ones Actors sounds like an accurate name.

So, while I'm editing the Reverse: 1999 Character page a bit, I saw this commented-out warning:
I feel like the NREP link is misused as it's more about tropes that have mandatory waiting periods. Also, When handling spoiler contents from a game server that is ahead of the other servers, is it disallowed to gatekeep those lore spoilers or refrain from adding anything about new characters once the fan translation is up?