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resolved Fridge Brilliance with Character's AssCaps Style
Can I make a section for "Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse's fridge brilliance
's section with Character's Ass Caps style?
Note: Perhaps if it were allowed, I would give a character's Ass Caps style from another fridge's page.
In order to prevent like I've been happened before
It would look like this (as an example from Wreck-It Ralph - fridge brilliance, of course):
Ralph
- On the topic of Ralph's backstory in his game, there's some brilliance there in itself. Since Ralph is apparently only trying to destroy the apartment because its construction destroyed his home, well,
open"Non-visual" webcomic? Webcomic
So, Webcomic.Bill Nye The Russian Spy is a page.
And it describes itself as a "non-visual" webcomic and the only link is to the text-based Archive of Our Own.
I assume we don't allow fanfics to be in the webcomic namespace if someone calls it a "non-visual webcomic" so I would just move it to fanfic... but honestly, the page is created and maintained by a vandal and troll
so I don't know if that's even valid. Their edits are generally so uniformly detached from reality that I can't in good conscience make a page for this work using their words, and I'm not going to read the fic just to make the move and ensure that their edits are accurate.
Thoughts?
resolved Edit on Jesse Ventura
I noticed that somebody made quite substantial edits on the Wrestling.Jesse Ventura page. Basically, on every mention that Ventura was Governor of Minnesota, "Governor" is replaced with "Premier" (even though the name of the office is Governor) and claims without proof that Ventura is a Canadian citizen (even though he was born in Minnesota). I though about editing it myself, but the changes are so substantial that I thought it would be easier to ask a mod to take a look at it and revert it wholesale, as I don't see any proof of these claims.
openYMMV misuse
- Designated Hero: While Mace Windu isn't without his heroic moments, he has also proven himself to be a bit callous and thoughtless of the feelings of others. In Attack of the Clones, he beheads Jango Fett instead of disarming him and his face afterwards seem to suggest he doesn't care that Jango was a person (though in his defense, he was defending himself), and in The Clone Wars he doesn't apologize or try to explain himself to Boba Fett (and by that point, he knew that Boba saw him behead Jango), instead basically telling him to get over it. Later on in the series, when dealing with Ahsoka, as he ultimately concedes to Tarkin's demands to excommunicate her and then when she proven innocent, rationalizes the whole ordeal as a great trial by the Force that was meant to happen to make her a great Jedi (which, while possible, feels as though he is trying to deflect blame). Lastly, in Revenge of the Sith (despite having treated him cordially through The Clone Wars) he is distrusting and rude to Anakin, giving him orders to spy on Palpatine, someone Anakin viewed as a close friend and mentor for many years, while at the same time openly talking down to Anakin in front of the council and telling Obi-Wan and Yoda that he doesn't trust him behind Anikin's back. For an altruist keeper of the peace, Mace's conduct towards others can feel bit unbecoming at times, making him feel more like a prick who barely cares for others unless if it benefits his cause.
YMMV cannot be downplayed or played with so misuse.
I deleted the original version as someone else removed it
from DesignatedHero.Live Action Films arguing the work treated it as Necessarily Evil rather than ignore the unheroic parts. Should it be removed?
resolved Reporting an Edit War on the ymmv page of Fire Emblem: Three Houses
User Lord Twibill
appears to be attempting an edit war on the YMMV page of Fire Emblem: Three Houses
.
Back in late July they added an example of the game having a broken aesop. I believed their example as-written didn't satisfy the standards of a broken aesop (for one, I don't believe it breaks the aesop at all), so I deleted it, explaining my reasons why in the edit reason.
In response they sent me a VERY long private message explaining their viewpoint, but I got the impression them and I had an irreconcilable interpretation of the game (for one, they view all the characters as being horrible people when without the influence of the player avatar) and that attempting to discuss it over private messages would be a waste of time, so I encouraged them instead to bring it up to public discussion to get more viewpoints than just our own.
They did not do this, and yesterday sent me another pm asking for further discussion. This time I outright told them I thought our reads were irreconcilable and reiterated they should publicly raise a discussion to see how others felt. I then went on to disagree with some of their own interpretations of Fire Emblem: Fates. I criticized the game's morality quite harshly, but I avoided criticizing Lord Twibill themself.
In response to that, they sent me a pair of rather insulting and threatening pms, telling me I was being childish and that they were going to just re-add the example whether I liked it or not, and then threatened me not to delete it again or they'd bring the mods into it. At no point did I find any evidence that Lord Twibill raised a discussion on the accuracy of the example, so I decided to bring the situation up to folks here before things could get any more out of hand.
Edited by RaxisopenPossibly racist part of Hollywood Cuisine?
Here's the part I'm talking about:
- Indian: Tends to be so spicy it burns a hole in the diner's guts (somewhat Truth in Television).
It's the part in parentheses that I'm not sure about; claiming that it's true that Indian food "burns a hole in the diner's guts" doesn't sit well with me. That said, I'm not Indian myself, and I'm aware that the whole trope is about stereotypes.
openAdaptational Badass/Wimp Misuse
Hello all, I had a concern about the use of Adaptational Badass on Baldur's Gate III - Tropes A to E. I've already brought it up in the Is This an Example forum and got one response, which agreed with my points but suggested I get more opinions to be safe. The only Baldur's Gate thread I could find seemed to be dedicated to just discussing the game itself and not the main page's tropes, so I felt uncomfortable posting there and am hoping it'd be acceptable to get opinions here instead.
Additionally, I'm also realizing that Adaptational Wimp sees a lot of the same misuse. I haven't brought that up in the forum, but I'm not sure if I should bother if I'm just going to reiterate my points here.
Even allowing for the flexibility of adding non-character examples to character tropes, "badass" in context of the trope does not mean "added functionality, or different mechanics for the spell to operate under." As Canuck pointed out on the thread, some of these AB examples don't even seem to be more powerful than the tabletop. These tropes seem to be a dumping ground for people to point out the ways in which the video game differs from a tabletop game.
The example on cambions being much more powerful in BG3 than in regular DnD is also just outright false. There is (according to the example itself) a player handbook that lists cambions as potential infernal patrons, so this is not unique to BG3, and outside of Mizora and Raphael (who, again pointed out in the example itself, both have unique reasons to be more powerful than an average cambion) they are depicted as being much less powerful summonable allies.
In a similar manner, the example of Adaptational Wimp for vampire spawn admits that Astarion's siblings match the tabletop version of vampire spawn much closer and that canonically Astarion has unique circumstances to make him weaker/less useful. There is also in-game dialogue acknowledging that most vampire spawn are just as deadly as their masters.
tldr; I want to cut all but the Boo example from Adaptational Badass, and all but the archdruid example from Adaptational Wimp.
Edited by OctoyaopenConcerning Hazbin edit
Under YMMV.Hazbin Hotel, Zardonix made this addition to Base-Breaking Character:
- Season 1's Arc Villain Adam, the first man on Earth and leader of the Exorcists, is the most divisive character in the show for many reasons. Those who love him find him to be a hilarious, cool, yet still threatening adversary for the main cast to face. Others find him to be a flat, one-dimensional villain whose comedic moments are too grating even if intended due to his non-stop swearing and dickishness, which prevents him from being taken seriously even when he's at his most menacing. His non-stop swearing in particular is seen as almost playing into the criticism that detractors make about the Hellaverse overusing swearing and putting it into one character. The decision to make him white has also attracted much criticism. With Eden likely being in the middle east like the rest of the Bible, making Adam white has been pointed out to be an odd decision, especially considering making the first human a white man has some unfortunate implications. While some have tried to justify the choice i.e. His real face supposedly being meant to resembling his va.
Besides coming of as to focused on the complaint side for BBC (which means both side are equally presented), this has baggage concerning enough I'm bringing here.
Would portraying Adam/such an evil and jerkass character as a non-white ethnicity not have issues itself?
Hazbin cleanup is discussing the issue
, suggesting it's a nonissue within the fandom so misuse.
resolved Did I partially edit warred?
I'm concerned that I accidentally committed a partial edit war on Ys X: Nordics
- Here
, I made an edit regarding that game's PC port
- Another troper
reworded it as "With an additional PC port"
- I reverted
part of it so while the rest of the previous troper's edit is intact, I changed the wording back to "along with a PC port"
I have no excuse if I did something wrong so I'm self-reporting.
openClomplainy Edits
Lilybelle
has been making complainy edits related to Disney's Wish (2023). In addition to the edits done to the movie's page itself (a specific example would be this really long Character Shilling example
, they have also edited a Ron the Death Eater entry to include more complaints about main character Asha, bolding the word "many" in "many detractors" and adding in the word "ungrateful".
openPoor punctuation
KiraKiwi410 has a habit of putting spaces before punctuation on wiki pages. Examples can be found here
, here
, and here
. I've taken it upon myself to clean up after them, but they keep doing it. Strangely, they use good punctuation sometimes. I wonder if they're doing it on purpose, it's just a compulsive habit, or they're editing on mobile, as that can sometimes mess up punctuation.
Edit: They've done it again
openI edit warred by mistake.
So, this is a weird. I removed
this from Trivia.Snow White 2025:
- Troubled Production: Despite not having been released yet, this film has been marred by a lot of negative press, mainly having to do with drama both on and off the set that some would perceive as "woke".
- Much of the trouble centered around comments made by and about Rachel Zegler, who was already getting some flak for being non-white actress playing a character who had "skin white as snow." In an interview from the D23 Expo in 2022, Zegler brought up that she'd only seen the original film once and hated it, described the Prince as a "stalker" who would be replaced with a new character named Jonathan (played by Andrew Burnap), and said that Snow White's arc will involve her learning to become a strong leader instead of looking for romance; she also teased the possibility that Jonathan might be written out altogether. Director Marc Webb has also alleged that she'd been hard to work with on set, saying that she mocked him for directing The Amazing Spider-Man and demanded as little screentime with Burnap as possible. These comments and allegations have painted Zegler among detractors as a "spoiled brat" who wants to promote shallow view of feminism that prioritizes power over love.
- Upon the film's announcement, dwarf actor Peter Dinklage denounced the original story as bring "backwards" for its depiction of "seven dwarves living in a cave", prompting Disney to issue a statement that they're working with members of the dwarf community. Dinklage subsequently received criticism from said community, interpreting his comments as him speaking unduly on their behalf and costing them roles. In July 2023, a leaked photo from the set revealed seven stand-in actors of different genders and ethnicities (only one of whom had dwarfism), leading to speculation that the dwarfs would be replaced with seven "creatures" with different magical abilities. The storm died down somewhat when an official "first look" still was released that October, which revealed that the Seven Dwarfs will be in the movie (albeit rendered with CGI).
- When the film was delayed by a full year to March 2025, the 2023 actor and writer strikes were cited as the reason, but insiders speculated that it also had to do with not only the PR fiascoes, but also a ballooning budget and executive wariness over the company's disastrous box-office take in 2023, where even the much-hyped The Little Mermaid (2023) performed below expectations; not counting money saved through U.K. tax rebates, the budget was estimated to be around $330 million, surpassing the alleged one of Avengers: Infinity War, meaning it would have to gross over $500 million just to break even. With Rachel Zegler having since backtracked on her earlier comments, the dwarfs now known to be appearing, and reshoots taking place in mid-2024, it seems to imply that the Disney higher-ups felt they had a sinking ship on their hands and are now doing everything they can to save it.
I removed them because the first two are mostly just complaining and the third one is mostly speculation that I couldn't find any actual concrete information on. Now I still stand by that but then I thought "Hey those looked familair." So, I looked through the history but couldn't find anything. Then I remembered that the page had been cut before for being made before we had a trailer. So, I did some digging and found this post where I claimed to have removed some similar but not identical entries
(to be fair at the time most people agreed that it was misuse).
So, yeah between the page being cut, real life stuff happening since then, and the slightly different entries. I had forgotten that I had done it before. That is no excuse, however, and I would like to report myself.
Edited by BullmanopenDub Induced Plot Hole Question
I tried in the forums and got no answer: Is A really Dub-Induced Plot Hole, REALLY there if the dub was cancelled halfway and it never adapted the parts that would have resulted in the plot hole?
We all know by now not adapting Crocus and Little Garden would create plot holes so huge it was for the best the 4Kids dub of One Piece was cancelled halfway through.
So I think this a kosher example, this isnt an actual example from the page, but put it here so I can add it.:
- In an effort to remove all traces of Enel being G-d, Chopper wonders how can a King be evil and if such a thing is possible in the Cartoon Network broadcast... Ignoring that he suffered under an evil King in his backstory.
And this isnt:
- Plot holes that would have happened if the 4Kids dub lasted longer:
- The Straw Hats' knowing the giant whale Laboon turns out to be the primary reason Brook decides to join them; the 4kids dub ended before he had the chance to appear.
- Meeting the Elbaf Giants, Dorry and Broggy, on Little Garden provided the motivation for Usopp to finally start improving himself. It's also how he convinced the Gatekeeper Giants of Enies Lobby (Season 5) to turn on the World Government and briefly team up with the Straw Hatsnote The giants were former members of the Elbaf Pirate crew. When they were caught by the Marines, the Marines lied that Dorry and Broggy had been caught too, but if the Giants served as Gatekeepers for 100 years, the Marines would let them all go. Learning via Usopp that Dorry and Broggy were just fine and they'd wasted over half a century of their lives made them instant and very angry allies., that later scene didn't show up in the 4kids dub.
openSelf-demonstrating pages?
I posted the old description
for Summer Campy in a "entries that made you laugh" thread, and someone suggested bringing it back as a self-demonstrating page. I would like to do that, but can I just go ahead and make it, or do self-demonstrating pages have to be approved before they can be created?
resolved Cold Duke of the North trope? Literature
Since really getting into Korean webtoons in the last two years, there's a certain character archetype that shows up in like 90% of romantic fantasy novels and I'm surprised it isn't here yet so maybe I've just missed it. Its become so common that people have even made jokes memes about him and different series have started calling the trope out even when playing it straight.
That man is the Cold Duke of the North! He has short black hair cut, red or blue eyes (and if they're red its distinct to either himself or his family), and a love for black clothing with bits of jewelry hanging off. He is also known for being an *incredibly* well-built hunk of man meat and yes we the reader will always see him with his shirt undone or off at some point to make sure we know how stacked he is. Despite appearing emotionless to everyone around him, his heart will thaw usually on first sight when he sees our lovely lady protagonist, who he will remark is "interesting." The guy has a tragic past and a reputation as a cold-hearted butcher of the battlefield, and his northern domain is akin to Winterfell in both temperature and regular monster invasions which he has take point in fending off for the rest of the Empire. His cold demeanor means a significant chunk of the story involves communication problems in the central relationship with the female lead that any normal person could resolve through a five second conversation. Also it means the vast majority of stories starring one of these fellows as the male romantic lead features a contract relationship at the center of it that everyone thinks the female lead is bonkers for entering into because of his fearsome reputation.
Do we not have this a trope that already covers this specific main character archetype?
openSelf-promotion spam?
iandroidchris's (note "chris" in the name) only activity on the site are
- Made Creator.ChristopherKenyattaSese-KhalidJr about themselves
- Made Platform.Iandroidchris, which isn't what the namespace is for
- Literature.The 5 Wealthy Research Topicsand Changesforthe Future, cut for being an untropable stub
- Literature.Wealthy Changesforthe Future, cut for being an untropable stub
- making a massive title request
- Now edit-warring too
I feel he's only here to sell his $35 business books on Amazon
with some incomprehensible content, because a quick look shows Chrisopher has made a page about himself on pretty much every website possible.
resolved Improper namespace
General.Sanctuaryverse has a General/ namespace that I’ve never seen used on any other page. Looking at the page itself, it looks like a Main/ page. EDIT: never mind, there’s already another query about this on the previous page. Disregard.
Edited by loserswithwifiresolved BaseBreakingCharacter EditWar on FFXIV Page. Videogame
Recently Final Fantasy XIV released it's newest expansion, and there has been division about the main focal point character for it, Wuk Lamat. Already people have jumped to adding her as a Base-Breaking Character (someone even put her on The Scrappy about two weeks after the expansion came out before it was removed), despite the expansion only being out for barely a month as of now despite the rules stating otherwise.
Walker B Riley recently added the entry after it was already removed, so I removed it and mentioned how the expansion was new and even if true needs to be discussed first because of how polarizing the subject is, but instead he went ahead and readded it to the YMMV page with the following: "Stop removing her from the list. Wuk Lamat is the single most basebreaking character introduced since Zenos."
Even if the BBC entry is not needing the 6 month period cause its an expansion, they still readded a removed entry without going to discussion. The entry itself is doesn't work well even if it is okay to add her as it is short and barely explains anything: "Wuk Lamat has divided the fanbase in two with her portrayal either praised or hated. The consensus on both sides is she did receive more story involvement that was potentially necessary."
Edited by keyblade333resolved Is it a free action to adopt or overhaul "abandoned" works?
What does one do when a page looked like it was edited by only one troper all throughout its edit history, but said troper doesn't seem to be active anymore, thus the page became abandoned and it's likely difficult to PM that troper for permission or questions due to their inactivity... Can another troper easily "adopt" it or "take over" in editing it significantly to the point where it results in a massive overhaul? Or do I still need to ask specific forums? I'm making this ATT just to be safe.
Specifically, I'd like to add a lot of tropes, examples, or content to a Chinese visual novel titled The Hungry Lamb. Unfortunately, the current TV Tropes page covering it (VisualNovel.Epiao Ming Mo Qianli Xing), has a lot of issues currently (such as the page not using the official English localization, improper formatting, and most importantly, it's currently a stub and still unindexed). Right now, I want to salvage that page instead of letting it be sent to the cutlist for being a stub.
Looking at the edit history
(or its grand total of two edits, specifically), it was only troper Georgankar who made and edited the page, but their last activity on this wiki was 7 weeks ago
.
Initially, I would've wanted to PM Georgankar saying that the Visual Novel's TV Tropes page they created needs several fixes, but at some point, I'm also unsure if it's just better to do all the fixing myself, which includes trying to pass it through the English Localization Cleanup
thread.
Apart from VisualNovel.Epiao Ming Mo Qianli Xing, I had a lot of free time yesterday and found out other works and pages (mostly Referenced by… subpages) that also seemed to be abandoned now but were previously edited by mostly just one troper. Edited by DanteVin

Oopsies.
Edited by AegisP