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resolved Galthran Etruk's Voice Actor Videogame
A while ago the troper Recon Decon listed Lex Lang as the voice actor of Galthran Etruk from Dragon Rage. The problem with this is that all of the voice actors including Lex Lang are of the Unspecified Role Credit variety in the game. I have asked him to provide some sort of evidence to support this claim, but he's provided me with little than a link to a site that requires a membership to see
(I myself can't see it.) and Recon Decon hasn't responded to my messages since the 6th. Can a member to this site check this link and share what evidence is provided to support this claim?
P.S. I have since created a WMG page section dedicated to trying to figure out which voice actor voices which character.
Edited by RonnieR15openCharacter folder using another character's quote instead of the folder subject's own. Film
Over a year ago from now sapphyblue changed the character quote
at the beginning of Mark Hoffman's folder on Saw: Jigsaw and Accomplices (which I was a regular editor at back then).
The original quote was said by Hoffman himself:
For some reason, sapphyblue decided to choose a quote about him by another character instead:
I find this change pretty odd, because not only is it standard for character folders to have quotes said by the character themselves (unless they don't speak at all, at which I think it's acceptable to use a quote from another character describing them), in the current quote Hoffman is being described from the perspective of another character rather than his own, and as someone who knows the context of the films best, I think the original quote did a better job at summarizing Hoffman's own character and his moral conflict with John (that's the theme of both quotes).
I'd like to change the character folder quote back to what it originally was, with a link to this query to avoid making the change look like an Edit War; I was originally responsible for moving the original line from image caption to folder quote, but I didn't write it in the first place, and I don't think reverting a change from over a year ago can easily come off as edit warring (unless it's clear that one of the tropers is deliberately changing things back to their liking, as in a very slow-paced edit war). But what are your thoughts on this issue, and what would you suggest me to do if you don't think switching it back myself is the best option?
openHeavy case of AutoEroticTroping Webcomic
Nixvir is a webcomic created by Aeneas 1 with, to date, a whopping 1162 "related" pages
. Taking a look at them, so far, all the wicks I've seen have been created by the author. To give credit where it's due, the page itself has been edited by other tropers, but is still mainly the work of Aeneas 1. That includes the following very gushy sentence from the description: "What begins as a wacky, childish High Concept becomes an epic story to contend with the likes of Homer and Virgil, a tale of love, religious fanaticism, masculinity and good versus evil..."
Now, obviously there's nothing wrong with making a page for your own work and crosswicking it; however, of the wicks I've looked at, quite a few are shoehorn-y, with a tendency towards using Not a Subversion to get something that's plainly a non-example on the page:
- Subverted in Nixvir where Zanuba instead has a bird with the head of a gnome as her familiar. None of the other witches are depicted as using familiars, anyway.
- Subverted with Lady Metre in Nixvir who wears a sheaf of wheat in her hair, symbolising her role as the goddess of the harvest. In fact, none of the female characters are depicted as wearing flowers in their hair. I guess this might be a straight example, but it's definitely not a subversion, and the last sentence isn't needed.
- The actual year in which Nixvir takes place is never directly given. That is Ambiguous Time Period, not this trope.
Trademark Favorite Food.Webcomics:
- Subverted in Nixvir; Erik is unable to eat, being a snowman, and thus he can never have a favourite food. Mind you, he does have a tolerance for alcohol, but he is never seen favouring it above all other drinks. Justified, in that perhaps favourite food or drink, even if he were able to eat, would not be a priority for him. So... it's an aversion, then.
They also have some wicks that, while not factually inaccurate, are wildly gushy, for example the entry on ShownTheirWork.Web Comics (not going to quote it here for length, but it contains phrases like "is very well researched" and "The author studied Classical Studies and English Literature at King's College London [...], and it shows".) Remember, this entry was made by the comic's creator.
They have also been linking their comic in a bunch of Quotes pages, image links pages, and Referenced by….
They have two other webcomics on the wiki, Ragnar: The Prelude to Nixvir and Perekrin Penkrin A Day In The Life. The latter hardly has any wicks so far, but I checked a couple of the wicks of the first one, and it seems to have a similar problem of shoehorned examples.
Edited by DoktorvonEurotrashresolved Somebody turned a proper wick into a disambig wick
Few days ago on WhatCouldHaveBeen.Hololive (as seen on this edit
), a troper somehow changed the Franchise.Devil May Cry wick into VideoGame.Devil May Cry... which doesn't make sense because the Franchise one is already the proper wick that doesn't need fixing or changing at all, while the VideoGame one creates a green wick that leads to a disambig page.
I'm making this ATT just to be safe, because I originally used the Franchise wick before on that example, and changing it back myself might somehow make others think it's an edit war. Also, this is the first time I've ever seen a troper turn a blue wick into a green disambig wick, and I'm not sure if it was intentional or accidental.
openEdit war about a Plot Hole entry in Final Destination: Bloodies
Troper joaquinthehour removed the Plot Hole entry I put into Film.Final Destination Bloodlines yesterday with no edit reason:
- Plot Hole: As it turns out, Erik is not biologically related to Iris, meaning that he should be safe from being targeted by Death. This is seemingly confirmed when he survives the fire at the tattoo shop and Julia is instead the first of Howard's children to die. While it does makes sense that Death later targets Erik in the hospital for interfering with its design due to him trying to save Bobby, it doesn't explain Erik's incident at the tattoo shop if he wasn't originally on Death's list nor why the man with hooks wasn't added to the list after trying to help save Nora Carpenter from the second movie. This is made more glaring considering Death doesn't bother to go after any of the in-laws. One explanation could be that Erik's freak accident in the tattoo shop was just that; a genuine accident where Death wasn't actively trying to influence anything itself and the man with hooks was Killed Offscreen after Nora's death or was spared because he only interfered while being oblivious to Death's design. However, since the film never gives any concrete explanation, it's hard to overlook.
The entry fits because it is a small plot hole, but one nonetheless, and it has been expanded upon by other tropes. I placed it back yesterday, but today they removed the entry again with no edit reason. So, I'm taking it to Ask the Tropers.
Edited by MegaJresolved Page attracting drama importation
Due to recent allegations of rape against the content creator in question, the YMMV page for animation reviewer Saberspark has been attracting drama importation and edit disputes between multiple users. The edit history
has the details, but here's a quick summary:
- Jibanyan 641 added the following under Harsher in Hindsight:
- The Jayman 49 rewrote it to this:
- Corporal Pig 22 then added "(falsely)" before "accused" in the previous sentence.
- Blue Blazes then removed "(falsely)" and added "(though he denies the allegations), along with the fact Saber has come under scrutiny for his continued association with Black Gryph0n despite Gabriel currently having several allegations of grooming and child predation against him." after "2025".
- Rise from Your Grave then appended "and says in a response video that he is looking into legal avenues to deal with the situation" after "allegations".
Given all the drama, should this page be temporarily locked? Or is there another path that can be taken?
Edited by themayorofsimpletonresolved Monster Strike needs a lot of help. Videogame
Monster Strike needs help for these reasons:
- Lacks tropes: Monster Strike has tons of characters, and thus a lot of tropes. The problem is there's TOO MANY of them. Just for reference, there's over 140 non-copied impossible+ characters (Impossible/Bakuzetsu/Gouzetsu/Reizetsu), assuming 1 trope for each character, that's still 140 tropes, and that's assuming only 1 trope for each characters and JUST these characters.
- Almost no one's contributing: for examples, the only contribution I have seen is from myself. Though this isn't much of a surprise because the game's very obscure outside of Japan, and I don't really see any Japanese tropers.
- Needs a split: Monster Strike is a multi media franchise with anime and video game. The problem is there's only the Video game namespace and not the anime.
- Needs extra namespaces: Currently there's only Tear Jerker, Wild Mass Guessing and Laconic namespaces.
- Monst Dictionary (provides backstory and lore for a good chunk of characters): https://dic.xflag.com/monsterstrike/
- Game official YouTube channel (could provide some Words of God and a few tropes): https://youtube.com/@monsterstrike
- Anime official YouTube channel (provides lore and tropes): https://youtube.com/@monst_animation
- Monster Strike wiki (English names and characters without Monst Dic profile): https://monster-strike-enjp.fandom.com/wiki/Monster_Strike_Wiki
resolved Possibly old Cartoon Network show where a female character is burned alive in a bonfire Western Animation
Hey everyone! I’ve been trying for years to figure out if a scene I saw as a kid was real or just a fever dream. I hope someone here can help me identify it.
What I remember:
I watched this episode sometime between 2016 and 2018, but I’m pretty sure the cartoon itself was much older, probably from the early/mid-2000s era (Billy and Mandy, Cow and Chicken, Courage the Cowardly Dog, etc.).
Channel: I’m almost certain it aired on Cartoon Network, but there’s a slight chance it might have been Nickelodeon.
The episode had an extremely dark and disturbing tone. The most vivid memory I have is of a female character (probably human) being thrown into a large bonfire by a group of other characters.
It happened at night, and the fire had huge flames. I distinctly remember her screams — they were loud, desperate, and very unsettling.
After she was burned, the other characters acted like it was normal — they seemed to be celebrating or socializing, totally unbothered.
The visual style was odd — it had low saturation, almost grayish tones. It stood out from typical colorful cartoons.
Art style: I can’t recall exactly, but it felt like something in between the smoother style of Teen Titans (2003) and more exaggerated cartoony animation.
I vaguely recall the girl begging or pleading before being thrown in, but nobody helped her.
What it wasn’t:
I’ve already checked and it’s definitely not: Billy and Mandy, Happy Tree Friends, Superjail!, or Courage the Cowardly Dog.
If this rings any bells, or if anyone remembers something similar, I’d really appreciate any leads — even if it turns out to be a lost episode, a banned scene, or just something obscure.
Thank you guys so much in advance!
Edited by ReconditeBoil434openStrange entries in Life is Strange
Life is Strange has three weird entries on the bottom. The first is a fangame, the second are spiritual successors. Can they be cut?
Unofficial but notable works related to this franchise:
- Love Is Strange, a visual novel with characters from the first game made by Team Rumblebee and released in 2016. It jettisons all the sci-fi and tragic elements to focus purely on the Queer Romance aspects.
- Tell Me Why, released in 2020, a non-series game also developed by DONTNOD, with invokedvery similar themes. Due to having a different publisher it officially takes place in a separate continuity to Life Is Strange... but that hasn't stopped fans of the series from adopting it unofficially as an LIS title.
- Lost Records: Bloom & Rage, expected in early 2025, another non-series game developed (and this time self-published) by Don't Nod. Intended as the start of a new independent IP that draws on the studio's experience of making Life is Strange, again with similar themes but officially unconnected to the LiS universe.
openImage upload help
Does anyone know how to make images in captions not look too wide as demonstrated on the picture bellow (the picture bellow illustrates how I want to make images appear in captions, but I don’t know how, because each time I try myself it fails)

openYack Fest, "Post a random song (one per poster per day)"
On the forum "Post a random song (one per poster per day)". There's a rule that says, for good reason, anyone posting a submission can only make one post per day. this is clearly stated in the Forum rules
"Post one song per poster, per day. This is so the thread doesn't fill up too rapidly."
Now before I posted there I made sure anything I posted would be compliant with the forum rules and familiarised myself with them.
I've just received a PM from troper themayorofsimpleton which states that I did in fact break this forum rule by posting twice on the same day.
With respect, I do not think I did. One posting was made on Sunday evening. The second posting was made on the Monday morning. No previous or subsequent postings were made on either day. Therefore, I was in compliance with the rule copied above. The timestamps on the postings show one was on the 11/5/25 - May 11th - and the second one was on 12/5/25 - May 12th - made approximately 13 hours apart, but on two seperate days.
Could I ask:
Whose time zone are we using to delineate this rule? I work in GMT (well, British Summer time which is GMT +1). Is the forum perhaps using somebody else's time zone as the datum marker? If the default time zone is PST or something that's a long way behind GMT, then maybe it is the case that - inadvertently - I did post twice on the Sunday.
Perhaps the rule at the top of the forum should therefore be clarified -
"Post one song per poster, in any one twenty-four hour period. This is so the thread doesn't fill up too rapidly."
This makes it more objective and therefore less prone to ambiguity?
And yes - I will undertake not to post more than once in any given 24 hour period...
Edited by AgProvopenFolder adding in SongAssociation.
I noticed examples in Song Association are separated under AC's, but I thought folders would be better, and be easy to read. Do I need permission to do this or can I do it myself? I am being careful about what I edit and touch.
Edit: I forgot to state my other question, but are Creators limited? I want to add some record labels. The pages will obviously be within writing standards, but the reason I am asking if there are permissions in pages is due to the Useful Notes fiasco from three months ago, and I don't want to get suspended for doing anything incorrect, so I want to be extra careful of what pages I edit or start here.
Edited by surname4uopenWould the 'LGBT Fanbase' trope go into multiple entries of a franchise without a general YMMV? Anime
Wondering about adding a specific entry for the trope for the YMMV of Magia Record, one of the Madoka spinoffs. Now Madoka itself has a entry for the original anime under the trope, but the YMMV page is for the original anime, not the franchise as a wide, while Record has quite a few specific examples to it. Would there be any issue in adding a specific entry for Record's YMMV about LGBT Fanbase?
resolved New spammer
New troper milobanana
is spamming various pages with gibberish in a way that reads like a spammer and not just a confused newbie troper:
- i AM REA
- the blue man is here
- And whatever this
is.
openCan you edit war with yourself?
I'd just like to make sure it's okay to, having deleted your own entry, re-enter it with slightly different wording? Sorry if this is a bit obvious; I'd just like to make absolutely sure. Thanks.
resolved Help with page? Anime
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Funny/MyDeerFriendNokotan
It's been super long since last edit and i can't fill up the page myself. Can anyone help out?
openSingle troper's vandalism of animated series all from same creator Western Animation
A troper by the name of Bento Boxer Justin Roiland has had a history of vandalizing work pages involving cartoons created by Brazilian animator Pedro Eboli, often adding false information. This includes:
- Claiming his works from Birdo Studio (Oswaldo, Cupcake & Dino: General Services, and Ba Da Bean) were co-produced by Bento Box Entertainment on December 16, 2024
(edit removed January 13, 2025
).
- They added this information to Bento Box's page too on April 19, 2025
. (removed April 24, 2025
)
- They also said Ollie's Pack was animated by Atomic Cartoons, Toon City, and Snipple Animation on April 19, 2025
(removed April 24, 2025
).
- They added this information to Bento Box's page too on April 19, 2025
- Creating a Character Sheet for Cupcake & Dino: General Services full of outright false information on December 17 2024. (page was cut by yours truly)
- Creating a Crosses the Line Twice page for Ollie's Pack once again full of false information and using a page image not actually from the show on February 1, 2025 (has been added to the Cutlist by me again).
- Adding a frankly bizarre and nonsensical, as well as unnecessary, image and caption to the Ollie's Pack Character Sheet photoshopping the characters' heads onto the cast of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia on April 18, 2025
(removed May 8, 2025
).
- Also adding links to that image and new ones to the Image Links for Crosses the Line Twice on May 6, 2025
that appear to go to their Deviantart. (images cut May 8, 2025
).
- Also adding links to that image and new ones to the Image Links for Crosses the Line Twice on May 6, 2025
There are probably other examples, but I think we all get the point (I get the sense they are a ban evader as another troper named Morty 336 Steve 909 made similar vandalizing edits regarding the same shows). And while they do seem to have made a few positive contributions, this frequent vandalism and spreading of misinformation targeting a few specific shows (that all share the same creator, so I have my suspicions here) is very frustrating, especially for people who work on pages for obscure works, like myself. While I am personally of the belief that this user should be banned, I would like to know what other people's opinions on this matter is.
Edited by MagnusForceopenMy formatting is messed up on Poker Face
With season 2 of Poker Face dropping, I'm trying to divvy up the show's character pages into the main characters, the villains and victims of each episode, and the various characters Charlie meets in each episode. However, while I have the main index boxes up on each sub page, they don't quite look right. I've never made boxes like that before, so I don't quite know what to do there.
EDIT: The reason why the rest of the info is still up on the main page is because I wanted the other two set up before I deleted it. I'm willing to edit in the fixes myself if that will be more helpful.
These are the respective pages.
Edited by JacobyInvestigative

Mysticalmagic 483 often edits on the Sonic the Hedgehog pages, and I've found myself having to correct their edits from time to time.
In addition, they have such an obvious shipping bias. They are a fan of the Sonic/Blaze pairing. They are entitled to that opinion, because this is the internet, and everyone is allowed to have their own opinion even if I don't agree with it.
What they AREN'T entitled to is deleting mentions of the Silver/Blaze pairing because it goes against their preferred ship.
Permission to revert these edits?
Edited by deerhornsaresopretty