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Seraphim Swordmaster put the following example in Characters.Firefly:
"* Order Versus Chaos / To Be Lawful or Good: He frequently chooses "Chaos" and "Good" when the option presents itself."
I am sure the To Be Lawful or Good example is misuse and the example sounds as an attempt to break the "No non-canonical Character Alignment examples" rule.
Edited by FighteeropenNo Title Western Animation
On the My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic Non Canon page, the last three entries are for clopfics (sexually explicit MLP:FIM fanfics). Since the new guidelines say no porn on the wiki, does this cover examples from works that don't have a trope page too? Here are the entries in question.
- That Night Atop The Tower
takes Cadence's status as The Woobie and takes it Up To Eleven. How? Celestia reveals to Cadence that, as an Alicorn, she's immortal and will outlive Shining Armor, also revealing Celestia herself suffered the exact same thing. Once Cadence recovers from that bombshell, resolving to remain with Shining Armor, she returns to their bedroom...and is promptly pulled through a mirror by Queen Chrysalis who proceeds to force her to watch as she makes love to Shining Armor right in front of her.
- Hormones
. Spike goes through puberty, and not being able to deal with his urges, eventually ends up raping Winona. Caught in the act by Applejack, he runs home ridden with guilt, knowing that his reputation in town and all his friendships are ruined forever, and hangs himself in the basement. The ending where Twilight finds him is heartbreaking enough, but then few weeks later the author wrote an epilogue about Twi having to deal with the loss, which gets even more depressing.
- The otherwise hilarious fanfic Estrus
has a moment where Fluttershy reveals that her parents were relgious fundamentalists comparable to Margaret White, - prompting a hug from Pinkie Pie - as well as a brief moment where Pinkie wonders if she might be adopted and looks crestfallen - though it only lasts for a split-second, not long enough for Fluttershy to return the hug.
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forum comment. wanted to post reply about new dredd movie, didn't find anything about posting, had to go to the last page of the thread, barely noticed the you are not known text at the bottom (yes i went there specifically because it was the last place to look) made myself known and got "There will be an 'add post' button here in 24 hours." lame, i will probably completely forget the tropish comments I was going to make in response to the first posts at the beginning of the thread. oh and fifthly, where is the contact us link?!
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I started an article today (Yotobi) and wrote some comparisons to The Nostalgia Critic in order to provide a reference that would allow other tropers to get "what this is about". Unfortunately, this resulted in "They have 'popularized' it, but they're not the only ones and it's shoehorning to keep mentioning them in other reviewer pages."
as a justification to cut every reference to TGWTG members in that article. I'm not mad just because it's an article I started myself, but 1) the cutter didn't care about the orphaned sentences making any more sense or not, and 2) the whole "in other reviewer pages" implies this "correction" has been done in other pages. The question is, did I spot a Wiki Vandal or am I in the wrong here?
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Zaptech has taken it upon him/herself to remove all spoiler
tags on the character page for Mistborn: The Original Trilogy. Zaptech calls to mention a precedent set by Fast Eddie, but one's a admin and one isn't.
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Could someone please check if Unsympathetic Protagonist was propose properly? The trope read too much like Designated Hero, without example. One of contributor (Dark Shock Bro) also seem to mess around with this and Bad Writing Index (the only two pages he contribute to).
I must apologize, but I never get myself involve in YKTTW and have no idea how things work there. That being said, searching with Unsympathetic keyword turn up nothing.
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Main.The Oldest Ones In The Book and all of its sub-indicies use BCE and CE instead of BC and AD (because they include tons of non-Western and non-Christian works).
I edited Main.The Oldest Ones In The Book itself to use BCE and CE to be consistent with its own sub-indicies. Consistency makes sense, right? Well Trope Eater reverted my edit with the note "Oh get over it."
Not reverting his revert because I don't want to be accused of edit warring but... it was fine the way it was. Unless Wiki policy states that BCE and CE are "too extreme" and deprecated, I don't see why this was reverted, especially because now the indicies don't match each other, which looks stupid and sloppy.
Edited by ArcadesSabbothopenNo Title
Does anyone think that "Dear boy" itself should be a trope? Such as, situations in which an older individual (usually an older male villain or something) refers to a younger counterpart (often a young hero) as "Dear boy" in various phrases and conversations? It crops up a lot, to the point that "Dear boy" shows up at the end of a few tropes, "Money, dear boy" for example. Just curious to know if anyone thinks that should be a trope, or if it's not enough of a thing to be worth making a page for.
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By the looks of it,the trope Bed Trick only describes itself as being about characters impersonating as someone else in the cast instead as pretending to be anything or anyone. I do believe it should be more comprehensive, it should encompass the entire spectrum of deception -
- "Alice pretends to be X "
- instead of "Alice pretends to be Bob "
- "Alice pretends to be (Alice's sister) (or) a doctor (or) a man to fraudulently coquette Bob into a one night stand".
Thoughts?
Edited by SolipsiopenNo Title Film
Now, I'm working on a Works page for The Condemned, and I know Work Pages Are A Free Launch, but I'm thinking to myself if the work summary I've made is okay or if it has some bashing in it...
The Condemned was a 2007 American action film written and directed by Scott Wiper which takes a different look at the repeated plot of people fighting to the death for everyone to see. However, the look may not be as "perfect" as one may see, considering how they have "10 people fight, 9 people die, you get to watch!" on their poster, and yet much of the movie is filled with people complaining on how this isn't right.
I may need some help with the summary and making it seem presentable if it is.
Edited by Psyga315openNo Title Videogame
Okay, I kinda goofed with something here. I made a new page for a game, Cargo Commander , as seen here:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/CargoCommander
I took a cue from the Prototype2 and thought that putting it in as a Videogame entry was the correct way to do it, but it turns out I've made it difficult to link to, and the stuff like the YMMV page for it doesn't have the Main button. The thing is, I thought it would do redirects automatically, like it did with the Prototype 2 one here, but evidently I was mistaken -
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/Prototype2?from=Main.Prototype2
Could someone please fix this, or better yet, tell me how to fix it myself so I don't screw a page up like this in the future, please?
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Is anyone else kind of annoyed by the self-demonstrating part of the Freudian Slippery Slope? It's human nature to occasionally make a mistake and say something inappropriate, but the writer(s) of the page shoehorn things in almost every other word!
Or am I just being overly critical?
Edited by SgtFrog1openNo Title
Could a mod take a look at LetsPlay.Canned Stoats and its subpages? The article itself is an unindexed stub; more importantly the user smunt vandalized the pages(presumably a sock, as edit history only shows vandalizing the pages). Thanks.
This was brought to my attention when the page was flagged for content evaluations, so could you look in to that as well?
Edited by tdgoodrich1openNo Title
So Moral Event Horizon is YMMV, and it's also stated on the page that a character can't cross it more than once. Okay, so if someone puts a Moral Event Horizon entry on a page, and then later I see it and think to myself "this character crossed it earlier", what is the proper course of action? Normally I would just put the examples next to each other, but Moral Event Horizon is supposed to just be crossed once.
Additionally, I understand that my idea of the Moral Event Horizon requires significantly more series context than the other person's, so I can understand why someone else would disagree with me.
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Hi there! I'm here to report an article of mine that, mind you, I wrote back when I was a way-more-natterholic troper.
The article in question is about an Italian porn comic named Batty And Gay. I wrote that one way before The Second Google Incident, and its presence is now kind of risque. I'm reporting my own article because I remembered I wrote that one before another troper noticed it, in order to avoid discussions like "hey, you got suspended but you're still breaking the rules" despite the article's latest edit of mine being prior to said suspension.
The comic is a witty take on the porn genre, but despite this, nothing can change the fact that it is porn. I wrote the article hoping that other Italian tropers could add something to it, but instead there's only an unfinished stud about something that doesn't belong to the site anyway.
I tried notifying Komodin, but to no avail. I would have deleted the page myself, but it would come off as vandalism, and I know this "looks like a job for" the Five P.
Which also brings me to a second question: given I've also contacted Fighteer for an unrelated issue, the fact neither him nor Komodin ever gave me an answer is making me wonder - did the mods somehow keep my PMs from reaching their inbox for some reason (maybe because I'm annoying)? I'm not mad, I'm just asking.
Thanks in advance for your answers.
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I had reported this troper previously, and have been noticing some questionable edits again from Connor Bible
- he has a sort of Single-Issue Wonk of exagerating the bad qualities of abusive or even simply demanding parental figures.
There's his edits to The Breakfast Club and The Breakfast Club.
Also, he previously was adding a lot of character bashing examples on Juno, and while he's no longer doing that, he added this:
- Ron the Death Eater: There are numerous fanfics that have depicted Vanessa as a Jerkass at best and an abusive Complete Monster at worst.
I wonder if I would be off-base in assuming these are fanfics he wrote himself...
Edit- Bumping because I see they keep editing to this effect.
Edited by JordanopenNo Title Western Animation
Hi there! I'm here to report a potential case of vandalism.
This
is the page history for The Simpsons, an article I fixed myself in the great Nightmare Fuel cleanup. I noticed there was something odd about the length of the "General" section of the article, as it was considerably shorter than I remembered it to be. Then I found a quote in the "Treehouse Of Horror" section that wasn't supposed to be there, namely Sideshow Bob's "Or so I thought" from the "The Bob Next Door" episode in which he tears off his face (long story). The line of dialogue comes from his Internal Monologue during the aforementioned scene, and I can recall the episode was among the examples listed in the article, but now it's not there anymore.
Thing is, I suspect some vandalism has happened, but I can't quite get some clue about what actually happened precisely because I can't explore the (long) page history without getting kind of lost. Anyone want to help me out a little bit with this one?
Thanks in advance, as usual! :-)
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Need to unlock a page. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Tearjerker/XJapan
seems to be locked, and I'm guessing it was so for being rumors about the band itself or something (because I don't even see why it would be locked otherwise).
Petitioning for permission to recreate as being about the band's songs and lives since even Gackt has his own dedicated page on Tear Jerker/Music and, with songs such as Art of Life and Tears and Without You and Jade (and shows like the 1992 On The Verge Of Destruction shows - the last their original bassist played as a member - the 1997 Last Live - the last show before a breakup that lasted for 10 years - and the 2010 Yokohama show - the original bassist came back for what would be one of the last shows of his life) they do deserve a subpage.
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We seem to have a troper with an agenda here. I saw a natter entry by someone named StormKensho, added to an article on my watchlist - Offending the Creator's Own - in the form of a complaint that antisemitism was on the rise, which whether true or not, was not relevant to the entry it was added onto. I sent him a natterfy message, and he sent a PM back saying that he disagreed that the rise of antisemitism was natter.
Wondering if this was a trend, I looked up his edit history and found several natter entries, such as one in The Amazing Atheist that was insulting the character/performer himself, and one in Pandering to the Base which was aimed at insulting a specific branch of Republicans (it was immediately reverted by someone else), and he added an entry in Stop Being Stereotypical that I wasn't sure if it was natter or not, but it also insulted a political group (the Occupy protestors). He also added natter to Glenn Beck (I undid it just now, along with the possibly incorrect entry he was responding to).
In addition to his natter problem, it seems this guy has some sort of political or religious agenda. I don't know what to make of this.
Edited by BonsaiForest

Burzum has a Crowning Moment Of Awesome page. I know that musicians are allowed to have YMMV/crowning/etc. pages, but this is the full content of the page:
Even ignoring my own personal thoughts on everyone involved, it seems to me like putting a Real Life murder on a CMOA page is rather inappropriate and a pretty blatant violation of the Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgement (and the second part is just plain natter). Permission to blank the page?