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openPro Jared RoleEndingMisdemeanor addition Web Original
On Nov 22nd, Ozwald Edswald added the following entry:
"Heidi herself would not escape this trope either. During the controversy many were suspicious of her accusations towards Jerad, feeling that some were baseless or contradicted already existing information. Later on these suspicions proved true and many of Heidi's tweets were revealed to be exaggerations and even outright lies. Then when it was revealed that Heidi had been abusing her husband, her reputation sank even farther than Jared's."
I removed this on the 25th, citing a lack of evidence. I then received a PM from Ozwald with a link to a reddit thread
discussing it, but I do not feel this is enough to warrant the entry since it is very circumstantial points and is saying Heidi's reputation is tanked even though there is no evidence to that. Ozwald readded the entry earlier today.
Just wanted to bring it up here for review since I don't agree it counts.
Edit: I responded to him with a link to this ATT.
Edited by keyblade333openPossible issue with a Polanski YMMV
From YMMV.Chinatown:
- Harsher in Hindsight: The sexual abuse Noah Cross commits within the movie could be seen in a whole new light after attention was brought to a real-life court case implicating Roman Polański himself in something similar. This
article on Cracked explicitly notes the parallels between how Cross gets off scott-free for his crimes and how Polanski himself escaped jail time by fleeing the U.S.note This is technically not quite what happened, as Polanski's tvtropes page attests. Polanski confessed to his crime, and as per a plea bargain accepted to spend time in Chino Prison as part of a psychiatric evaluation. Polanski spent 42 Days in Chino, honouring his part of the plea bargain and was released early as per the recommendation of his probation officer. It was only when Judge Rittenbrand decided to back out of the plea bargain and planned to bring fresh charges that Polanski decided to flee, an action which the prosecutor of that case admitted was a justified response. In other words, unlike Cross whose crime is never unearthed and who does not admit to his crimes, Polanski both admitted to his crime and subjected himself to the justice system, only running when they backed out of the plea bargain.
Is it me or does the justifying note need changing?
Edited by Chabal2openFirst Person Character Profile
Slug39terra
unilaterally changed Deadpool's character section in Characters.Death Battle Season Six to be all first person. Can I request a revert here?
Also can we leave all first-person troping to Self-Demonstrating pages?
Edited by JRads47openMisuses of the POV Cam trope Videogame
So, one thing I have noticed while cleaning up the Video Game pages is that P.O.V. Cam trope is sometimes just stuck onto any game that's played from a first-person perspective. Here's the latest example: Your Toy.
I mean, that's textbook Trope Decay, right? Given its relative prominence (this is like the fifth time I see this, and I am sure doing a wick search will reveal a few more), should we outright amend the trope page itself to clarify that's 'not what it's meant to be about?
The Quiet One (he/him)
openMoving a page to Useful Notes Videogame
A while back (maybe around two or so years ago), in the TLP crash rescue thread, I brought up VideoGame.Game Genie since it lacks trope examples. I said I thought it should be moved to UsefulNotes.Game Genie, since it's a way to tinker with games' code, rather than being a game itself. Only one person responded; Fighteer said he agreed with that idea, but that post wasn't marked as a mod statement (i.e., the post wasn't highlighted in red/pink), so I wasn't sure if I had permission.
Would moving the page to Useful Notes require a TRS thread, or is posting this on ATT enough? VideoGame.Mii was moved to UsefulNotes.Mii earlier this year without TRS, but I don't know if the consensus was gathered on ATT or the forums, so I wasn't sure.
Edit: It looks like VideoGame.Game Shark is in the same boat as VideoGame.Game Genie.
Edited by GastonRabbitopenHelp me find tropes for a Psychopath! Videogame
So there is a character who is really weird, even comical if he wasn't so dangerous. He is not The Sociopath, although he appears to be trying.
The description describes him as follows:
"Alonso Graves is a man disturbed. A former soldier of the Empire, war transformed his soul forever. The disdain and misanthropy within him can only momentarily be silenced by the blood of his former masters. Believing himself now to be a god, he is intent on "freeing" all he can from the shackles of human existence."
In game, Alsonso is the weakest of the "Expert" AI in his game, Anno 1800. He is utterly unpredictable and may declare war if he feels like it, but he is not someone with a Chronic Backstabbing Disorder.
This makes it hard to find proper tropes for him.
Edited by LyefyreopenHow to handle this situation
So, I'm working on a work page for a fanfic and there is a bit of information I don't know how to handle.
A character that died in canon is alive in this story. I asked the author in a PM if this was the case and they told me yes but the incident that killed them in canon instead left them paralyzed from the waist down. However, this isn't stated anywhere in the story itself, as the character hasn't made an appearance, only been mentioned.
How should I handle putting this information in the work page?
openAcademic Paper on Cosmic Horror Story
Friends, I'm currently working on an academic paper myself and as much as I wish they'd allow me to cite this very wiki, they don't. Do you guys know of an academic paper that defines (or at least mentions, really) what a cosmic horror story is, so that I can cite it? Many thanks.
openRWBY recap page Web Original
I was about to add an example in https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/RWBYV7E3AceOperatives
page but first I need someone to check if my example and my grammar is wrong. Here is my example.
- Important Haircut: Implied. During Lock-and-Load Montage, Blake was shown looking at herself touching her hair. The next scene we see Blake with Bob-style hair (and a new outfit) symbolizing her freedom from White Flag.
resolved Possible EditWar on Characters/KingdomHeartsEnemyCreatures Videogame
In January 2019, both Phoenixion and Mattman_the_Storyteller deleted tropes that suggested that Commantis is actually a Brainwashed and Crazy spirit. Both gave edit
reasons
that said, basically, that the game itself gave no evidence to this.
In October, Aurawick added
the tropes back with no edit reason.
Personally, I agree with both Phoenixion and Mattman_the_Storyteller. Looking back, there is no evidence in game for the tropes. But since the tropes were added back without a reason, is this an Edit War?
Edited by SailorTardisopenIs use of personal technological skills to create safe upgrades also a case of Professor Guniea Pig?
Ex- Thanos gave himself Bionics while Apocalypse used Celestial tech to argument himself. Mr. Sinister integrated mutant dna into himself.
Is any upgrades done by a character via methods they developed themselves an example? They all knew what they were doing. And it was perfectly safe. It's just that only they can do it. Do they count ?
Also, Chinese MC inventing pills to speed up training that works perfectly, where should it go ?
Thanks
Edited by FullmetalRenkinjutsushiopen Adventure kinda Anime
There was this guy who wanted to defeat some evil. So, for that he needed to train himself so he used to go to different different people who taught him how to fight and concentrate to defeat the guy. I remember one seen where he was with his master and the master asked him to focus and listen to the water drops falling somewhere. That was the place where they used to train. If anyone knows what I am talking about them please please please let me know.
openFlanderization cleanup?
Is there any forum entry to fix Flanderization entries? I noticed that multiple entries are less about flanderization itself, but adaptations. For example, "Oh yeah, Shadow was totally flanderized"... except he wasn't, this is a different interpretation of the character.
This is also a question how exactly flanderization works in adaptations like anime filler, since there is no source material to adapt for the writers.
This is also a problem I have with Character Exaggeration, as the difference between both appears to be blurry.
Edited by Tomodachiopen Cleaning up and Updating of the Red Hood related YMMV pages Print Comic
Hey everyone, I wanted to ask for help/feedback about what it should be done about the YMMV pages of both Red Hood and the Outlaws and Red Hood YMMV pages. The pages have been ignored for a long while with only a few tropers showing interest in keeping the entries up to date. One of the tropers that have, unfortunately, shows an obvious negative bias against the series and its writer, Scott Lobdell. I find the current state of the pages to be not only unhelpful for anyone interested in checking the series and/or the character and the personal views expressed to be somewhat out of place. I tried to fix the pages a little a while back, trying to be as objective as possible with my edits but I only succeeded in getting myself tangled in an Edit War with the aforementioned troper. Since I don't want the situation to repeat itself, and I'm still not satisfied with the pages' current status, I ask you for some help in improving those pages.
openSomething that bugs me...is it kosher?
So I don't contribute on the Complete Monster or Magnificent Bastard threads, but I do lurk on them from time to time out of curiosity. And I've noticed a lot of times where the Complete Monster thread will start...discussing page images amongst themselves, and then adding the ones they like. This means they're effectively skipping the Image Pickin' process and doing it on their own, and right now they're apparently discussing changing an image
that was already kept by an IP thread.
I don't want to say anything on the thread itself, like I said, I don't post there and I'd rather not go and stir up drama on a thread my biggest contribution to has been to point out when an example was randomly removed by someone. But this doesn't sit well with me, and I'm not sure this thread...as popular and as good at getting consensus as it is... should be able to just skip Image Pickin' and discuss images on their thread itself.
Granted, in this most recent discussion they're acknowledging that the image they want to change has already been voted on and seem willing to get IP consensus as well... it's just unsettling to me that this discussion is happening there at all.
Again, I'm not trying to stir up drama, nor do I want people to get in trouble. It's just been bothering me for a while and I want to know if this is...okay. All love and respect to the people at the thread, ya'll are great, I'm just not sure this image thing you guys are doing is kosher. IP exists for a reason and no other cleanup thread ever just discusses images without the IP process, so...
openQuick question: Self Made Superpowers
Can Self-Made Superpowers include making yourself a Powered Armor or turning yourself into a Cyborg?
openCharacters with multiple profiles
What are the rules for characters who have multiple character profiles across different works set in the same timeline?
For example, Saber has three pages for her main timeline self: for the main visual novel, the direct sequel Fate/hollow ataraxia, and Fate/Zero, which takes place ten years before the VN.
On the other hand, Zero from Mega Man has two profiles: one for his appearance in Mega Man X, and one for Mega Man Zero, which takes place centuries after the X series.
Edited by JRads47openNon-Trope Launching
So, I've wanted to make a new Self-Demonstrating article for a while now, but I haven't found any concrete way to do it. Anyone got any advice for making and launching a page that isn't for tropes?
openNote mark up covered with spoiler
I think it should be forbidden since it's impossible to show it, clicking on "Note" simply cover text again.
Try it yourself, the first entry on Glass (2019) has note markup in the middle of spoiler.
But Handling Spoilers say nothing about this issue.
Edited by Kuruni

A bit confused about All Gays are Promiscuous since examples were taken out from Hazbin Hotel and the trope page itself.
Is this trope basically about a gay character who is promiscuous? Several examples on the trope page itself, it's laconic, and playing with page seem to suggest so.
Really confused since the Hazbin Hotel examples were removed basically on the reason that of the 3 gay characters in the show, only 1 of them is promiscuous while the other 2 aren't therefore it doesn't qualify as this trope. If so, what about the other examples in the trope page which lists works with both promiscuous and non-promiscuous gay characters?
Edited by Elfkaiser