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open A complaint about the LGBT Tropes page
Hi. I’ve been reading through your info on bad LGBT tropes As a butch lesbian, the info on the Butch Lesbians trope is honestly incredibly lesbophobic. I get what the author of that trope entry was trying to say. But their impression is entirely false. There’s literally no way for a lesbian relationship to appear heterosexual. A butch lesbian is a lesbian, regardless of how the lesbian who she dates and how she presents herself. Please change that. All that trope entry does is harm lesbians making future media that want to include butch lesbians more. Accepting lesbians fully doesn’t involve only respecting the conventionally pretty femme lesbian couples. It also involves respecting butch lesbians and butch lesbians who date femme lesbians. We don’t need more people spreading the lesbophobic stereotype that butch lesbians are secretly straight men. Can you please remove that?
openTropes about replication
Me's a Crowd and Self-Duplication are both about the same thing—that is, self-replication. Would a TRS article about this work?
open Complain-y edit on Twitter Web Original
With Twitter now doubled their character count to some users (I havn't have that yet as of 2017/10/01), as I was editing the page to tweak out the recent edit from a user named reterusu, I left out this part out of reluctance to remove it and had to consult to you guys about it first:
I think it's more of a Broken Base than a metaphorical shark jump for having 280 characters, (I myself kinda like that idea. 280 is more than enough to add more tags.) but I'll let you think about it more. I intentionally left that sentence because I thought to myself that removing that might start a potential Edit War.
EDIT: Changed some instances of "this troper" to "I to avoid confusion.
EDIT 2: I wasn't being clear here. My bad. The 'this troper' to 'I' edit" was for this thread only.
Edited by alnair20aug93openAn Artical Possibly in a Wrong Namespace Webcomic
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Victory Fire
I recently had come across this comic on the internet, but since I'm a new reader, I have no idea if this webcomic has any history pre-2012 (like if it started as a Fan Fic and then became a webcomic). So my question is this: Is this article possibly in the wrong namespace? If it is, then this article belongs the Webcomics namespace. Also I'm a novice, so I'm not comfortable trying to move pages by myself currently.
open616 Print Comic
In several pages, when people talk about comics from Marvel Comics, there's a usual need to set apart the stuff from alternate universes from the "main", non-alternate, universe. And so, they use "Earth-616" to make reference to the main universe. There are 2 problems with that. First, it is a terminology that is not self-evident in the meaning, and only hardcore fans would understand. And second, it is only used by the fandom, the actual creators despise it and very rarely use it. So even a devoted fan of Marvel Comics, who reads all the comics but does not go around forums and online discussions, would find the term "Earth 616" a bit weird. Tom Brevoort, who despises the term, even used the Secret Wars crossover to give creators some last months to use it if they wanted, and then established the term "The Prime Earth". See here
.
“I can tell you for sure that those of us actually working on the books virtually never use the term — and I kind of wince inside whenever I hear somebody use it. It just sounds so stupid to my ear, and so counter to the kind of mindset we try to foster in regard to the stories we create and the thinking we try to employ.” – Marvel Executive Editor, Tom Brevoort
“I never use it, I hate the term pure and simple and agree with Tom’s assessment of it. I can’t remember ever hearing it in the office and only really see it used online for the most part. I think the term really came into vogue when the Ultimate Universe came into prominence, but in my world, the language and distinctions are simple, there is the Marvel Universe and the Ultimate Universe. Anything other than that reeks of all that DC Earth 1, Earth 2, Earth Prime stuff which I’ve never really taken to, but then again, I got into DC when they got rid of all that stuff so it was from and for a different era than my own.” – Marvel Chief Creative Officer, Joe Quesada
So, what if we remove the references to "Earth-616" and replace them with more natural terms?
openLinking on the Wiki to Archives of Cut Pages
I'm not sure about whether this is kosher or not (or addressed in policy somewhere), so I'm bringing it here.
Augusto added an archive link to Rational Wiki that leads to an archive of our old Conservapedia page. (Courtesy Links: Rational Wiki history,
archived page,
and Augusto's history
)
The page was cut via the Website clean-up project (link to the call to cut
).
I would think that this is circumventing the cut.
To be clear, I'm saying that:
- A page was cut via consensus of the websites clean-up thread.
- The page was archived.
(Not itself an issue, imo.)
- The archive is linked to on this Wiki, despite this Wiki having consensus to cut the page.
- This seems to be equivalent to restoring the page, since it's available through a page on the Wiki proper. (Hence my saying it seems to "circumvent the cut.")
idk what do y'all think. Is that kosher or otherwise okay?
Edited by WaterBlapopenFolder Numbers
What's the wiki's approach to the naming of folders that use numbers: for example, "Folder 1" or "Folder One"?
The reason I asked is because, on the RWBY Nightmare Fuel page
a while back, Running_Gag suddenly changed a group of folders from spelling out the number ("One") to the number itself ("1"). There was no edit reason, so the edit was reverted by Zaptech, using the following edit reason:
General English grammar rule: Unless its an official or technical document, numerical amounts under the value of 100 should be spelled out. Under 1,000 can use numbers or be spelled out depending on how formal and/or technical you're being. Once you get past 1,000, then you can use the numbers.
The12th Doctor has just reverted the folders back to the numerical style (Folder 1), without an edit reason.
Since this seems to be an issue, what's the correct approach?
openDifficulty Figuring Out a Trope Web Original
I have an entry I want to add to In Spite of a Nail but I wasn't sure it counted, due to having a bit of an Entry Pimp habit when it's a series I like a lot, so I'm trying to get it vetted. I haven't had any luck in Trope Talk, either with the Is This an Example Thread or a dedicated thread
on the matter, so I thought I'd try here.
I've only gotten one response on the matter, from Fighteer
, who said that the two worlds/timelines involved seemed to different than was normally allowed under the trope. The question I've been pondering since is, isn't that the point? My understanding of the trope is that despite the differences involved between two universes or real life and the fictional setting, certain significant events still occur more or less the same? I've gone through a few versions, but this is the most recent version of the entry.
Any and all help is appreciated.
- In the Red Panda Adventures episode "The World Next Door" and its Sequel Episode, "A Dish Best Served Cold" a time traveler from an Alternate Timeline's World War II named Baboon McSmoothie convinces the Depression era Red Panda to help him steal the prototype of an invention that would one day become a major part of the Nazi war effort by offering him the case file of a Villain Team-Up that killed his Red Panda's Flying Squirrel. It's noted in-universe that there are enough differences between the two worlds, such as the Red Panda's costume being different, the alternate Flying Squirrel being a teenage boy instead of an adult woman, and three out of five members of the Villain Team-Up being either Gender Flipped or having different identities entirely, that neither the Red Panda nor McSmoothie are sure how much, if any, of the file's information will be relevant. Despite these differences, the conference the prototype was to be displayed at, the Villain Team-Up, and eventually World War II itself, all occur across both timelines. The conference in particular is part of the reason the main universe was picked for McSmoothie's heist in the first place, besides avoiding a Temporal Paradox.
openName changing Web Original
Dravencour changed all spellings of "Freeza" to "Frieza" in Characters.Dragon Ball Z Abridged Movies. His name is officially spelled "Freeza" in this series, a point stressed multiple times. There are far too many examples for me to correct myself, can a mod please revert the changes?
openMy Hero Academia Recap Anime
The anime My Hero Academia, in spite of being an anime that follows a detailed plot lacks a recap page. Can someone construct the page itself with other's adding to it progressively?
openChanging old films
Do we need Orwellian Retcon and George Lucas Altered Version to be different tropes?. Both are about making changes to older works, not simply in canon (that's a retcon) but actually modifying the copies of the work itself. But one seems to be about making changes with an agenda, and the other for mere changes to make things look better. I think that's too little, perhaps both should be merged into a single one.
openArthur Election Episode Western Animation
Does this entry from FunnyAneurysmMoment.Western Animation (not written by me) break the Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgment? I haven't touched it because I don't have neutral views on how the election turned out.
- The Arthur episode "The Election"
is about a mock election that Arthur's third grade class holds as they learn about the American government. Muffy is an ambitious female candidate with Power Hair, Arthur is a down-to-earth candidate who wants to help people out, and Binky is a self-aggrandizing Cloud Cuckoolander candidate with unfeasible ideas who somehow wins the election. Fifteen years after this first aired, it comes across as an uncanny prophecy for the 2016 U.S. presidential election, with Muffy as Hillary Clinton, Arthur as Bernie Sanders, and Binky as Donald Trump.
openListing Tropes On A Creator's Page That Have Examples On Other Pages
When I was trying to put a trope on Stephen Sondheim's page and I had examples to boot, a troper had taken it down because the examples already had the trope listed in their own example lists and that "the example list on the creator page is only for examples that don't have anywhere else to go." I was unable to find examples on the site that weren't already on the work's page itself. However, if this trope has appeared in a number of the creator's works (5+), shouldn't it be acceptable to put that trope on the creator's page? I was just curious to see how this worked so that I know properly for next time. Hope you have a good day.
Edited by SeptimusHeapopenSelf-demonstrating - flipping the bird
Piterpicher made a self-demonstrating page for Flipping the Bird, although all it contains is ASCII art of said hand gesture. Is this kosher?
Edited by Tenma-YuukiopenBadass Decay on YMMV/Sonic Forces Videogame
This trope was originally removed from YMMV.SonicForces as it "now argues with itself", but people keep adding it back in:
- Badass Decay: Silver's been hit hard with this. The guy who can handle Iblis, more than capable of killing Sonic and his powers are strong enough to the point where he can compress tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of pounds of cars and debris into a massive ball...can't handle a few Death Egg Robots.
Silver: "Hurry, Sonic! We can keep them in check, but not for long."
Should I remove it again?
Edited by BSonirachiopenTheirself or themself?
I'm doing a mass edit on the Soul Nomad & the World Eaters page to change most of the pronouns for Revya, a character who can be either male or female, to "they" or "them" from "he/she" or "him/her". However, I'm unsure of what to do with "him/herself". Do either of the above work or is there better word to put in it's place?
Also, is "they" or "them" preferable to "he/she" or "him/her"? What exactly is the policy for characters whose gender can be chosen and don't have default options?
Edited by AkoSiKuya23

I've tried to upload a profile image for myself. I've managed to upload a bunch of images but I can't get any of them to be my profile image.