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openUniversalPerson
Tropers.Universal Person is having issues with ZC Es, indentation, spoilers,and he's put two tropes in one line. I'm in the process of fixing some of their edits, but it's taking a while to either fill them in properly. About the spoilers; they have spoiler'd out the entire entry aside from the trope itself.
openYMMV scales on sub-bullet point
A work I enjoy has two Wham Episodes. One was already mentioned, so I was going to add the second as a sub-bullet.
However, when I previewed the page, there were scales next to my example, but not on the original bullet point (or even on the sub-bullet point above mine). Furthermore, Wham Episode isn't listed on the Home Page for YMMV, nor does the trope itself say anything in the description, so I'm not sure why there would be scales at all.
Edited by TsunobaopenA little confused about the use of fan-speak tropes
The one I specifically used in an article is Kuudere, but then I checked the page itself and saw the whole thing about fan-speak and referring to the Sugar-and-Ice Personality trope. Am I supposed to use Sugar-and-Ice Personality instead or can I keep Kuudere?
Edited by AkoSiKuya23openTroper displaying some editing problems
Tropers.One Punch has a problem with Natter. From his edit on Akame ga Kill! - The Jaegers:
They also display some minor grammar and indentation problems.
Edited by JRads47openIs Brokeback Mountain an example of Gay Cowboy?
The way both the trope itself and film page mention that they are bi and Shephards and not Cowboys seems to read they aren't. Don't know if there's a certain criteria to fit the trope.
Edited by WhirlRXopen Hey, I'm pretty much completely new here..., Literature
So where do I go to learn how to properly formatted page, because I noticed that a certain franchise, and I'm a decent fan of doesn't have a page on this wiki at all... and I would like to change that, but I don't want to break any rules or get myself in trouble simply due to being a complete newbie.
openA Review Series that Doesn't Exist and some Possible Self-Promotion Web Original
There is a review series called Movie Dorkness on Agony Booth. The page for it, however, was littered with some references to a so-called ascended fanboy called the "Professor Detective". According to the edits, this person has their own review show and is a fan of the host of Movie Dorkness, and indeed, there's a page for said show. Only the show doesn't exist. The page for Professor Detective mentions a You Tube account, but I found no videos by any user under that name. It mentions a Tumblr, but I found no such Tumblr bearing that name. And to top it all off, the edits done to both pages were done by a user named Professor Detective. I edited out some mentions of the person in the Trivia page for Movie Dorkness, but I'm wondering if this is possible some kind of self-promotion for some anonymous troper?
Edited by AdricDePsychoopenZCE issue
InterestingCarSalesman added a list of entries to AwesomeMusic.Marvel Cinematic Universe consisting solely of weblinks. I commented them out for falling afoul of the Zero-Context Example and Weblinks Are Not Examples policies. They then uncommented them without expanding them with the edit reason "Don't be a dick. Rather than blanking them out, why not just fill them in yourself?" Which rather seems to miss the point of why the ZCE policy exists.
openStrawmanHasAPoint
Stranrep has re-added an example about Kingdom Come to Strawman Has a Point without comment or discussion.
This example is one that's been heavily edited and deleted multiple times over, presumably because the work itself is actually pretty heavy on Both Sides Have a Point. Neither side is clearly defined as purely right or purely wrong, and the ending heavily argues that Taking a Third Option is the only way for the inherent problems NOT to end in total tragedy.
Edited by KingZealopenWhat should I do? Videogame
Troper Wolf Thunder readded the word more after I removed it from YMMV Super Mario Odyssey
despite the fact that "much more funnier" is redundant.
Should I let someone else remove it or do it myself?
openIs there a preference for Last Name or First Name Basis in articles?
I discovered the Interviews with Monster Girls article today and made a couple edits. While I did, I took notice that the article generally refers to characters by their first names. Not a big issue in and of itself except that in-story, unless the anime (which I've not yet watched) does it differently, the characters are generally referred to on a Last-Name Basis (since w're dealing with teachers and students in a Japanese school). There's a couple of exceptions but they're just that, exceptions.
My instinct was to swap the names out to reflect what's used in-story, in the feeling that using the names the show itself doesn't is needlessly confusing. But given the kind of change that would make is fairly big I thought I'd ask before I went to town.
openCreator.AdamWest - self-demonstrating?
I just noticed that Adam West is written in the first person. I assume the point is to make it self-demonstrating, it's just that I can't really see that it demonstrates anything interesting. I'm not really familiar with Adam West so I can't tell how well it fits his voice, but is there really any point in it being self-demonstrating?
open A ScrewYourself subversion?
A bit unsure of a certain case of Screw Yourself that I think I may need others' opinions on.
There is a society made up of clones of the exact same person. A number of them are in relationships with each other, some of which are even happily married to one another.
That being said, all of them are completely naive about actual sex. Even a clone who is literally married to another is naive about sex. As such, clone relationships are at simplest just lovey dovey without any actual sex involved since they're all naive on the subject. Basically Screw Yourself but without the screwing?
So with that being the case, is this case a subversion of Screw Yourself in any degree? Kinda confused on what to do. It would technically not be a subversion in the slightest since it's still intimacy regardless if there is actual sex or not. However, the Screw Yourself trope description and most of its examples from a quick look involve sex to some degree thus making me kinda confused on what to do.
Thank you in advance.
openFetishFuel
Do we still collect Fetish Fuel examples on YMMV pages? I know there's a warning about not collecting examples on the actual trope page itself, but does that apply to work pages as well? It has a lot of 'related' links, so I can't figure it out just by looking at the trope page.
Edited by WyldchyldopenBiased Troper (only in regards to Paper Mario, though) Videogame
DarkChirano
seems to have a hateboner for the recent entries of Paper Mario (that is to say, Sticker Star and Color Splash), often being quick to put in information that, while factual, attacks the game, or being biased on the YMMV pages. Although some of it is older, almost all of it is out against the games:
- From early 2016, calling Sticker Star an Obvious Beta for interesting reasons:
Obvious Beta: While the game doesn't suffer any intrinsic technical issues, several basic features such as a secondary stat/meter (which actually was in a beta) or a unique reward type for defeating enemies are not present. Action Command prompts are also missing in action, meaning the player won't know Things have action commands. The programming behind Kersti's advice is also incredibly simplistic, only giving advice by activated event flags, compared to the first two Paper Mario's guides giving advice by the room. This may have to do with the developers scrapping the game twice.
- Attacking the current developers (who made the aforementioned games) as well as producer Kensuke Tanabe on YMMV.Paper Mario (bolded is what they added):
Worse still, some interviews have stated that they've handed over the reigns of the "Mario RPG" completely to the Mario And Luigi series, so there are some serious concerns that, as long as the creative team of the eighth gen games stay in charge, the dork age will literally never end.As has been explained many times, the Toad species have become The Scrappy to the Paper Mario fanbase due to an overabundance of generic Toads with no unique names and no real differences beyond colours or certain outfits. In addition, Toads are almost the only NPCs in both Sticker Star and Color Splash, greatly contrasting with the sheer variety of NPCs that the previous games had. This isn't helped by producer Kensuke Tanabe thinking Toads are the only usable friendly species, nor the fact the other current producers and directors also believe this to be true.
- Adding in more hate for Tanabe as well as the devs on YMMV.Paper Mario Color Splash (once again, bold is a new addition):
An interview
with Kensuke Tanabe revealed that Miyamoto was responsible for the lack of original characters, which was one of the major complaints about the game. However, this same interview also revealed Tanabe went to Miyamoto near-immediately after becoming producer for Color Splash, rather than Miyamoto coming to him. There's also the detail he never mentioned trying to negotiate the character restriction down, even if he couldn't outright say "No".
Risa Tabata also got a fair bit of scorn, getting the same treatment as Miyamoto. This is mainly thanks to the infamous interview with GameXplain, where most answers were either really vague such as "I don’t know if I want to say a proper story–but we have a story" or saying that since there's Mario & Luigi, there's "no need for RPG elements", which caused a massive Internet Backdraft. But at the end of the day, she's simply an assistant producer and not the lead developer, and thus she doesn't deserve some of the hatred she got beyond that interview. It's also worth stating she's mentioned Tanabe's influence a few times.The game itself started development very shortly after the release of Sticker Star, so by the time fans began savaging the revamped gameplay style, Intelligent Systems had put too much work into Color Splash to scrap it and start over. Of course, that in turn leads to the question of post-release patches for mechanic tweaks, such as the ScrappyMechanics mentioned below. - Pointing out that almost every character introduced in Sticker Star "doesn't actually have a name-name" on Characters.Paper Mario and calling it ironic that there are only 5 Toads in Color Splash with real names.
- As stated by lalalei2001, blaming Kensuke Tanabe and Rise Tabata for the whole "making Mario & Luigi the de-facto Mario RPG series" mess on YMMV.Mario And Luigi.
- Continuing the hatred of Tanabe and claiming that he thinks Toads are the only friendly species from the main series on Critical Research Failure.
* The reason why the 8th gen Paper Mario games only have Toads as a recurring friendly species is because producer Kensuke Tanabe thinks they're the only allies Mario has in the main series, and has encouraged his fellow staff to think likewise. Even a quick glance towards early gameplay of several main series games quickly demonstrate the utter falsehood of this belief, with species such as Piantas, Nokis, Jibberjays and Whittles, among many others.
However, their non-Paper Mario related edits seem to have been made by a reasonable person, so I'm not sure what's up, which is why I brought it here.
Edited by MegaMarioManopenPutting entries about your own content on Funny Moments pages
I'm not asking this because I want to put an entry about something I made on a page, but because someone else did. On the M-Z section of the YouTube Poop Funny Moments page, a troper named Robot Chao (who I'm concerned is a budding Small Name, Big Ego, hence I'm hesitating to interact with him) added a moment relating to some YTP he made himself.
I'm just not sure what to do about it so I went here. Should this guy's entry about his own video on the page be removed? Left alone? Should someone ask him about it?
Edited by kablammin45openSuper Complaint Edit on So Bad Its Good Anime
- Anata To Scandal has some golden moments here and there but it's problem is that the story doesn't seem to know what it wants to be. Tomoka is your Ordinary High-School Student piano genius who sees a Bishōnen every day on the train to school and has fallen in love with him. One day her friends notice that this crush has gone to Stalker with a Crush levels as she has brought a camera to school and is going to secretly take a picture next time she sees him. That afternoon a man gropes her and she's saved by another Bishōnen in front of her crush and after police arrest the man and the boys leave on the next train she takes a picture of her crush. Later she goes to a party and the boys are members of the band playing there. They recognize her and stamp her a pervert, she gets drunk, and finds out that her crush is in fact a Bifauxnen, but her feelings doesn't disappear and her Childhood Friend falls in love with her. So our now Bi The Way heroine finds the thought of others being lesbian gross yet still has no problem being one herself. The other band members fall for her making it an awkward Love Dodecahedron. The Bifauxnen is seemingly asexual, but starts falling for her twice as old fiance after he kept her captive for a few days. It keeps on going back on forth whether it wants to be a Yuri Genre or not making it a mess of Unfortunate Implications that unintentionally Crosses the Line Twice that one might keep on reading wondering "how will this mess end?!". Tomoka herself is an unlikeable character who is supposed to be a Spoiled Sweet character but ends up with a weird mix of wangst and gayngst and is seemingly a Sociopath.
This is definitely not a kosher edit... OR IS IT? Because as its stands is REALLY whiny and not what the trope is about at all.
openThe Roleplay Glowfic page
Glowfic (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Roleplay/Glowfic)
is relatively obscure but really really fun and I want to get the tvtropes page for it up to par - how do I go about finding people who are interested in helping me? (I can explain things about it and stuff and get examples of tropes but am not so good at trying to edit the page itself.)

Here's one doubt that has been bothering me and may be relevant to editors of multiple wikis:
Say you added a bunch of info in another wiki about some subject or another you have knowledge of, off the top of your head etc, and one day, you come here and add it to tvtropes, VERBATIM, now that an article about it has been created (or you are the one creating it...) Think about crosswicking stuff in multiple sites.
Would that be a problem? I know that once you post something online, is not "your info" anymore, but self-plagiarism seems a bit okay to me, if somewhat hard to prove.
Edited by TrollBrutal