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openMy first question
Why is the trope "Stronger Than They Look" got remove? Is it because it's offensive to the users or trope itself?
Edited by SeptimusHeapopenStill can't find uploaded images...
So a few months back, I was asking about why the images I've recently been uploading aren't showing up when I search for the images that I personally uploaded and I'm noticing that nothing is getting resolved.
Yesterday, I uploaded an image of Phantom Girl from the Legion of Super Heroes show to have on the Characters page and just today, I uploaded a picture for the Revolution (2016) Work page and I can't find either or on the list of personally uploaded images that one finds when he/she searches him/herself in the Search by Tropers search engine in the Images List.
Is this problem happening with anyone else or is it just me? Because frankly, I'm getting worried.
Edited by TargetmasterJoeopenSnapshotOfASoul and Openness
There are a lot of problems with this page
and its accompanying Trivia and YMMV pages (ZC Es, tropes on wrong page, putting Main/ in front of all of the tropes, and editing their own YMMV page, for starters), but the creator and sole editor, SnapshotOfASoul
just seems a little too...personal.
Like on the YMMV page:
- Author Phobia:
- The director will often go out of his way to imply sexual abuse instead of overtly show it as it happens to avoid triggering himself.
Calling himself the director and it being on the wrong page aside, that doesn't seem like the kind of thing that should be on any page, Trivia or not.
Edited by ArctimonopenHu.Cloverfield?
Does anyone know what this page
is about? Putting it through a Google Translate reveals it's a one-sentence summary of the film itself (insofar as I can tell with Translate) ending with the words 'good start'.
openSo-called "complaining" about prehistoric life
There's a user named Magnus Force who goes around on paleontology-related tropes like Artistic License – Paleontology and Ptero Soarer and complains in the discussion page about the examples being complainy, and he removed the pterosaur example from Informed Species (which I re-added) for the same reason.
Thing is, these examples don't come across as complainy, at least not to me, any more than the other tropes pointing out biological inaccuracies. (Like Artistic License – Ornithology and Somewhere, a Herpetologist Is Crying.) Then again, I'm a paleo fan myself, so I'm not sure if I count.
So, what do you think? Does Magnus Force actually have a point, or is he just being nitpicky?
open Accidental deletion. Videogame
Someone accidentally deleted a large portion of Fate/Grand Order: Assassins. I fix it myself but I can't do it on my tablet.
Edited by WhirlRXopen I can't find this show!
I seriously have never stopped asking myself if I'll ever find this show and it's killing me. The memory keeps replaying inside my head. Please help me find this! Oh and bare with me because this was a long time ago and my memory isn't very good.
So I think it starts off with the title that were the names of the two guys that were in the show. They were bestfriends I assume. So, then they were walking late at night together I think. And they got into a fight. So, this is where they probably thoughy the audience knew it was a comedy when I thought it was exactly the opposite. It was pure dumb and weird, but I'll admit it was silly. Anyways, one of them got the other weak and slumped up against the fence with blood on his face. And to finish it off, he does the weirdest action I have ever seen. He jabs his hand right into the other's chest and pulls out his once beating heart. And when I thought that it couldn't get any crazier, I was definitely wrong. He then puts the heart against his lips and takes a bite out of it! Then he throws it at the man below him who was looking at him in shock. Yes, somehow he was still alive. They even had a funeral afterwards and his "best friend" came too. The man that was now "dead" was in his coffin but he was sitting up. Whenever they switched the camera to him, he was showing a different emotion. So, his best friend was giving a speech and I think his phone rang or he played a song and it went completely wrong. His phone showed a cartoon alien dancing and singing about how it was happy that the man has died. I once was able to quote the song but now I can't. Well, I don't know maybe it said "You're dead! You're dead!".
Yes, I know this show is weird but I actually want to find it. I think this show came on in... 2009? Maybe even before that. If you find this then... Thank you!
openTalkingToHimself or ActingForTwo?
I'm not sure this is the right place, but I'm wondering: If an animated work has one person voicing multiple characters who don't meet, does that fall under Acting for Two or Talking To Himself? Because one of the latter's alternate titles is Voice Acting For Two but the Laconic says that the characters have to meet each other.
openFirst timer. My trope has launched, but... what now?
Pertaining to my trope, Social Cyberpunk (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=rt2kqzxnd1y763vryix0znms):
It says "troped," and apparently it has been launched. Yet I can't find its page. If I need to put it up myself, I don't know where to put it, or what to do. I do not think I was the one who launched it! I am stuck here and don't know where to go next with this.
Edited by GMDreiaopenMedia type issue
The ending theme of New Game! Title Drops both the song itself and the series. It should be categorized under Anime, or Music?
openRL examples in Crowning Moments? Live Action TV
What's the policy for real life examples in Crowning Moments of Awesome/Funny/Heartwarming/etc? I was reading the Columbo page and came across this example:
"Real life example- after Falk's death, his estranged daughter from his first marriage, Catherine Falk, tried to sue for control of his estate. The judge denied her request and left Shera Danese as executor. This is awesome as Catherine Falk had not even spoken to her father or showed him any attention while he was alive and especially not in the years when he was dying, whereas Shera Danese had been with him since they met on set to the day he died."
It really feels like a backdoor to troping real life and/or real people. Not only does it not have to do with the show itself, which I know is probably good enough reason to remove it, it's not really something that feels right to be well... celebrating especially as the public isn't exactly privy to all the details of the relationships involved to know why Peter Falk and his daughter were estranged. But this is YMMV territory and I don't want to remove examples just because I don't agree with them, whether it be this one or any other RL examples I might come across.
Thoughts?
openJerkass Woobie Anime
Hello,
There seems to be a disagreement between me and another trope in regard to Jerkass Woobie.
I wrote this entry:
- To an extent, Frieza. His life was completely destroyed after his defeat to Goku on Namek, which was Goku's intention when he spared his life. He devotes his life in getting revenge on Goku, which causes him to be killed by Future Trunks on Earth. He then spends almost twenty years in Hell, being tormented by stuff toys and fairies who have parades around him, while he's trapped in a cocoon hanging from a cherry tree in a field full of flowers, with all his great power stripped away. When he's revived by the Earth's Dragon Balls, all he can think about is revenge, abandoning his failing empire, and decides to train for the first time in his life to unleashed all of his latent power. He successes and becomes powerful enough to overwhelm Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku thanks to his golden transformation. However, since he never mastered his ultimate form, his energy burns out before he can kill Goku and he's humiliated by Vegeta who beats him out of his golden form. Even when he seemingly gets the last laugh by blowing up the Earth, Whis rewinds time on him and gives Goku the opportunity to kill him. He's then sent straight back to Hell, where he will remained forever until he's reborn and lose all of his memories of his past life. Despite being an irredeemable monster, you can't help feel a little sorry for him.
A troper erased it with this edit, Frieza brought all of that on himself, no one feels sorry for him in the least.
I put back the entry and explained that I have seen fans hold this opinion about Frieza's fate, despite agreeing that he is a Complete Monster. And since Jerkass Woobie is an YMMV trope, it fits since there are fans that think, 'he's a bastard, but harsh'.
The entry was erased again wit this reason: This may be your opinion but 99% of the fanbase agrees Frieza got what was coming to him and he's long, long past sympathy. He's the most evil character in the entire franchise and his fans like him for how demented, cruel and genocidial he is.
Again, this isn't really my opinion. This is opinions I have seen among the fandom. I admit, I am not sure if someone who falls under Complete Monster can also be a Jerkass Woobie and I don't want to edit war, so I will bring it here.
openVoiceInTheWasteland
This troper added this to Lauren Faust (his addition in italics):
- Animesque: As evident in her DeviantArt account. And for that matter, the woman herself.
I removed that bit, but he added it back. Not wanting to start an edit war over it, I'd like a second opinion on whether it should stay or not (I personally don't want it there).
Edited by PDLopenPastimes Prove Personality
Why does Pastimes Prove Personality have no examples listed on the page itself?
openalteration in Karma Houdini example
Recently, the following example was altered of "* Lelouch's Zero-Approval Gambit at the end of Code Geass saves quite a few characters from karmic retribution for their actions. Notably, various surviving Britannian soldiers, including Princess Cornelia li Britannia, might have been tried for their war crimes if the circumstances had been any different. And the newly married Ohgi, who had earlier betrayed Lelouch in favor of Schneizel and his slanted accounts in an under the table deal for Japan that would have also left other UFN nations out to dry, and also used Kallen as bait and threatens to kill her under suspicion of Geass without hearing her out, not only receives no punishment for said actions and hypocritical reasoning, but instead gets a good-old Happy Ending as he becomes Prime Minister of Japan. He also gets Happily Married to Villetta, a major Spanner in the Works who is no stranger to screwing over Lelouch for her own ignoble reasons over the course of the entire series, including using a traumatized Shirley to capture him, shooting Ohgi during the Black Rebellion which partly led to its failure, watching over Lelouch during the year while he is amnesiac for the sake of nobility because of her knowledge of his Geass, and convincing Ohgi to betray him as she changes sides; even in spite of her part in Lelouch getting captured following the rebellion, or that even so, Ohgi has the audacity to fully blame him for it, even though it was this as well as his own carelessness that made it happen. To rub it in, the newly wedded couple have a baby on the way. Compare and contrast to the self-sacrifices of Lelouch and Suzaku, who alienated from and made themselves dead to the world, literally in the case of the former and figuratively in the case of the latter, who also became the new Zero as per the Zero Requiem, which made the new peace possible for everyone else. Consider also that the two may not have went with such a plan, which also had a high degree of inferred destruction, if not for the aforementioned betrayal. They pretty much made the ultimate sacrifice for the good of everyone else, including those who had manipulated and wronged them." to " Code Geass gets a lot of anger aimed at it over this. The main characters die - figuratively for one, literally for the other. Meanwhile, many of their enemies are allowed to live on and enjoy the peaceful world they've created. They made the ultimate sacrifice for the good of everyone else, including those who had manipulated and wronged them. However, this is not a bad thing - their ability to forgive is what makes them heroic, even in light of all of the questionable things they themselves have done. The series doesn't cast the characters in question in a bad light either - they've learned their lesson over the course of the story - that war is bad and not worth it, and that all people deserve respect - and the ending invites the viewer to celebrate with them and be happy for them, as Lelouch is (from wherever he is), and as Kallen, Lloyd, Cecile, Nunnally, and many of the other survivors who know the full story are. You can hardly say they'd be better off losing even more of their friends and family - some peaceful world that would be. Really, it's not this trope so much as an aversion of Protagonist-Centered Morality - nonetheless, it has many fans up in arms crying for vengeance."
Link: Karma Houdini/Anime . Opinions?
Edited by MagBasopenDon't Understand the Difference: In Love with Love; Playing Straight and Deconstructed
I'm confused about the difference between playing In Love with Love straight with deconstructing it. It sounds like the two are one and the same, particularly with the example given in Western Animation about Vlad Plasmius: The basic trope is that a character wants a romantic relationship just for the sake of one while the deconstruction is that Vlad wants Maddie as a wife rather than actually being in love with Maddie herself. Those two sound very much alike to me, and are hard to distinguish. Could someone please enlighten me? Thank you in advance for your time and for whatever help you can provide.
open Edit War on WesternAnimation.TheKillingJoke
In WesternAnimation.The Killing Joke, user Austin added a Rape Discretion Shot entry:
- Rape Discretion Shot: In the original book, Joker strips Barbara of her clothing before photographing her, although Alan Moore later clarified that he didn't rape her. The film adds a scene where Batman questions a group of prostitutes about the Joker's whereabouts, and they inform him that Joker usually visits them as soon as he breaks out. When Batman asks why he might not have visited them, one suggests that he found himself another girl, leaving a heavier implication that he actually did rape Barbara.
User BatmanKalEl deleted it saying that producer Bruce Timm has stated that this was not his intention. User flyingfishcake restored it claiming that Death of the Author makes this a valid reading. BatmanKalEl re-deleted it with only "I don't think this" as an edit reason.
Personally, I'm inclined to agree with flyingfishcake on this one; whatever Mr. Timm's intention may have been, the original graphic novel already heavily implies a sexual component to Barbara Gordon's torture, and the added line in the adaptation only strengthens the implication. If a source can be found for Mr. Timm's statement, then a Word of God entry can and should be added under the film's Trivia page, but what's in the film proper is still what's in the film proper.
Edited by HighCrate

Well, does it? (This was on Final Fantasy XIV. The context is that a quest in the :Heavensward expansion has a Punny Name with the pun being derived from a Bonus Level [Specifically what MMO players would refer to as a "Raid"] in the base game)