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openNo Title Film
Film.Agent For HARM lists both of the following tropes:
- Bittersweet Ending: Adam manages to prevent the villain from dusting American crops with the poisonous spores, thereby saving millions of lives, but that's about all that goes right. He fails to find an antidote to the spore and fails to protect Stefanik, the only scientist in the world who is even close to developing an antidote. He also fails to notice that Ava is The Mole, despite her being really bad at it. He doesn't even manage to take the villain down properly; the critically wounded Stefanik is the one who kills the villain, getting himself dusted with spores in the process.
- Downer Ending: The Doctor is killed by the spore despite claiming he gave himself the antidote, and Adam makes out with Ava while arresting her of a capital crime. It's hard to feel anything happy at the end, not even a Bittersweet Ending.
Aren't these mutually exclusive? Should one of these be removed?
EDIT: I think the problem is that on a personal level it is totally a downer ending. Sure the good guy wins and saves millions of lives, but A Million Is a Statistic, and in the process the only likeable character in the movie dies and the cute girl is exposed as a villain and arrested. I think what needs to be done is Downer Ending should be removed, and Bittersweet Ending should be altered to reflect how bad the ending really is.
Edited by wrm5openNo Title
Can the mods please do something to stop morane
? His edit history is the worst I have seen in a long time. I gave up after checking about a third of the list, but there's hardly a single edit which is not violating at least one of our rules.
I have not sent morane any message, because I see no redeemable qualities in his entire edit history. He is almost exclusively concerned with Real Life, adding RL examples or inserting annoying digressions on RL topics into trope descriptions, and he does that in an atrocious careless, sloppy, opinionated and self-indulgent style. Even if he would learn proper editing style, I do not see how he could ever be of use to the wiki. He is not interested in storytelling, fiction, media, or tropes. I would prefer if he were just permanently blocked from editing.
Edited by LordGroopenNo Title
colonelquaritch
uncommented several Zero Context Examples without adding a single piece of context to any of them except one. There are far too many of them for me to do the re-comment out myself.
resolved No Title Film
Considering the ban on potholing trope names in example lists, should we make a separate self-demonstrating page for Attack of the The Eye Creatures in order to maintain the "the the" joke?
We have precedent, as Gadsby received a self-demonstrating page for this reason.
openNo Title
Someone on TV Tropes is giving me a very hard time. He sent me a private message complaining about my DMOS on the Death Battle page with obvious Death Battle worship (he seemed like a massive Death Battle fanboy) and after that, he removed both the Wallbangers for Death Battle Majin Buu vs. Kirby and Goku vs. Superman with bullshit claims (because Wallbangers are both subjective and DBZ itself is very inconsistent). The truly galling part is that he claimed to be a huge DBZ fan, yet he chose to only delete the Wallbangers with DBZ characters, none of the others, which seems very suspect because what DBZ fan wouldn't let another DBZ fan express his opinion? I mean, these Wallbangers are subjective, right? They're not supposed to be purely factual? He also wrote in huge massive justifying edits as he removed them, and all of his points were vague, undefinable, and could be countered with virtually any other point or explanation from both series. And now he won't STOP sending me private messages, he's harassing me and calling me a DBZ heretic. He's currently sent me four private messages so far. Can something be done about him? His name is Tonathan100.
Edited by WhyNotNowopenNo Title
Okay, so is Fin Punch! actually indexed? Because it is listed in the Web Animation index, but the Fin Punch page itself still has the "not been indexed" message.
openNo Title
Is there somewhere that archives Complete Monster entries that have been approved by the thread? So I can check whether an entry (on a work page) has been vetted before PMing/deleting.
Edit: Derp! Complete Monster is locked, so I just realized the trope page itself would serve that purpose. Never mind.
Edit 2: Long as I'm here, I removed it from YMMV.Going Clear since that's a nonfiction book. Is the Moral Event Horizon entry kosher? It's about Real Life people, but also about how the work is protraying them, so I'm uncertain. (I assume it should be ix-nayed but want to be sure.)
Edited by DracMonsteropenNo Title Anime
Before I ask for a revert, I want to make sure, due to this being a US-written wiki, that the previous sentences(which would be reverted to) are correct.
For a quick example;
- Let's see... yeah.
- Let's see...yeah.
- Let's see ... yeah.
Which one of the 3 is correct? I know they aren't full sentences, but the key point is given for the overall grammar in this particular case. The edits that I linked to do nothing but remove the spaces of a tons of paragraphs(making it look like my second subbullet example). I highly doubt that's correct. A teacher I just asked I know said the 3rd example is proper. But she's from the United Kingdom, so the Wiki itself may do it differently.
openNo Title Anime
Not sure where to ask this, so I'm asking this here. I noticed some Conversation On The Main Page on the Arc Fatigue page, regarding Katekyo Hitman Reborn. I sent the editor who put it in a standard message on natter. But I know nothing about that manga, so I have no idea how to fix the example myself. Can anyone else fix it?
openNo Title Live Action TV
Regarding reality TV shows, are we allowed to trope entries that are not explicitly shown on the screen itself, but news from other sources?
openNo Title
Please could I have some help defining what natter is, just in case I've made a mistake. I removed something from the Characters.RWBYTeamJNPR
yesterday because it looks like natter to me. It's been readded today with the edit reason that it's not natter because it's not responding to the main example it's fixing itself to. However, no matter how I look at it, it comes across as Conversation In The Main Page to me.
Am I misinterpreting what Natter is? Any advice would be appreciated.
Edited by WyldchyldopenNo Title Videogame
So what's the deal with Minimalist Run? I could understand putting examples on the page itself, but is it really permissible to stick this trope on work pages that don't, in and of themselves, contain the trope? This is basically an elevated form of Troper Tales, in my opinion. "You can do a Minimalist Run in this game by not doing X, Y, or Z." Congratulations, you've just described almost every game ever.
I feel like this should be In Universe Examples Only. Thoughts?
Edited by SolipSchismopenNo Title Anime
I've been making it a little project of mine to migrate any Japanese-named manga, anime, or light novel series over to their official English names whenever they exist via places like Amazon, FUNimation, Crunchyroll, Hulu etc. There's one I've wanted to do that with for a while now, but not quite sure how to handle it due to some title overlap.
The series title of Manga.Nanatsu No Taizai translates to, and is marketed in English as, "The Seven Deadly Sins". Manga.The Seven Deadly Sins already exists as a redirect to Nanatsu.
Ordinarily a straightforward issue, but there is also a page titled Theatre.The Seven Deadly Sins. In terms of content, the Theater page has only itself, not even any examples and a blank YMMV page. It's in dire need of crosswicking at the very least.
Now the issue here is if I were to do the migration, do I just move everything, including sub-pages, over to Manga.The Seven Deadly Sins per normal, or should I do something special to make sure that there's as little overlap with the Theater page as possible?
I suppose what I'm asking is which page gets the priority?
Edited by sgamer82openNo Title Film
Hello tropers and beyond! My name is Micah, I'm new to this website, and as a film enthusiast, I love it. I've noticed that many of my favorite films have been properly troped and then some (Leon the Professional, Mulholland Drive, Donnie Darko, Audition, Memento Mori etc). I however have not found a trope page for the live action Japanese film "Casshern" and would love to see one. This would be for the full uncut 140 minutes version from Japan and not the butchered widely disliked by fans 120 minute version created for the US. I've started accumulating some tropes but it's slow going since I don't know that many yet. That and it's a really complicated film. I'd love some help on it if any of you would like to. If you come up with some tropes to mind, please by all means shoot away! So far I've written down the following tropes. I'll have to review them to make sure I'm not mistaken about them. Obviously there's spoilers, so beware!:
Mind Screw, Bittersweet Ending, Chekhov's Gunman - Casshern the Guardian God never appears onscreen but his miracles (or lightning bolts do) and are what has a domino effect on the plot. The God's character is briefly explained halfway through in a story., Fantastic Racism, Space Whale Aesop, Anyone can Die, Everybody's dead Dave, Kill 'Em All, The End of the World as we Know It, The Aloner (Burai), Misanthrope Supreme (Burai), Big Bad (Burai), Bigger Bad (Dr. Azuma), Anti Villain (Burai), Designated Villain (Although Burai ends up with intentions for genocide, he was originally killed for no reason and once he was resurrected, him and his people again were hunted down for just existing), Immortality Seeker (Dr. Azuma and the Government), Grey and Gray Morality, Black and Gray Morality, Cynicism Catalyst (Burai and his fellow neo sapiens were hunted down to be killed. He then takes it upon himself to murder the entire human race as rightful justice), Famous last words, The hero dies, Kubrick Stare
Edited by micahblowersopenNo Title Anime
I have a certain issue with the Fullmetal Alchemist example on Devil, but No God, it seems to miss the point of the trope, and seems to misunderstand the term "God" just to refer to the stereotypical "Kindly old man" figure that Christianity tends to present, when the term is actually a lot more broad then that, and Truth is acknowledged to be the God of the FMA universe. The example would be better in God and Satan Are Both Jerks.
I'd remove it myself, but I'd like to ask for a second opinion here before doing so.
So, what do you guys think? Should I remove it? Leave as it is? What?
Edited by SaintDeltoraopenNo Title
So I need a moderator to settle this
. Discar repeatedly reverted the self-demonstrating folder titles on Drill Sergeant Nasty, linking to a thread post, but the post is just him complaining about how the folders on that page annoy him. There's nothing official. I asked if there's a moderator position, but rodneyAnonymous claimed several moderators held this position, with no official mod ruling yet.

Edit: I just answered my own question: The index itself lists the relevant examples. Ignore me, I'm an idiot.
Does raise the issue of crosswicking, though.
Edited by SolipSchism