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openNo Title Live Action TV
I moved a Boardwalk Empire
character from one category to another because his change of "camp" constitutes a season 4 spoiler by itself and is generally agreed not to do that for the current/last aired season out of courtesy in the indexes (like with the houses in Game of Thrones, where allegiances are spoilers and it was discussed that moving them around under their master houses defeats the purpose of the categories in the first place), so anyway I put the character in another
factually correct and less revealing category. All with edit reasons and all, but editor Mickey Doyle
, who moved the character there
in the first place, has reverted the correction without any edit reason or discussion whatsoever.
So It's up to me to sort it out? (It's a bit painful to articulate P Ms with people who don't use edit reasons, he should be the one justifying the changes, perhaps you can help me out here) Maybe this informal courtesy is not really sanctioned and characters pages can be spoilers-off.
edit : PM sent
Edited by TrollBrutalopenNo Title
What exactly is with the large chunk of self-demonstrating text in the middle of "Where Are They Now?" Epilogue? It's a bit of a non sequitur and kind of ugly, and I don't remember it being there before. Page history doesn't show anything.
Edited by nrjxllopenNo Title
On the Pew Die Pie page, stuffedninja
keeps trying to add a self-demonstrating first person line to it (and just one, with the rest of the description written normally). I reverted it the first time, but he added it back. Since I don't want to get into an edit war, can a mod step in and put a stop to this?
openNo Title
Troper philipnova798
is doing a huge job adding credits to various anime studio creator pages. Now, I wouldn't have any beef with that by itself, but by doing so he's using very little of the proper namespacing.
Sometimes a namespace is used, but most often he just put the Main/ link. And not just for titles where the wick migration have been completed, but also for links toward disambiguations and other where the Main/ redirect has been deleted already.
I know that plenty of tropers have yet to get used to the new namespace system. I've even taken upon myself to send a (polite) PM to some of those I spotted linking toward a dead Main/ wick to warn them. However, this one troper is a BIG source of new Main/ wicks, and cleaning up those creator pages, which are basically long lists of titles, is taking forever.
And yes, I've already sent a PM to him a while ago to explain the problem. However, I got no answer and his namespacing habits haven't changed recently. So, if a mod could give him a sterner warning, I'll be glad.
openNo Title
Though perhaps it could be retooled, I think there's a troll page to be deleted
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/SelfDemonstrating/Waluigi
openNo Title Webcomic
What's the point of Doc Scratch ? I'm pretty sure that page used to be in Self-Demonstrating and it was just as terrible then as it is now. Why should some random character get their own page in the Main namespace that doesn't even bother demonstrating their verbal quirk?
Doc Scratch is known for typing in unreadable white font and being very polite, bordering on condescending. That page is just a bunch of character tropes poorly written in first person.
Just doesn't seem to me like a page that should exist, but I don't think "I think this page is dumb" is a valid reason to cutlist something.
Edited by SpitefulFoxopenNo Title Anime
I have questions about the rather or not the "A Certain Scientific Railgun" series actually qualifies as a spin-off of the "A Certain Magical Index" series. The anime even refers to itself as a "side story" not a spin-off, a side story being a story that is happening away from the main but can still holds importance, a spin-off is a story that spins off into another direction of the main and doesn't make much of a difference to it. Also it doesn't fit in any of the classifications of a spin-off according to its page. The closest one it fits into is the shared continuity category but with all of the defining characteristics being reversed.
1: All of the characters from the original show up in it and hold an importance to the plot.
2: The plot of both series runoff each other, Railgun has some things that look like a Deus Ex Machina that are further explained in the Index, while it also conversely gives a more clear and better understanding of the details of science side for the Index. Both are practically essential to properly understand the full extent of the overall plot of the franchise.
3: The Railgun manga was originally created for purpose of better understanding the plot, characters and timeline of the Index series while telling it through the eyes of its minor and secondary characters.
Conclusion: Wouldn't all this mean that A Certain Scientific Railgun is not a "Spin-Off" but an entire "Lower Deck Series?"
openNo Title
minor edit war in MerlinSickness
.
not sure which side should get the final word.
frankly i find the Self-Demonstrating bullcrap the page is trying to pull off very disorienting. so i'm with the ones who want the description back on top.
openNo Title
Are there any rules about making Self-Demonstrating Article character pages or are they a free launch like work pages? Couldn't find any administriva that talks about it.
Also is there any way to hook a Self-Demonstrating Article to the main page of a work like Wild Mass Guessing and YMMV?
openNo Title
Does changing a wiki link on a work page to point to the wiki of an entirely unrelated work for self-promotion purposes count as vandalism? Because Blocky Cuzco did that on Creatures.
I already fixed it, just wonder if someone needs to talk to them. Their other edits
have some newbie/possibly-a-kid issues (an edit just to add additonal Bold Inflation to an already unnecessarily capslocked example, ZC Es, putting examples for a Just for Fun thing on a work page).
edit: I admit though, I probably could have been more polite when I reverted it.
Edited by InsanityPreludeopenNo Title Anime
(Medium listed as Anime as the page involved is in that medium, although the question itself is medium-neutral)
The question is: Can pages be split based on YMMV tropes?
Specifics: Characters.Detective Conan One Scene Wonders is relatively old; it was first created as a folder within Characters.Detective Conan and later split into a separate article, together with other content, in 2012. While as a Long Runner, Detective Conan has a large amount of One-Scene Wonder examples, OSW is a YMMV trope. So, is it appropriate to keep that page as is, or should I re-organize it, or at least, rename it?
openNo Title Music
So I'm curious about something.
If someone real claims he was involved in a Scam Religion, is that "in universe" enough to mention on the person's page as a trope? As in, the person involved in it, himself, denounced it as a scam to the point of having an outright press conference to beg people not to join it and announce his lawsuit against it? Of course, I'm not saying listed as an objective trope at all, but just to list the trope, with the trope description being something like "Scam Religion: Invoked Trope: Person left religion claiming that it was a scam, sued it for fraud, and requested no one buy or pay attention to his works created for it. (Citation here)"
The reason I'm asking is because it's a limited circumstance, and it's not saying objectively that the religion involved (no, it's not Happyology, or a mainstream religion btw) is a scam, it's saying that to the person involved, he felt that it changed his life much for the worse and he felt that it was a scam that took his money and labor and time, to the point that he felt compelled to write at least one song about his experience leaving, file suit, etc. Nor am I seeking to list it as an example on the Scam Religion page itself.
(ninja'd)
Edited by RevolutionStoneopenNo Title
Maybe it's just my computer or the browser (Internet Explorer), but as of late I've suffered from several latencies that cause frequent mini-freezes in the tabs I have while viewing or editing pages, or posting in the forums. Sometimes it forces IE to close and then reopen the tabs, and on rare occasions this even affects any other tabs (so if I'm loading a You Tube video, it'll reset). It's getting very irritating, so much that I had to write this very post in a notepad since I was never able to finish posting before a problem occured.
Is this a cookie problem? If so, what can I do to fix this? If it's a thing from the site itself, does the staff know about it already? Thanks in advance!
openNo Title
What trope would this be: An elf (santa type, short with pointy ears) pretends to be an adolescent Trekkie to allay suspicion. It feels like For Halloween, I Am Going as Myself, but it's not for Halloween. It could also be a form of Clark Kenting or Hidden in Plain Sight, but I'm not sure where to categorize it.
openNo Title Western Animation
Someone is vandalizing the My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic - Season 4 page. I would clean it out myself, but my internet is down and I'm on my phone.
openNo Title
I saw on Downton Abbey, there's a long Unfortunate Implications entry that is talking to itself. Wasn't sure what if anything to do about it.
One particular question is that having viewed the episode in question (since it only just aired in the U.S.), I think the presentation makes it kind of ambiguous (I'm not sure if deliberately or not) to what degree Tom having sex with Edna was consensual, but some things which I could elaborate make me think it was supposed to come off that way- so, not sure what to do about entries stating that she raped him.
openNo Title
Can someone talk to Omega Metroid about being polite? Here
he/she doesn't seem to understand why I had reverted his/her edit, and instead is trying to find excuses to say I am the villain.
EDIT: Since the troper may appear to overcomplicate a very simple issue, the thing is that he/she had added a Justifying Edit, and upon doing so violated Example Indentation. He/she appears to be upset because I had reverted the edit instead of fixing it myself. But a troper can only fix something when there's familiarity with the work it's being spoken of. And unless someone familiar with that work who knows the wiki rules comes to make the fix, the entry will be left alone and exposed for someone who knows the work but not the editing rules to add yet another justification. The troper in question has to learn to add information correctly, and that extra information could have been put the right way in the first place, I dunno how else he/she will learn to do so if nobody natterfies him/her. He resorted to Stealth Insult wording and claims I vandalized by not giving a "real reason" to revert the edit, when that's not the case.
Edited by MyFinalEditsopenNo Title
Is there a rule for Self-Demonstrating characters?
For example, on the Marvel vs. Capcom 3 Marvel Characters page, Doctor Doom and Deadpool both have self-demonstrating entries because they have their own self demonstrating pages.
To me, this seems really jarring, out of place, and just sorta annoying. I was wondering if there was a rule about this one way or the other.

I'd like to get opinions on what to do with this:
It kinda sounds like a Justifying Edit, or at least natter. To me, it seems like the troper presumes this trope is a bad thing. Should the second entry be deleted or incorporated into the first? Because it does make a valid point, it's just that I don't know if it's important to the Adaptational Wimp trope.
Edited by XSpectreGreyX