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GamingMindtheGreat
has been doing some vandalism on the Chuggaaconroy page and its Awesome Moments subpage. He made some constructive edits on the SlimKirby page but also tried to claim himself as the sole editor.
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Main.I Survived is a page apparently intended for the television series of the same name about survivors of disasters or encounters with murderers and other criminals. However, it was created in the Main/ namespace back in January, the series page barely even qualifies as a stub as it has just one trope listed (Too Soon) and no description of the series itself, the YMMV page has just two tropes listed (and the only context for either is "And how!"), and there are only four wicks and no inbound links. Should the wicks be removed and the page put on the cutlist?
(Or, alternatively (and, I would imagine, preferably), is there someone familiar with the series who can put together a proper page in the Series/ namespace?)
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Can I ask.
On Values Dissonance/Race Relations I've found an entry which is so absurdly wrong and incorrect that I'm wondering if it was put there to deliberately troll, or perhaps to test out how rigorously the site does its fact-checking. it relates to social attitudes and ancestry of the people of Liverpool - I know the place quite well and I've never heard of anything like this.
Found this in "Race Relations".
Quote; "In Liverpool, it is extremely offensive to make jokes about Scandinavians (unless they are self-deprecating ones). Then again Liverpool people were descended from them, so it makes sense. Do not do so in Crosby, Formby or Southport, where over half the population is descended from Swedish, Danish, Icelandic or Norwegian peoples."
The author, Sifr1889, has vigorously defended this statement in the page history. Would I be justified in deleting? I really don't want to start any flame wars or arguments and would welcome advice. Thanks!
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Harley Quinnhyenaholic just added a bunch of stuff to The Bully that's kinda soap-boxing, with the explanation of "personal experience." While I certainly sympathize, having been bullied myself, I don't think the wiki is the place for it.
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A "YMMV" sub-page exists on this page, but it's not showing up on the main Let's Play page itself. Why is that so?
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While I understand that Unpublished Works is the page to put stories that haven't been officially published, where does the policy stand with regard to fanfic? Surely no fanfic on the Internet ever gets published, or is that sufficient publishing in itself?
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I unspoilered all the trope names in the Character/Ib page but an editor put the spoilers back
. May I request a revert?
Edit: Never-mind. Changed it back myself and p'med him about Handling Spoilers.
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Not sure if this is the best place to ask this, but how do you redirect a work page located in Main to a proper namespace? El Chavo Del Ocho would go under Live Action TV (it's a Mexican sitcom), but I never made a redirect myself so I'm dubious about how to do it here. Thanks in advance.
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sheju
's edit was to add a slur to the description of Shame If Something Happened, seemingly in response to a rhetorical self-referential joke in the description. Noting this here, because I am not 100% sure whether it's vandalism or not.
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There is a YKTTW I proposed over a year ago called Getting Too Old For This
, where the title is a shortened version of a common phrase associated with using the trope ie "I'm getting too old for this shit." I understand the whole "No New Stock Phrases" policy but I think sometimes the policy is thrown around as though it is the end all of discussion and not the beginning of it.
The name was chosen to AVOID sounding like dialogue and the trope itself is much broader than the phrase. The original name has some support and other names have been offered but nothing has gained any traction, in fact the only ones keeping up are even shorter versions like "Too Old for This."
Frankly it's arguing the semantics of the policy that has kept the trope in limbo. On the policy page itself it has a stupidly open ended statement saying you can't even have an "implied" pronoun like I, Me or You in the title, which you could add to just about ANY trope name. ie "I'm Getting Too Old For This" "I'm Too Old For Heroics" "I'm Cresting the Hill" etc.
And please don't misunderstand me, I would gladly bow out of the name if I thought it sounded like dialogue but I don't think it does. It's just that the wheel spinning is really frustrating.
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There's a page I came across where I'm not sure how to handle it.
The Governator, a show that was to be about a fictionalized version of Arnold Schwarzenegger as a Bruce Wayne/Batman type superhero. However, the show itself never made it to the air, due to a personal scandal involving AS. Should the old version be returned and cleaned up for Examples Are Not Recent issues, or just zap the new one as a stub (albeit with 63 inbounds, so the Cut List is out)?
The problem is that the current version of the page isn't the original one. The old one has a lot more tropes, but it was based solely on promotional materials, with a lot of "seems like", "appears", and so forth.
I checked the directory for ongoing project threads
but didn't see anything that seemed like it would be an appropriate place to bring this issue up.
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I feel like an entry on the Shawn Michaels page is incorrect, but didn't want to remove it without asking first. The entry is as follows:
- Chronic Backstabbing Disorder: His latest victim of this was Daniel Bryan. Nobody was amused, much less Bryan himself, who immediately took it out on Shawn the next night on RAW.
For those who follow WWE and recall the events that took place, would I be wrong if I said that it wasn't a "back stab"? He superkicked Daniel Bryan in defense of his best friend Triple H, after Bryan essentially sucker-punched Triple H (with a knee to the face). It wasn't out of spite or betrayal— it was less about assaulting Bryan and more about defending Triple H.
Michaels even apologized the next night on Raw. Characters generally don't apologize the day after backstabbing someone, right?
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On The Incredibles, I saw this incredibly bizarre rant/non-example added by Johnny 2071
:
- "Stop Having Fun" Guys: Helen Parr, and how. She ties the entire family down, just for her own selfish intentions of fitting in. Where to start.....where to start.... She won't let Dash use his speed, let alone complete in the school track team. And of all things, she gets on Bob's case just for doing the thing that he was born to do, and thing that makes him feel alive: saving people and stopping crime. She doesn't even consider how demeaning and soul-crushing his day job is, let alone apologize for making the family feel less than what they truly are. Needless to say, when the superheroes were forced to go underground, she was most likely the first to give up everything that Elastigirl was about, in favor of being a simple mother. To be honest, this trope doesn't even ''begin'' to describe how wrong her attitude and intentions are. If she had her way throughout the whole film, the Parrs would be the most perfect nuclear family, while the rest of the city falls under crime, corruption, and degradation, and no little person would be safe.
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This editor
is adding examples of Adult Fear (and other tropes) which sometimes lack proper Example Indentation. I did already message them (before the first edit on Adult Fear itself) to check out our Example Indentation rules but they keep using subbullets improperly. I'll note that most of their edits seem legit to me other than in terms of subbullet usage.
eta: Upon reconsideration, their editing speed seems to be fairly normal.
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Looking to launch a works page. The page itself already exists under a Japanese title, Mondaiji Tachi Ga Isekai Kara Kuru Sou Desu Yo, but I was thinking of copy & pasting everything over to a page listed under its English title (as provided by Crunchyroll) Problem Children are Coming from Another World, aren't they? with the Japanese name as a redirect. Is there anything I need to check on before I actually do it or can I just go ahead and get it done. I ran into this at least one other time and I think I was told then to just do it, but I don't want to step on any toes unnecessarily if I can help it.
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Well, the medium is a blend of music and TV.
While surfing troperdom I saw Johnny Cash's "A Boy Named Sue" discussed in Gender Blender Names. Some mention is made of others following the song's exaample and naming their sons (or male dogs) Sue.
I'd like to point out somewhere that this was lampshaded and possibly played with in other ways, I'm not sure which, in an episode of The Partridge Family. They had a visitor: a young man who introduced himself by a name that sounded like Sue.
Reuben Kincaid hung the lampshade: "A boy named Sue?"
Their visitor was quick to clarify that in fact, his name was Sioux, as in the Native American tribe, of which he is one quarter.
In what ways does this address the Gender-Blender Name trope? Or any others?
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There's a Edit War in inFAMOUS over The Scrappy entry. This is the removed entry in question:
- The Scrappy: The Voice of Survival makes himself very easy to hate. It's hard to feel bad when the First Sons shoot him.
- Trish. She never misses an opportunity to remind Cole that the Raysphere blast was his fault, makes sure to remind him at several times that it's his fault her sister died, and leads you on an infuriatingly annoying Escort Mission atop a bus.
- Zeke is probably even worse. He is a useless, stupid mooch... in addition to being a traitor. He is apparently Cole's best friend but we are never given any real reason to like or even tolerate him.
I remember posting the Trish part of it awhile back when both the In Famous and In Famous 2 pages were fused, and there have been back and forth edits over it recently, with the last edit deleting it completely. I'd like to know if this should stay off the page or if it should return. Although I personally really do hate Trish, there does seem to be a general enough opinion of her that she deserves her Scrappy status (not sure if this is a good enough evidence, but "hate trish infamous" is a search suggestion on Google with the first several links titled along the lines of "I hate Trish" or "Does anyone hate Trish?"). Same with Zeke from the first game and Voice of Survival. Or do they maybe need to be moved under Base Breaker and have their entries fixed?
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I have two questions, actually, but since one requires a simple answer and one is a request, I suspect one post will be sufficient.
The simple answer: Are square brackets actually, officially the TVTropes default for stage directions, rather than curved brackets? I've been handed that edit reason a few times, but it doesn't seem to be consistent (or even close to the majority usage) across the wiki. I went through all the instructional entries I could find that seemed relevant and can't find a single reference either way. Personally, I think square brackets look ugly used that way and already serve a typographical/markup purpose - if they're also used for stage directions, there's scope for some very broken formatting - but I'll abide by the rules if the rules exist.
The request is for someone to do...something...about Spec Ops: The Line, because the entire page is riddled with Natter and worse. Entries arguing with other entries, an incoherent and badly-formatted rant about something I can't even parse, and lengthy entries in Fridge Logic, which I thought were supposed to go to Headscratchers. The game attracts incendiary opinions no matter what, I know, but can it at least be kept down to a dull roar? I'd do it myself, but I've made my own stupid edits in the past and I don't think I have the clout or wisdom to clear it all up for good. Or even a little while.
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This guy
has some edits in the Headscratchers that are borderline, amounting to character bashing or just really insulting sarcasm. Most of his edits are fine, but stuck in there are "explanations" for Mary Jane's behavior in Spider-Man as "Simple answer: Mary Jane is being a complete self-centered bitch in that scene." And adding "Well so much for that. Rebooted! Don't we all love Slaughterman much better?" to a discussion about Superman Returns. Or "So we're agreed, James Cameron is a hack." to Signs.
Like I said, the vast majority of his edits are fine, but he can't seem to resist adding nasty quips like that which do not add to the discussion.