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openSneakers & Getting Crap Past The Radar Film
So in the Sneakers, there is an %-ed entry for GCPTR, citing the works on the trope itself. I dig out the original entry and it says the following:
Dr. Rhyzkov calls Janek "what a dick" in a truly vulgar manner. But does so in Czech, so no sweat. It also leads to a dissonance with the overall Avoid the Dreaded G Rating strategy undertook in late stages of production.
Not an expert on Czech, but traced the line and the swear works in other Slav languages, too. This is really damn vulgar.
So my question is: can the original entry be re-instated, given it clearly has:
- Radar in form of MPA and their rating system
- Crap in form of severe swearing
- Getting past in form of Hiding Behind the Language Barrier
And on top of that, the last sentence is correct - this is so severe, the film wouldn't have to go through all the additional hurdles mentioned under Avoid the Dreaded G Rating if that line was simply in English (and to be frank, I'm not sure you could augment the vulgar manner of calling someone a dick in English to properly portray the severity of it).
tl;dr can the original entry go back?
Edited by Staniszopen Unilateral Change to "StrawMisogynist"
In January of last year, a troper changed the definition of the "Straw Misogynist" trope to indicate it as a sub-trope of the trope "Politically Incorrect Villain". (And removed a previous indication that examples were "almost always" examples of that trope.) No edit reason was given.
Being, I think, unsure of whether the change was valid or not, I brought up the matter in the "Unilateral Changes Cleanup" thread. There the person who made the edit stated that they didn't know why they had done it (due to the interval of time since then), and to revert it if it was deemed incorrect.
No other comments were given on the matter in the thread, however, leaving me a little uncertain on how to proceed.
My inclination is to revert the change—but to do so myself, with no consensus, feels a little unilateral on my part.
So, I bring this here for consensus: should I revert this change?
Here's a link to the edit in question:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.StrawMisogynist#edit28310966
openIndexing Pages for Authors
Let's say there was an Awesome Moments page for The Stand. Would it be alphabetized by itself, or under Stephen King works? Or both?
And if the latter, would it be under S or K?
Thanks.
Edited by ACWopenIn-Universe Draco in Leather Pants Web Original
I was trying to expand the list of tropes on minor characters for a little known Web Series called Escape the Night and I was wondering, can I use the trope Draco in Leather Pants as an In-Universe trope? I saw people do it with other YMMV tropes, and it fits very much with the character. The character is Colin, a Jerkass and Mr. Fanservice who is rude, selfish and vain, but is idolised by several of the girls simply because of his looks. One of the girls goes through Character Development and realises just how cruel and selfish Colin is, but the other one doesn’t and keeps idolising him. Can I put the Draco in Leather Pants under his character tropes or not?
openQuestionable self-demonstrating entry
Richard Tropes did an edit to Characters.Kan Colle One for Yuudachi's entry where every sentence in the profile ends with her Verbal Tic of "poi". I ain't that well-versed in wiki policies, but this feels really excessive usage of the Verbal Tic, as the most I've seen of stuff like this is merely to demonstrate if a character has a particular way of talking in an example. So it might need a revert.
openOdd YMMV point removal Videogame
While browsing around, I found that this point was removed from YMMV.Super Mario Odyssey by The Living Drawing:
- Sacred Cow: Super Mario Odyssey quickly reached this status much like its sister game The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. The Mario franchise in general is a very strong Sacred Cow for Nintendo, and with Odyssey bringing the series back to artistic greatness and having few to no argued flaws, a vast majority of the Mario and Nintendo fandom holds the game in very high regard.
Now, that wouldn't bother me too much — the Broken Base point on the same page notes that it's gotten a fair amount of criticism and debate over the years regarding whether or not it has too many collectibles. What does grab my attention, however, is the edit summary, which reads "Game is very frequently bashed and seems to be seen as one of the weakest 3D Mario games nowadays." I haven't actually seen any of this myself, both in Nintendo-centric and more layperson-oriented spaces, and from what I could glean, it's still very well-regarded despite the content overabundance debate, which makes me wonder if this is someone mistaking a Vocal Minority for general consensus and/or editing solely based on their personal opinion of the game. Should the point be reinstated, given that, or is there a better way to go about it? Edited by bowserbros
openCommented out old folder, misuse(?)
Found this whole folder commented out under Slow Laser:
- Scientists have created a Terawatt laser (over 1,000 gigawatts!) that can fire a beam into space... for scientific purposes. The laser is so powerful that it can only be fired for brief periods, creating a visible pulse that seems to "travel" through the atmosphere like a sci-fi "blaster" due to the ionizing effect. The ionization of the atmosphere around the beam creates a temporary plasma vacuum that allows the laser to remain coherent over much longer distances, which is what propagates as a visible pulse, hence the glowy visible laser effect is actually the intended purpose.
- Military lasers are still research projects, for the most part, but as Technology Marches On, laser weapons are going to be increasingly prevalent.
- Microwave-based non-lethal "riot cannon" do exist, but given that they cause serious physical pain without much damage, their association with torture has left this project on the back-burner. Electroshock weapons using a laser pulse to create conductive trails (instead of wired tasers, for example) are also in the works, but are of dubious usefulness.
- Liquid chemical lasers exist and work. There's one mounted in a 747 intended to kill ICB Ms, though it isn't quite ready for prime-time yet. A similar device has been toted for an AC-130 mounted "super sniper weapon" to perform silent, long range pinpoint kills. Ground-based systems are also being tested to shoot down incoming artillery shells and missiles.
- Solid state combat lasers are on their way; these can be mounted anywhere with enough power available. And if/when they become widely available on the battlefield . . . it will never be the same again. Combat aircraft will be driven out of the lower atmosphere, artillery will become almost useless (without firing hundreds of shells at the batteries just to get a few through), and missiles will become much, much less effective.
- The US Navy is preparing to deploy a ship-mounted solid state laser into active service in 2014
(original plan called for the use of megawatt-range variable frequency free-electron laser
, but that has been pushed back to 2020s). Although it took a lot of money to develop, actually firing it is cheaper than missiles or bullets, and it has succeeded in destroying its targets in every test run. However, it does have some disadvantages: a direct line of sight is required (as it fires a straight beam, it can't arc over walls or reach beyond the horizon like conventional artillery), it needs to hold on the target for several seconds, and adverse weather conditions could lessen its effectiveness.
- The US Navy is preparing to deploy a ship-mounted solid state laser into active service in 2014
- Less destructive but highly effective microwave emitters in the form of modern complex radar and ECM units can be used to track, blind and hack enemy radar and communication mechanisms. This was apparently used by Israeli strike craft against Syria in the recent past. The F-22's radar, among several other AESA systems, has been rumored to be capable of such feats as well.
- One type actually based on lasers uses a piece of video software called a “glint detector” for targetting. Linked together with an appropriate laser, it allows any number of lensed devices (such as cameras… Or eyeballs) within view for hundreds of feet to be instantly detected and burned out.
- The largest laser ever created, consisting of focused beams from 192 individual lasers, will be used at the National Ignition Facility in California to attempt to finally achieve break-even nuclear fusion.Details.
- If completed, the Extreme Light Infrastructure can even outperform NIF, since it can have its peak power in exawatt range, and should be powerful enough to tear apart the vacuum of space-time itself
!
- If completed, the Extreme Light Infrastructure can even outperform NIF, since it can have its peak power in exawatt range, and should be powerful enough to tear apart the vacuum of space-time itself
- Lawrence Livermore laboratories used to have a Petawatt laser
, which could produce over 1015 Watts of power at the instant of its peak output. The pulse was so brief, however, it only produced about 600 Joules of total energy.
- Scientists have developed a mosquito-zapping laser
. It doesn't attack humans or butterflies, according to TV reports.
- The Spyder III Pro Arctic
. The world's first consumer hand-held laser weapon. Made from a cannibalised laser projector, it packs enough power to ignite flesh and cause permanent blindness instantly. The emitter also looks exactly like a lightsaber handle!
- Not yet effective as a weapon though, since it takes minutes to burn through your opponent, enough for him or her to kill you by more mainstream weapons. Unless they can in the near future multiply the power by a factor of 10 and keep the same size and battery.
- In 2010 the BBC posted a story linked to the first public video of a laser weapon
destroying a large target.
- There actually are laser weapon system being actively used today, such as the Thor
and ZEUS-HLONS
, but they are primarily for explosive disposal, not for shooting people.
- This guy
makes frickin' laser beams as a hobby! The demonstrations show two pistols and what can only be considered a Sonic Screwdriver burning through discs and sunglasses, popping balloons, and setting matches on fire from across the room. Granted, being Too Dumb to Live and looking into the beam emitter directly will blind you permanently even with a welder's shield. But still, laser pistols!
- Laser Glo is a company that builds handheld lasers powerful enough to ignite small fires in paper and sometimes unrefined wooden targets.
- There was one very, very real LASER (machine-)gun produced in the 1990s. The ZM-87
, a blinding neodymium LASER weapon, intended to blind by burning out eyeball corneas and digital camera CC Ds with a longer range (2+ km) than an actual bullet-firing machine-gun. Now, this type of weapon is precise and extremely effective at neutralizing hostiles, yet entirely non-lethal as the beam is not powerful enough to damage vital organs, and blinded soldiers would be forced to surrender because they cannot aim a gun nor run away. It is for that reason that this kind of weapon is actually banned by a 1995 international convention on the laws of war. Yes, all sides in an armed conflict would rather have their soldiers die from gunshots than be blinded but alive - it costs too much money to rehabilitate blinded personnel and POWs... which makes one realize how sinister war is.
- It makes little sense in Real Life combat though, for multiple reasons: it can't fire indirectly like artillery or rocket artillery, cameras and eyeballs can be protected with welder-type goggles, which troops would deploy when they see their first-line comrades blinded and it does not harm troops under cover, inside APCs or inside buildings or bunkers. It works more like a torture device to be fired at lightly-armed men on open ground than like modern explosive weapons.
- A conventional LASER weapon can't be expected to fill every role on the battlefield, but no form of eye/camera protection short of a blindfold can filter out an adjustable color LASER. Otherwise, it's no worse than an anti-personnel machine-gun against vehicle armor or ferrocrete, or a MASER
against unprotected flesh.
- A conventional LASER weapon can't be expected to fill every role on the battlefield, but no form of eye/camera protection short of a blindfold can filter out an adjustable color LASER. Otherwise, it's no worse than an anti-personnel machine-gun against vehicle armor or ferrocrete, or a MASER
- It makes little sense in Real Life combat though, for multiple reasons: it can't fire indirectly like artillery or rocket artillery, cameras and eyeballs can be protected with welder-type goggles, which troops would deploy when they see their first-line comrades blinded and it does not harm troops under cover, inside APCs or inside buildings or bunkers. It works more like a torture device to be fired at lightly-armed men on open ground than like modern explosive weapons.
Checked the edit history and this seems leftover from when the page was Frickin Laser Beams, commented out for the same misuse that caused the rename of just being lasers but lacking the Hollywood properties this is about. Should everything but the first be cut as it covers the external visibility part, or all cut as having nothing to do with slowness?
Checked the edit history and this seems leftover from when the page was Frickin Laser Beams, commented out for the same misuse that caused the rename of just being lasers but lacking the Hollywood properties this is about. Should everything but the first be cut as it covers the external visibility part, or all cut as having nothing to do with slowness?
openBragging Rights Reward
I ppst here since I don't think it need TRS (yet). I'm on phone and the page's editor act wonky, else I'll fix it myself.
Anyway, despite the trope description make it crystal clear that "Note that the Bragging Rights Reward has an actual effect on gameplay and would be useful if you could get it earlier. If the reward exists only to serve as proof of accomplishment and has no other purpose (such as a medal in your inventory or a star next to your save file), it's a Cosmetic Award.", Non-Video Game Examples folder has multiple misused including the latest addition
.
openTySargent2001
I have some concerns about Ty Sargent 2001. Unfortunately for me, a lot of them are things that we don't make notifiers for.
Yesterday, Ty made this
blank draft, which would be bad enough, but it's also for a nonexistent work of their own creation that already has a Darth Wiki page here, and with said Darth Wiki page being seeming self-plagiarism from this wiki article
. They also gave that Darth Wiki page a trivia page, which is against the rules for Unpublished Works (and is also misleading considering the work does not and never will exist).
Then there are the issues outside of their Sesame Street fanfic. Their edits today on The Wubbulous World of Dr. Seuss are to add way too much information to Kick the Dog and make it a wall of text
. This addition
is redundant parabombing, and they added bad indentation here
and here
, which I think might be the one thing I've been able to send a notifier for so far (without having to script my own, which I'm not the best at).
openValues Dissonance entry Anime
The YMMV page for Monster has a Values Dissonance entry saying, "Asking women to smile has become very frowned upon since the series was made." The troper who added this is now suspended, and it doesn't elaborate at all. I've seen the whole series, but I can't remember what specific moment this is referencing, and the comment itself doesn't make sense without more of an explanation.
Edited by Javertshark13openWhat exactly is the scope of Dueling Games? Videogame
I'm confused on several stuff regarding this "page".
I was just browsing Trivia.Bayonetta 3 and saw these examples:
- Dueling Games:
- With Darksiders III, similar to the dual between the first Bayonetta and Darksiders games. Both are the third entry in their respective series of religious-themed hack n' slash games, with Darksiders III now introducing a female character as its playable lead. There also the fact that Bayonetta's developer PlatinumGames was interested in buying the Darksiders series when it was auctioned off by THQ.
- With Devil May Cry 5, a fellow hack n' slash game that belongs to a series made by the same creator as Bayonetta and is developed by Capcom, a company where many of PlatinumGames' staff previously worked. The same console rivalry with Darksiders III also applies here.
- With No More Heroes III. Both are the third numbered major entry of a hack 'n slash series, released on the Nintendo Switch, with No More Heroes III's developer Grasshopper Manufacture having once helped develop for God Hand, a game created by Clover Studio, a company that PlatinumGames used to be. Also, they have similar Bait-and-Switch opening sequences.
Thing is, Bayonetta 3 is still an upcoming game, so how come is it "dueling" with games that are already released years ago?
Maybe it's a misuse since clicking Dueling Games leads us to DuelingWorks.Games, which says the examples "had just came out around the same time with the same theme", but it doesn't say how many years that "same time" is. The page lists an example between Onechanbara (2004) and Lollipop Chainsaw (2012), which are 8 years apart. Does this mean the Bayo 3 examples above can still be valid in the future if the game eventually gets released?
Lastly, why does Dueling Games redirect to DuelingWorks.Games? The former is listed as a Trivia trope in several video games' Trivia pages, but once you're in DuelingWorks.Games itself, the page also contains tabs for Main, Film, and Headscratchers... which seem to open up two other issues:
- Clicking the "Main" tab redirects you to Game Tropes.
- Clicking the "Film" tab leads you to a film's work page that only has one trope... which is YMMV.
It looks like the redirect for Dueling Games is misplaced.
Edited by DanteVinopen YMMV misuse(?)
Dalahan added/re-added these to YMMV.Dumbledores Army And The Year Of Darkness.
- Fan-Preferred Couple: The author is not as subtle as he thinks about his preferrence for the "Neville/Ginny" pairing. It is very jarring the way Ginny reffers to Harry's suffering in chapter one, completely forgetting that Harry charged head in to save her. Meanwhile praising Neville's none-existent achivements up to that point. Misuse as if the fan is authoring the work in question it's Author Preferred. FPC is also about overall fandom not individual fans.
- Fake Ultimate Hero
- Harry, the fic loves to portray Harry's struggles as lesser than Neville and co's. But since the fic IS cannon compliant then Harry is the one shouldering the war against Voldemort and in the end he is the one that finds the Horcruxes and destroy them alongside Ron and Hermione. It is his sacrifice and the protection that he casts over Hogwarts with it which is what allows Neville to kill Nagini and survive. And in the end it is HARRY who defeats Voldemort.
- [[DesignatedHero Neville]] and the DA themselves fit this trope more, though. While their struggles are portrayed as more dire than the ones of the main Trio. The truth is that they achieve very little or nothing at all. While remaining alive in the Death Eater run Hogwarts is commendable, it should be remembered that there are only THREE Death Eaters in Hogwarts. And the DA changes plays a very minor role in the Battle of Hogwart, the most they do is die horribly. I cut this from the main page as unintentional with the first entry arguing the opposite of this. They moved it to YMMV which is misuse. Designated Hero covers the later entry.
- Unintentionally Unsympathetic: Some reviewers on Tumblr have noted that the Darker and Edgier Elsewhere Fic nature of Dumbledore's Army has unintentionally made Harry, Ron, and Hermione this. If you read The Deathly Hallows while believing that the events of DAYD are happening in the background, every happy moment the Golden Trio has makes them look like callous jerks because so many people are dying horribly in the background. Most notable is the Ron/Hermione kiss. When you watch or read it without DAYD, it's a sweet and heartwarming moment that had been coming for a long time. But when it's viewed by someone who assumes DAYD is happening at the same time, Ron and Hermione look like heartless jerks for deciding to spit it out while people are being subjected to unholy amounts of gore, violence, and Body Horror just behind them. Then again, it's questionable how unintentional it was; there are several paragraphs in DAYD in which Neville notes that Harry, Ron and Hermione are healthier, less traumatized, and generally happier than everyone in Dumbledore's Army ever was. This led to some accusations of character-bashing, since the Golden Trio's struggles were always portrayed as less severe than those of Neville and his friends. And that is without taking into account the fact that most of the victory is owned to the Golden Trio’s actions—the D.A. was helpful during the battle, but most of its members ended up dying horribly without changing much, and the Trio were the ones who actually destroyed the Horcruxes. I deleted this as half the entry argued against itself, so if these are legit complaints they're not UU. They added it back citing "It is important part. Since the fic needs to make sure Harry and co. Look "less" than his "actual" hero, who genuinely speaking did nothing for the larger picture." which seems the opposite of this being unintentional.
The first one seems an honest misunderstanding of how it works. The other two are suspect such I'm bringing it here. Thoughts? Should I PM them about this?
Edited by Ferot_DreadnaughtopenRecap pages
I've noticed that Khalil Goodman has made recap pages that don't list any tropes, or/and that only list the first part of the episode's plot, like this:
(Also, Khalil's descriptions are plagiarized from official plot summaries, but I've already sent a notifier about that just now.)
Edited by MichaelKatsuroopenPolicy on dead links?
When it comes to examples that contain external links (Important note: I'm not talking about "examples" that are ENTIRELY links, I know those should just be cut), I'm finding that Link Rot is hitting this site more and more with time due to how long we've been around.
Now, normally I head to the Wayback Machine to necromance dead links. But that's not always possible; like, an example under Astonishingly Appropriate Interruption formerly had a link to a Smosh article that couldn't be restored. The example was still valid without the link, so I took out the link and kept the example, but the additional information it was there to give and cite was lost, which is something I still found unfortunate.
How often does this issue really come up? And how do we root around for where they lay, just manually clicking on each? Is there already a dedicated cleanup effort to finding dead links? (I can't access the forums to check for myself.)
open Split Award Bait Song?
I think we're getting a lot of scope drift here. Quickly going through the examples, I see the following major categories:
- Dreaming songs that are actually performed by the film cast within the film. Especially prevalent in Pre-Renaissance Disney films. A lot of these got award nominations, but they weren't "award bait" in the same sense as...
- Romantic ballad covers of songs within the film. Here's where Peabo Bryson and his ilk live. This is what I think the original intention of this trope was. The only pre-Disney Renaissance example I can think of off the top of my head is "Somewhere Out There" from An American Tail.
- Parodies of the Award-Bait Song formula.
- Real singers performing within the movie itself. Disney's Tarzan comes to mind. Not Award-baity in my opinion, just producers afraid of doing a real musical.
- Singles written specifically to win awards with no connection to a film soundtrack (i.e. the "Music" section). All of this is a different trope entirely.
- Songs for stage musicals should be a different page altogether.
- As should the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade and other live performances that aren't traditional concerts.
TLDR; "Won an award" does not mean "award bait." "Main song in a musical" does not mean "award bait."
In my opinion we need a cleanup and split into two pages: "A pop cover of a song within the movie" and "singles written specifically to abuse a formula and win an award, usually for nonmusicals."
Award-Bait Song would probably be the latter, with "Romantic Ballad Cover" or similar for the former.
open YMMV The Batman (2022)
User Bio Yugi removed these entries from "They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot" justifying it as trying to "pare down too many entries" to "what could have actually happened instead of wishful fanfic".
- In the last 10 minutes of the movie, it's revealed that one of the guys behind the Riddler masks is the same guy that in the funeral scene ranted about the "rich, privileged assholes" that ran Gotham. While this is still a major "oh shit" moment for Batman and one that changes his outlook upon the way he's changing Gotham, it would have been far more impactful if he was instead the guy he saved at the start and actually listened to Batman uttering the phrase to the terrified thugs that were about to beat him up. This would not only enhance the already present feeling that Bruce is doing very little to combat a system corrupted to the core, but that he's also sending the wrong message to the people he's supposed to be inspiring and saving. Alternatively, the kid he spared at the beginning could have helped him in the finale, cementing Batman's turn from a figure of fear to one who inspires and helps Gotham's population.
- Related to the above, the Riddler mentions that he isn't much for physical action and mainly relies on his brain. This could easily have set up for the previous murders to have been carried out by some of his followers, with Riddler only orchestrating things. Hints could have been placed in the movie to this possibility, offering an alternate means for realizing the danger in the finale.
- A minor case but some feel Batman should have revealed his identity to Selina Kyle at least near the end. Since Selina mentions Bruce Wayne’s name as one of those "corrupt, white, privileged" people she clearly despises, Batman coming out and revealing himself to her after sometime could have added some extra tension to their growing romance, as well as making her realize that they are both orphans who similarly lost their loved ones to corruption. The set-up is there for it as she mentions Bruce's name in disgust at least twice, but nothing is done with this despite the potential.
- Similarly, Bruce Wayne is in-universe seen as a reclusive and apathetic billionaire, who many characters make assumptions about without knowing because he's seemingly got zero public profile. Mayor-elect Reál proposes he should take part in philanthropy or local politics because of his family legacy, Falconé sees him as someone he can easily exploit and has been for years, and Riddler targets him in-part out of petty jealously but also because the Renewal program has been misappropriated due to his apathy. As the film deals with Batman's evolution from Terror Hero to Hope Bringer, it would have made sense for the climax to see him establish his classic "Bruce Wayne, billionaire Philanthropist" persona, or at least to make efforts to use his wealth more responsibly for Gotham's sake. Instead, while Bruce talks about bringing hope, it appears this amounts to reframing his Batman persona and the film ends without "Bruce" making any public efforts to help the city.
I don't want to engage on edit warring, so I came here to ask if it's ok to restore them or if Bio Yu Gi is right. By the trope standards, the possibility of the story following into the direction has to be stablished (which was done for all these examples, they don't come out of nowhere), but the work ends up doing nothing/little with them, so the "wishful fanfic" justification feels like the troper just disagreed with the examples here and wanted to remove them.
openComplainy entry in Vikings Valhalla
From YMMV.Vikings Valhalla:
- Fan Dumb: The reaction to casting African descended Caroline Henderson as jarl Haakon predictively stirred up disapproving reaction from history buffs and even more predictively from white supremacists. Several vloggers in both camps has created several videos about the real jarl Haakon. The issue being that most assumed the character to be a representation of Hákon Sigurðsson (more commonly known as Haakon jarl), while any one with access to wikipedia would quite quickly be able to tell that Hákon Sigurðsson was long dead and the character more likely represented his grandson Hákon Eiriksson. That confusion is pretty forgivable to a layman who would not know that there were 3 Hákon jarl (Hákon Sigurðsson's grandfather and grandson). But coming from people who claims to know everything about the viking age it comes off as very sloppy. Those who watched the show and knew of the figures would be able to tell that jarl Estrid Haakon barely resembles any historical or saga figure at all and it's very unclear if there was any serious intention from the writers to make her a representation of a historical figure.
Personally I'd rewrote the entry like this and put it either under Cowboy BeBop at His Computer or under Common Knowledge:
- The reaction to casting African descended Caroline Henderson as jarl Haakon predictively stirred up disapproving reaction from history buffs (and even more predictively, from white supremacists). Several vloggers created videos about the "real Jarl Haakon". The issue however is that most assumed the character to be a representation of Hákon Sigurðsson, who was dead before the events of the series, so the character could more likely represent his grandson Hákon Eiriksson. Either way, when the series was released, it was obvious that jarl Estrid Haakon barely resembles any historical or saga figure at all and it's very unclear if there was any serious intention from the writers to make her a representation of a historical figure.
openSid entry on YMMV/ToyStory
On YMMV.Toy Story 1, Alternative Character Interpretation has multiple entries for Sid, and they look disorganized, with not all of them looking like individual interpretations. Can someone take a look?
- Many fans don't think that Sid is necessarily evil. He's just a kid who is wildly creative and inventive. Though he may have a destructive streak, he isn't just out to blow up toys. He wants to see what makes them tick, and how to make them cool and different; some have gone on to say that the Mutant Toys are, in fact, art pieces with very deep meanings. If you really think about it, Sid had no idea the toys were alive, and his parents don't seem to pay much attention to him and Hannah. He is probably acting out for attention.
- In fact, aside from the cruel but darkly hilarious prank he plays on his sister, Sid doesn't do anything wrong. His destruction of toys comes out of both creativity and Parental Neglect. He does seem to love his dog.
- When Woody reveals to him the true nature of toys, Sid is traumatized because of what he's been doing. He's rambunctious but not sadistic, as evidenced by his love for his dog, so when he realizes that everything he's done was happening to living things he understands his actions and completely freaks out (assuming he wasn't freaking out over the realisation that he was about to get his comeuppance).
- Sid also has multiple locks on his door and the one scene where a parent is shown, his dad could be seen as being drunk or hungover. Victims of abuse often lash out at others, and Sid's disturbed "play activities" with his toys could be his way of taking out his feelings of vulnerability and helplessness, especially since he is always the one "in control" of his imagined scenario.
- The creators were fully aware of this and like to joke that Sid is "the kind of kid who would grow up to be an animator." They give an adult Sid a brief cameo in Toy Story 3, where we see him working as a garbageman. Though he comes off as something of a metalhead, there's no indication that he grew up to be anything other than a normal, well-balanced adult.
- Many fans don't think that Sid is necessarily evil. He's just a kid who is wildly creative and inventive. Though he may have a destructive streak, he isn't just out to blow up toys. He wants to see what makes them tick, and how to make them cool and different; some have gone on to say that the Mutant Toys are, in fact, art pieces with very deep meanings. If you really think about it, Sid had no idea the toys were alive, and his parents don't seem to pay much attention to him and Hannah. He is probably acting out for attention.
Also, does the first one count? Most audiences understand that Sid didn't know toys were alive.
openAre currently not-present music tracks allowed in Awesome Music pages?
I was browsing some work subpages, including Awesome Music, and wanted to add some entries. Problem is, the entries are of music that was once in the work or is in a sister project, but aren't in the work itself as of today. Are Awesome Music examples like these allowed? And why?

I think there's a minor edit war on the YMMV page
for Wuthering Heights.
Bennings
added a Common Knowledge entry about how it's "known" that all the characters are awful but only about half of them really are. (Never read the book myself, don't know anything about this.)
Bennings listed a few of these "awful" characters. caringguy
added a character named Hareton to the list, arguing he should be listed as awful if the character Nelly is, but Bennings deleted the addition with "No way in hell I'm giving you Hareton."
Edited by iamconstantine