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openWeblinks to facebook and image hosting websites Anime
Hi everyone,
While reading the Nightmare Fuel page of Kimetsu no Yaiba
, I encountered an entry in the "Red Light District Arc" (third bullet point, second sub-bullet) which contains two weblinks: one to a facebook page, and one to what I guess is an image hosting website (well, your guess is as good as mine regarding a website called "sportshub" being that kind of website). Both links are used to show screens of what the character looks like in the anime.
From Weblinks Are Not Examples, it seems it is frowned upon to use links like that. Moreover, the entry itself is written well enough to not necessitate those images. Thus I'm contacting tropers to ask if I should remove these links or leave them as is. I know there is a tolerance for some weblinks (namely when linking to songs - and even then, broken You Tube links happen quite often), but I'm not quite sure this qualify.
EDIT: There is another instance of this kind of link a little further actually, under the "Chapter 92-94/S 2 E 10:" bullet point of the same folder.
Edited by NonoRobotopen Without Sin: All Star Edition Western Animation
Hi there, I'm the author of the fanfic Loud House Story "Without Sin: All Star Edition". A fan made an entry here on the site... and it was brought to my attention the story was cut.
Now, be that as it may for the entry being cut, after reading the thread involved, I saw a gross mischarterization of my story and wanted to set the record straight.
For one, the story is not an endorsement of Incest, or child sexual action. There are no explicit sex scenes within the story. There are no 'lemons', no detailed scenes of characters engaged in the act of sex with one another.
For two, the story does not condone what has transpired between Lincoln in the "Sinverse" and his sisters. The quotes that were used in the thread were all from 'Sin Lincoln"'s perspective. He is biased, that's the point. He doesn't want to see what transpired between himself and his sisters as 'wrong'.
For three, the 'sins' of his family have resulted in one of his own children being a victim within the story of grooming.
What has happened to Lemy, with his aunt 'Lily' is not presented as good and wholesome, but quite the opposite.
The point of this story is to take a good hard look at the 'sinkids' fandom in the Loud House, and present the realistic circumstances that would have to take place for them to exist...with a Lincoln from another world who was not involved in an incestuous relationship with his sisters becoming involved and how he reacts to it.
The story is not an endorsement of incest, child sexualploitation or anything akin to that. It is a condemnation of those things... while still presenting the children that resulted from the actions as 'innocent' of their parents's collective sins.
While titlation does exist within the story, there are no sex scenes and there will be no sex scenes within the story. I can understand if you think the story still does not 'belong' on tvtropes but I wanted to set the record straight exactly on what the story is NOT.
It is not an erotic incest pedophiliac story meant for wank material.
It is instead an exploration of the fandom of the Loud House that often has an incest filtered Kink, but in a realistic manner with the consequences of those actions.
Thank you.
openWork example, fanwork quote
There's a number of Warhammer 40 K examples illustrated with a quote from If The Emperor Had A Text To Speech Device, a fanwork. Do they need to be removed or can they be left in since it's commenting on a canon occurence of a trope?
For instance, on Wretched Hive:
- The Dark Eldar are a race of Always Chaotic Evil Space Elves, and their capital Commorragh fit the trope. The city is ruled by warring kabals and the only semblance of government is the biggest kabal that's powerful enough to boss the others around. Getting killed by a total stranger in broad daylight (well, technically due to its location in the Webway there is no day and night cycle in Commorragh, only perpetual twilight) in the middle of a street is seen as a perfectly normal occurrence. [...]
The Emperor of Mankind: If there is one place you do not want to find yourself alone, it is that place. If the galaxy was a run-down town, Commorragh would be the local nightclub-turned-insane asylum.
- The Dark Eldar are a race of Always Chaotic Evil Space Elves, and their capital Commorragh fit the trope. The city is ruled by warring kabals and the only semblance of government is the biggest kabal that's powerful enough to boss the others around. Getting killed by a total stranger in broad daylight (well, technically due to its location in the Webway there is no day and night cycle in Commorragh, only perpetual twilight) in the middle of a street is seen as a perfectly normal occurrence. [...]
Berserk Button: misusing Nightmare Fuel
openWeird fetishy edit
On a Wiki Walk, I stumbled across Characters.Thumbelina 1994, where I noticed that the folder for Mrs. Fieldmouse described her as "An insanely sexy mouse lady". This edit was made in March
by rastapopoulos.
While it's a different kind of wrong, they also blanked
Characters.Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, a page they created themself.
Not sure if this is needing mod action just yet, but I felt like bringing it up.
resolved "Acceptable" H-games Videogame
Seeing that some H-games do get a page and some don't, I got a bit confused about how content rules actually work regarding those; just how H-games actually do get their pages and it gets decided "okay, those may stay"? Is there a pre-moderation for those? Or it's "take the risk now, get executed by a firing squad later if we don't like it"? And what are the signs that there's a point to even bother, that it may pass?
I have one in mind (it's Overgrown: Genesis), as I genuinely like it (for its story and characters; was genuinely surprised myself at first, I originally only looked for something short which I can translate for practice), but want to make sure before even bothering with drafting, as it's better to throw out an idea than hours or days of writing. I wouldn't put it in sandbox until later anyway, but want to know in advance.
It's set After the End (Zombie Apocalypse, similar to one in Last of Us; albeit backstory is closer to the series rather than the games, despite predating it), and has rather bleak atmosphere; it starts as a story of survivor who was backstabbed and left for dead on the first field operation, but gradually becomes a battle for survival of humanity. Gameplay-wise, it's Survival Horror. It seems that almost entire H-content is avoidable; few scenes happens regardless of the player's actions, but it should be entirely possible to just write without mentioning them.
openEdit War Web Original
On the recap page for RWBY's final episode for Volume 9
:
- Full Metal Heart 20 added a Surprisingly Realistic Outcome entry tackling Ruby's ascension
.
- It was deemed misuse by Wyldchyld, who deleted it
about four hours after it was added.
- Full Metal Heart 20 re-added the entry, albeit worded differently
with no given edit reason.
openCouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot misuse/edit wars?
Quotes.Could Have Avoided This Plot
Ohvist first added the Suicide Squad quote. I deleted them as "Could Have Avoided This!" Plot is about in-universe characters acknowledging such (I believe I recall asking and being told reviewers doing it in their shows is misuse). Ohvist later added it back. Later Hotaru3 added the NIMH 2 quote. IchigoMontoya deleted both without edit reason. Hotaru3 added both back.
Besides the apparent edit warring, is this misuse if it's out of universe reviewers stating such even within their own shows universe?
openEdit War?
So on Scream VI Repo added
this Ass Pull entry:
- Mindy's survival becomes one in hindsight - after being stabbed by Ghostface and left for dead, Ethan comes in and saves her life. Only one problem - Ethan is one of the Ghostface killers himself and specifically wants to kill Mindy, yet saves her life anyways for no explicable reason.
Which later had this added to it
by a seperate troper.
- Although some believe that was merely a coordinated plan to take Mindy's suspicion off of him, and less a serious attempt on her life. Mindy does seem to take back her accusation when he saves her - although when she shows up again at the end of the film, she still has him pegged as one of the killers.
Repo later changed
it to this:
- Although some believe that was merely a coordinated plan to take Mindy's suspicion off of him, and less a serious attempt on her life. Mindy does seem to take back her accusation when he saves her - although it comes with two caveats: (1) Ethan disappears from the movie until his inevitable reveal, minimizing the motivation to obscure his identity as he'll next be seen revealing it, and (2) Mindy ultimately still shows up again at the end of the film having Ethan completely pegged as one of the killers.
However then the whole thing was cut
by Hfxjfrvnn citing "Justifying edit".
Repo then added
this new and nearly identical entry without saying why is the edit reason or discussing it anywhere from what I can tell:
- Mindy's survival serves as this for a sizable chunk of the audience as well - specifically because Ethan, a killer who wants her dead, saves her for no apparent reason other than to lower audience suspicion of him. While it's theoretically possible that Ethan is using this to establish some sort of alibi to throw the other characters off, the motivation behind it seems unclear when he vanishes from the rest of the movie and isn't seen again until his reveal, eliminating any benefit to lowering their suspicions.
I don't know if this counts or not but I have slightly bigger conern. Is this now an edit war? I'm unsure.
Edited by BullmanopenAnyone here read the Natalie Cooper series? Might need assistance. Literature
To explain, it's a Halo fanfic saga written by an author named ilmiopassato. I've made a page for it since December last year, though with the saga being 8-stories long, it'd be a huge workload adding trope examples and plenty of tabs for the page by myself.
I'll link the page for the saga here:
https://www.fanfiction.net/u/446883/ilmiopassato
If any tropers here have read the series and are willing to help, shoot me a DM as soon as possible.
Edited by Hawkster94openPossible Singlehanded Decision?
So I was reading a page, and came across a Take That Us link, which I remember three days ago used to redirect to Self-Deprecation.
But apparently, prettycoolguy changed it into a disambiguation link
.
Was this talked about anywhere? I didn't see any discussion about it, and the edit reason makes me believe they decided this entirely on their own.
Edited by Steven-KeysopenEditing Etiquette for Large-Scale Edits Literature
Having recently caught up to the English release of a particular Light Novel, I went to its Tv Tropes page and noticed it was quite lacking, and figured I'd help fill it out myself as the series isn't very popular.
However, rather than make edits in pieces I decided to make a copy of the latest version of the main page and work on it over time little by little with google docs; automatically saved, backed up and easier to keep track of changes or notes that way.
The question being, when I finish at some point and start moving the changes over to the main page, would it be preferable to do so in batches with appropriate Editing Reasons? I fear if I just slapped the revamped main page edits into the site at once, a mod could think I'm messing around and I definitely don't want to give that impression.
I'm going to take a few days at minimum on this little project anyway.
openMultiple issues
mattmcc appears to have multiple issues with adding ZCE entries, tropeslashing and some weird use of spoiler tagging, including sometimes spoiler tagging the trope name itself and placing spoiler tags into descriptions above the trope lists. Examples of all these can be seen on Characters.RWBY Blake Belladonna dated the 26th March 2023. When I tried to clean up some of this (such as removing the tropeslashing), they added it back, so edit warred as well. Other tropers have cleaned up some of this, but the tropeslashing is still on the page — can I go ahead and remove that?
Edited to add: they seem to have issues on other pages as well, such as removing commented out tags on WebAnimation.Murder Drones page (8th April 2023) without adding any context to stop the entries from being ZCE or lacking citation references.
Edited by Wyldchyldopen Weirdly off-topic poster.
We're having a bit of an issue over on Complete Monster cleanup thread with a troper Molokai198
whose umh really disruptive and off-topic with some offputting comments.
- This one was a very strange comment arguing about whether infecting people with HIV
is horrible?
- Their was this weird time they just went off-topic to ask about the contents of an article
about Purdue and the Opoid crisis.
- Now we've gotten this post
which featured this shockingly bad statement.
This is just both incoherent and offensive.
He also doesn't vote On anything so much as the questions.
Like the fact this has happened three separate times.
Edited by MacronNotesopenHow to approach adressing a problematic aspect of this work(Little Witch Nobeta) Videogame
Considering addressing the Little devs offical Twitter provocative posts but not sure how to approach it given the account contains explicit posts over the protagonist and bosses.
Mainly because it's worth discussing since the game it's self is rather tame, outisde a few questionable outifts, and takes its self seriously but the offical twitter accounts post brazenly erotic and suggestive posts from time to time enough that it's rather noticeably jarring to compare the two.
Note this is an issue mainly because of this site's stance on "pedobait"
Though on a more minor not sure what tag to use for a "sexual advertisement tame work" kind of thing.
open Requesting Edit Revert... On Myself.
I copy-pasted a version of the page I edited in another tab, but hit paste too many times and made a mess.
openMediation needed
@Imjustme and I have a conflict that we need some third-party mediation on. We tried talking it out, but we quite simply disagree and talking about it didn't make us agree more. (We agree on the mediation bit, though XD)
Background: In Interview with the Vampire (2022), there's an Age Lift: in the book Claudia was turned into a vampire when she was 5, and thus immortalized as that age. In the show this is aged up to 14, and then played by 18-at-the-time Bailey Bass.
I want to add a few lines talking about the ways that this Age Lift does and doesn't work. Imjustme thinks that what I'm saying is subjective and should be on YMMV. I think it's fairly objective.
My side: While I think the Age Lift was a good logistical decision for all the Analysis.Dawson Casting reasons, I think it also creates some issues because Claudia's youth is a key plot point. I want to add a few lines to the page talking about that.
Occasionally the script claims Claudia is not just 14, but specifically prepubescent:
Dawson Casting works (to the extent that it does work) because teens grow up at different rates. There's more than one stage a young teen could plausibility be at. A 14-year-old might be pubescent, or postpubescent, or maybe (albeit uncommonly) prepubescent. It depends on the person. When the dialogue says Claudia is supposedly prepubescent, that wiggle room is lost.
I think Bailey Bass is reasonably believable as a postpubescent 14-year-old, but not as prepubescent. The discrepancy between actor and dialogue creates what I think can reasonably be termed an Adaptation-Induced Plot Hole.
Imjustme thinks this is subjective and should be on YMMV. I disagree; I think saying virtually no 18-year-old can pass as prepubescent is an objective, grounded thing to say.
@Imjustme, your turn, explain your side.
Edited by Eievieopen Reporting Edit Warring and Vandalism Live Action TV
Editor Rm74 has made repeated edits in the Euphoria pages (Character
and YMMV
as far as I know, but I haven’t checked the other Euphoria pages) that exaggerate a character’s negative traits and actions beyond reason— even outright making stuff up about them that they haven’t done or that they aren’t— and a lot of their edits are simply bizarre. I know that YMMV is opinion based, but even still their edits are beyond exaggeration, or even again just them making stuff up. Myself and some other editors have made attempts to fix these Ron The Death Eater style edits, but RM74 has repeatedly gone and added them back in or made new outlandish edits.

Troper Doctor Sleep originally added the following Deconstructed Character Archetype for Bowser in The Super Mario Bros. Movie:
"Bowser's violent tendencies and delusion that Peach would be into him are deconstructions of video game protagonists like Mario. He gains rewards by destroying anyone and anything that's different to himself and looting their kingdoms for treasure all so he can impress a princess that he sees as little more than another trophy."
This was later deleted with the reasoning that Mario's archetype (in most games) is as a working class hero who rescues a princess—without expectation of a relationship in return—from a villain, which has nothing to do with Bowser being a bully and feeling entitled to Peach.
Doctor Sleep later readded
this entry under Corrupted Character Copy, with some wording alterations (notably still insisting that Bowser is a deconstruction of Mario.) Setting aside the fact that this is misuse because Bowser is not an expy of Mario, is this an edit war?
For the record I think to suggest Bowser in the movie is a "deconstruction of protagonists like Mario" at all is incorrect. Mario as a protagonist does not attack all things different from him, he defends peaceful creatures from harmful ones. He does not do all of this to impress Peach, he usually does it for the motivation that it is simply the right thing to do. And Bowser in the movie does not rove around looting other worlds (he loots just one, because it specifically had something he wanted, and then he heads straight to the mushroom kingdom for Peach.) He is not motivated to attack things because they are "different from him", he attacks things because he is an ill-tempered bully. His entitlement to Peach is not based on him seeing himself as a "hero" to impress her, it is based on wanting to conquer everyone as husband and wife. In the movie, as in the games, he is simply the bad role model to Mario's good one, not an evil version of Mario.