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openUgh...! Western Animation
Just look at this grammar!
From Making Fiends:
- Production Posse: Peter Merryman is the voice of Amy Winfrey's Big Bunny. Amy Winfrey herself, who has also done voices in her other cartoons.
I dealt with it via one of my usual manners: commented it out until a way could be found to salvage this mess.
open Is it okay to remove Awesome moments? Western Animation
There's an entry over in Popeye that sounds awesome at first- Popeye beating up a jerk and helping out a poor kid- until one realizes that it's a pure Designated Hero moment for Popeye himself as the guy was being a jerk but not being a criminal whereas Popeye himself considers committing multiple crimes (assault, destruction of property, theft) a "good deed." It feels like such a cringe-worthy moment for the legacy of such a great character that I brought it up in the Discussion page there but I'm not holding my breath for any replies. YMMV, of course. I just want to make sure it's okay to do so with good reason as I've had people remove things I've added to Awesome pages in the past since they edited based on their point of view.
openDuplicate character folder on Zootopia character sheet Western Animation
I can only access the Internet on my phone right now, which is why I'm not fixing this myself. Somebody mistakenly added a "Mr. Otterton" folder to the Characters.Zootopia page when there was already an "Emmett Otterton" folder. Can someone who has access to a connection with a computer please merge any non-duplicated information from the "Mr. Otterton" folder to the "Emmett Otterton" folder?
openNo Title Western Animation
Since not long after the show premiered, there's been an edit war going on on the character pages for RWBY about whether or not Ambiguous Disorder applies to the protagonist Ruby, and it's about time this got settled once and for all.
The issue has been in discussion here
for the past few days, but there simply hasn't been enough turnout for any clear consensus to be achieved, leaving the discussion at an impasse.
I personally favor the idea that Ruby may have some form of (high funcitoning) autism; this was an observation I initially made intuitively, having a professional diagnosis of Aspergers myself, but going through the diagnostic criteria for the disorder, specifically the DSM-4-TR criteria for Asperger's along with the Adult Asperger's assessment, she seems to fit enough of the criteria to merit a diagnosis.
It may seem like overkill to do that, but this trope has been added, removed, and readded around 5 times since the main characters page was split into teams RWBY and JNPR based on the history. In fact, if my memory serves, this was going on back when the trope was known as "Ambiguously Autistic." It has since been changed into a more generic trope for a character who behaves in a manner which is suggestive of a disorder, but it still applies as far as I can tell.
The full walk-through of the criteria and how I believe they apply to this character can be found on the discussion page I linked to, note that it's a nearly four page long explanation complete with citations, so I'd rather not re-post that to ask the tropers for fear of clogging up the entire page. Nevertheless, some great points were made on the discussion page, so I'd strongly recommend people interested in weighing on on this issue read it.
openNo Title Western Animation
I asked a question in the Ed Edd n Eddy character's page discussion, but I never got an answer and I don't know where else to ask. Should we moved to Ship Tease trope in the 'all three Eds' folder, since it has to do with all three of them?
Also...I'll be blunt. In the E En E Ho Yay page should we make a folder in the page involving all three of the Eds(like they did with say the South Park Ho Yay page? I'd do it myself, but I wanted to play the safe side and ask.
Ah, while I'm here, I'll also ask this. Should we also put Single Woman Seeks Good Man in Nazz's character section, since she shown hints of liking Edd(May I have this Ed?) or should it remain in the Ship Tease example?
openNo Title Western Animation
Okay, major spoilers for The Legend of Korra. If you haven't seen the Grand Finale and think you might, just close the folder and move on.
Anyway, the series ended with Korra getting together with Asami, about as clearly as they could make a same-sex couple on Nickelodeon. The problem is, people keep adding that scene to the Ho Yay
page, when it was clearly intended by the creators to he very homoerotic from the getgo (thus Homoerotic Subtext, not Ho Yay). In fact, the example currently on there (I've deleted two different writeups and explained myself, but I don't want to delete another) specifically says it's "technically not an example."
I get the desire to put it on there, but given Ho Yay is chronically misused to mean "any gay stuff at all," I don't think it should be on the page. Also, I'd like to get a mod's okay to put a commented out notice not to mention the finale, since it's Homoerotic Subtext and not Ho Yay.
Edited by LarkmarnopenNo Title Western Animation
I saw this description on Adventures of the Gummi Bears page and I was wondering if this should be allowed on this page:
At the most uncharitable, you could call this series Disney's late answer to The Littl' Bits (The Little Bits coming out in 1980; this came out in 1985), but it's more accurate to call it Disney's attempt to show how to do the premise right. Apart from obviously lavish animation, the series addressed the major complaints of Tatsunoko's series and the basic ideology of the 1980s; for instance, individuality is celebrated in proper proportion to the value of cooperation and the primary characters are far more nuanced with carefully considered flaws and strengths. Furthermore, the female characters avoid The Smurfette Principle, with multiple characters with strong well-defined personalities who bow to no one.
I brought this up because I'm not sure if this information really does pertain to the show exactly and it sounded it bit like a personal statement about the 1980s rather than the show itself. But, I was wondering if this should be removed or is it fine where it is?
Edited by RabbitearsblogopenNo Title Western Animation
Kinda worrisome edit here
.
The edit reason is worrisome because it feels a bit possessive and doesn't seem to have any idea of what Knight of Cerebus actually is. I can't be certain because the edit itself is entirely without context. Plus they added a... banner? I don't know what to call it but a random hunk of text in irregular format telling people not to add any more (which is odd because I'm not even finding any entries in the history).
openNo Title Western Animation
This is the first time I'm actually snitching on myself, but I think it's best for a mod to show up on the discussions page for the character sheet for the movie Frozen because I got into a heated argument with a troper regarding abusive parents ,before things get ugly fast.
openNo Title Western Animation
Is it okay if I make a Self-Demonstrating Article (character page) for Cartman from South Park?
openNo Title Western Animation
Someone is vandalizing the My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic - Season 4 page. I would clean it out myself, but my internet is down and I'm on my phone.
openNo Title Western Animation
There's a page I came across where I'm not sure how to handle it.
The Governator, a show that was to be about a fictionalized version of Arnold Schwarzenegger as a Bruce Wayne/Batman type superhero. However, the show itself never made it to the air, due to a personal scandal involving AS. Should the old version be returned and cleaned up for Examples Are Not Recent issues, or just zap the new one as a stub (albeit with 63 inbounds, so the Cut List is out)?
The problem is that the current version of the page isn't the original one. The old one has a lot more tropes, but it was based solely on promotional materials, with a lot of "seems like", "appears", and so forth.
I checked the directory for ongoing project threads
but didn't see anything that seemed like it would be an appropriate place to bring this issue up.
openNo Title Western Animation
Hi there! I'm here to report a potential case of vandalism.
This
is the page history for The Simpsons, an article I fixed myself in the great Nightmare Fuel cleanup. I noticed there was something odd about the length of the "General" section of the article, as it was considerably shorter than I remembered it to be. Then I found a quote in the "Treehouse Of Horror" section that wasn't supposed to be there, namely Sideshow Bob's "Or so I thought" from the "The Bob Next Door" episode in which he tears off his face (long story). The line of dialogue comes from his Internal Monologue during the aforementioned scene, and I can recall the episode was among the examples listed in the article, but now it's not there anymore.
Thing is, I suspect some vandalism has happened, but I can't quite get some clue about what actually happened precisely because I can't explore the (long) page history without getting kind of lost. Anyone want to help me out a little bit with this one?
Thanks in advance, as usual! :-)
openNo Title Western Animation
On the My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic Non Canon page, the last three entries are for clopfics (sexually explicit MLP:FIM fanfics). Since the new guidelines say no porn on the wiki, does this cover examples from works that don't have a trope page too? Here are the entries in question.
- That Night Atop The Tower
takes Cadence's status as The Woobie and takes it Up To Eleven. How? Celestia reveals to Cadence that, as an Alicorn, she's immortal and will outlive Shining Armor, also revealing Celestia herself suffered the exact same thing. Once Cadence recovers from that bombshell, resolving to remain with Shining Armor, she returns to their bedroom...and is promptly pulled through a mirror by Queen Chrysalis who proceeds to force her to watch as she makes love to Shining Armor right in front of her.
- Hormones
. Spike goes through puberty, and not being able to deal with his urges, eventually ends up raping Winona. Caught in the act by Applejack, he runs home ridden with guilt, knowing that his reputation in town and all his friendships are ruined forever, and hangs himself in the basement. The ending where Twilight finds him is heartbreaking enough, but then few weeks later the author wrote an epilogue about Twi having to deal with the loss, which gets even more depressing.
- The otherwise hilarious fanfic Estrus
has a moment where Fluttershy reveals that her parents were relgious fundamentalists comparable to Margaret White, - prompting a hug from Pinkie Pie - as well as a brief moment where Pinkie wonders if she might be adopted and looks crestfallen - though it only lasts for a split-second, not long enough for Fluttershy to return the hug.
openNo Title Western Animation
There's some Edit warring on the Cartoon Network page. Tropers.I Am Boring keeps removing and changing any content that mentions the "CN Real" and "renaissance" eras (and a few other things too) on the page to whatever he wants, only saying "No YMMV items on the main page", which is ironic considering that he himself has put YMMV stuff on the main page (not to mention that there is a bunch of YMMV stuff still there, even before this edit war), and really sounds more like "I want this description done my way" rather than issues of having subjective tropes. I even tried to make a compromise, but he just continued on with his edit warring. Can I get a resolution on this? Yes the network has been in a bit of a rut lately, but I know that we can describe the network with a description that can make all sides happy.
Also, what is the rule when it comes to YMMV and Audience Reaction potholes and mentions when it comes to a work's/network's/creator's/etc. description? The only thing I know is that these shouldn’t be used as an example to a trope with the exception of In-Universe examples. If there’s a rule using those in a description, then all I can say that it is poorly enforced around the wiki. If not, then I smell a need for mod intervention on this page.
Edited by GundamforceopenNo Title Western Animation
- sigh* Okay. I've just added a new article (no information yet except for the title) to the Western Animation index, but it's been Red Linked. I'm positive that I haven't made any spelling errors and that the page exists, because when I search its title, I am linked to an article with that title, which says "Click the edit button to start this new page". It also says that the page hasn't been indexed yet, even though I have added it to Western Animation. I don't mean to be a nuisance with all the questions about indexing and whatnot that I've been asking, and I promise that I'm trying to be as self-sufficient as possible, but can anyone help out a frustrated newbie and tell me why my article has been Red Linked and what I can do to fix it? Thanks.
openNo Title Western Animation
Hi there! I am a brand-new troper (cue moans of exasperation from veteran tropers) who wishes to create an article for a show that doesn't have one yet. But it looks like someone has already begun creating one; when I search the title of the show, I'm linked to an article that is completely blank except for the title. The site tells me that the first thing I need to do is to create an index, and I'm confused. What should I link to in the index? Just "Western Animation" itself, or other Western Animation shows? Do I link to tropes that appear in the show? I've even seen some indexes that are alphabetical; should I do that? Any instructions for a first-timer on how to create an index for a new article? Thank you so much!
openNo Title Western Animation
I would like to introduce a new series and am a little unsure of how to put it on. The Series is called "Zula Patrol", which is -quoting from its website-:The Zula Patrol, a 3D/CG animated children's show, is designed to entertain while promoting an understanding of science and astronomy through engaging character-driven stories, which focus on specific educational science learning objectives. In every episode of The Zula Patrol, the characters demonstrate inquiry-based learning and critical thinking skills. They also model inquisitiveness, observation, self-reflection, and social experiences that encourage collaboration, teamwork, and an excitement for scientific exploration and problem solving.
The Zula Patrol television show is a part of Zula's Pre K - 3rd Grade curriculum titled Zula's Exploration Mission Modules and Afterschool Program titled Zula's Afterschool Discovery Program. Both the school and afterschool programs provide all materials needed for children to view and discuss an episode of The Zula Patrol, read a similarly themed book, complete a similarly themed hands-on activity, and go online to Zula World.com for a technology-based exploration of the program topics. "-www.zula.com/main.php
What the website does not mention is that for every new science principle that they introduce, they break at least one scientific principle.

The description on Van Beuren Studios is taken from a blog post about the studio on another website. I was just randomly browsing articles and don't actually know anything about it, so I don't feel comfortable rewriting it myself. Can someone write an original description for the page?