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openNo Title
Apologies if too early to go here but I just moved to discussion (and deleted) agenda-dirven edits by Gunarm Dyne
on A Christmas Carol.
I don't mean to engage in an edit war, but it's basically the usual Objectivist "Scrooge as hero; Cratchett as villain" that seems to turn up periodically here and elsewhere in discussions of the book.
Edited by Hodor2openNo Title
Uh...."cloud-to-butt" alert over at Super Smash Bros., leading to unintentional hilarity. "Butt Strife," anyone?
EDIT: Never mind, I fixed it, but still.
Edited by katethegr8openNo Title Live Action TV
Have a problem in YMMV.The Walking Dead TV Show. There's a troper by the handle of NJE91 who's deleting entries without explanation or apparent reason. Jumped the Shark was nuked on the 14th, and then restored by another troper, and now he's deleting entries under Narm.
openNo Title
Ran across either someone with a very bizarre and long-standing autocorrect problem or a very juvenile vandal. Not sure how long they've been doing it, but the last few edits by the user walale12 have included the following edits to other example entries while making legitimate-seeming posts:
- multiple instances of the word "car" being replaced with the word "cat"
- multiple instances of "electric" being replaced with "atomic"
- multiple instances of "force" being replaced with the word "horse"
- "space" becoming "spaaaace"
- "batman" becoming "a man dressed as a bat"
- "witness" becoming "this dude i know"
- "senator" becoming "elf-lord" (I admit this one made me chuckle in a "score one for the childish moron" sort of way)
Fixed their work on Textbook Humor already, but there's more on Metal Gear and Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain. There also seem to be at least a few stretches of legitimate posts, but probably wouldn't be a bad idea if someone with Super OCD were to plow through their edits and check for more shenanigans.
openYMMV links in work descriptions
According to What Goes Where on the Wiki:
- Links and potholes in the descriptions and related tropes sections are also fine for YMMV and objective trope articles, as long as you keep the overall tone neutral. Not so much for descriptions of works (bold mine).
So does that mean things like So Bad, It's Good and Narm should stay off work descriptions (excluding notorious examples like Plan 9)?
Edited by supergodopenAbout ending tropes...
Can ending tropes (like Bittersweet Ending or Bolivian Army Ending or...) be used for Season Finales? I'm curious because someone in a page I watched said that they can't.
openThere's a complaint disguised as a Tear Jerker entry On Sesame Street
Its all about how now Sesame Street has sold out and is now on the evil clutches of comercialism and that it should have ended this year. I was wanting to have people people look at that page before but didnt because it was just Narmy for me (SESAME STREET IS NOW ON HBO BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW) but I know that this time it really isnt kosher.
openNarm subpages
I noticed the subpages of Narm mark it as flame bait, but the page itself is only YMMV. Is this a mistake?
openBolivianArmyEnding
Can I delete The Familiar of Zero example on Bolivian Army Ending, which seems to be based on Fanon not Canon? (it says "ignore the last five minutes") Fighteer summarised the trope in Edit Banned and it seems that this is clearly misuse.
Some of the examples on Bolivian Army Ending fit better on Bolivian Army Cliffhanger instead, as well.
Edited by TheOneWhoTropesopenNarm/WebOriginal
How is this any different from the PRLC'd New Media page? Seems like it's asking for stealth examples to be added (and one already has by the looks of it; Facebook falls smack into RL troping.
open Excessive realism of teenage life makes adult viewers feel uncomfortable. Anime
If teenage experiences in anime are so innocent and realistic that a viewer over 25 years old will simply feel uncomfortable because of the feeling that he is watching the living innocent children, that is it closer to Narm or Squick?
openMass deletions on Narm/GameOfThrones
The troper https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/el.php?findfor=ArgonianLorekeeper
is deleting en masse multiple entries on the Narm page for Game of Thrones. He keeps citing ZCE as an excuse when some of the entries are an entire paragraph.
I sent him a deleting ymmv warning via PM but he is continuing.
Can someone send him a message and restore what he had deleted?
open YMMV equivelent of Dude Not Funny
Since Dude Not Funny was changed to In Universe Examples Only due to most of the examples listed on the trope page being in universe, I want to know what trope would work to replace Dude Not Funny for YMMV. What trope should be listed when referring to a scene in a movie or something that is supposed to be funny that the real life audience gets offended by? Do you list an inversion of Narm or what? There better be one, how else are we supposed to complain about offensive scenes like that?
Edited by bobgopen Is this Narm?
From YMMV.Blaz Blue Cross Tag Battle.
- Much like Jump Force, the very idea of these franchises crossing fates can be this in some circles of the internet. Due to the massive power gap between BlazBlue and the other three series, many find the idea that any of these characters realistically taking on the BlazBlue protagonists and antagonists to be laughable. This video
sums it up pretty nicely. There pretty much seems to be an agreement that the other franchises would get decimated if this were realistically played out.
Don't think it's being unintentionally funny by accident.
Edited by WhirlRXopenWhat to do with Film.Hellboy Film
Film.Hellboy previously covered both Hellboy (2004) and Hellboy II: The Golden Army. I split those into separate articles earlier today, and I was just wondering what I should do with the original page.
Cut List it? Make it a redirect for Film.Hellboy 2004 or Franchise.Hellboy?
Edited by Primisopen Captain Marvel Edit War
Okay so the title may be an exaggeration but I have been finding some examples for Captain Marvel which I feel would fit. However since I don't want to Edit War I am looking for some second opinions. The examples deleted are as follows:
- Artistic License – Military: Women weren't able to serve as fighter pilots until 1993 so Carol and Maria wouldn't be able to fly around in fighter jets. They would be flying in Tankers. (Reason, The Film said they weren't flying in combat, except we still they were flying combat aircraft and I never mentioned if they were flying in combat or not just bringing they shouldn't be flying jets at all.)
- Bond Villain Stupidity: Yon-Rogg decides to challenge to a fist fight instead of just shooting her for no particular reason. (not mine but was removed with no edit reason given.)
- Narm (on the YMMV page)
- Carol's constant use of her energy as The All-Solving Hammer becomes this after all while. Particularly in the bar where she uses to destroy a Jukebox to "prove" she was not Skrull to someone who she knew heard about them less than a few hours ago.
- Talos drinking from a soda cup when confronting Carol and Fury at the Rambeau's house robs most of the tension from the scene. (both remove they were meant to funny when Narm but the fact remains deliberate or not they make no sense and in the latter the scene continues like the moment didn't happen at all.)
- Vanilla Protagonist: One criticism leveled towards the film is that the titular Captain Marvel comes across as very plain and boring compared to many of the other protagonists in their origin movie. She isn't terrible mind you, but to some she feels very plain and less compelling, which given how she is supposed to become the face of the MCU after the next Avengers film, has left some feeling concerned what direction her character will go. (a puedo-reason was saying she wasn't one in this movie but no elaboration)

What should be done about YMMV items which miss the point of the reaction?
Say for example somebody lists a scene as having Narm, but the scene itself was intended as Bathos full stop?