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openwondering about a previous spambot
So, in forum games, there's a thread called Six Degrees of everything that was made by my friend TalesOfUnder. However, they just noticed around now that somehow the thread got stolen by a spambot.
The two of us decided that it would be best to ask if any mods had already dealt with this account. I personally would also think that it might be best to thump the post if it cannot be returned back to Tales.
openOpinions in examples?
I don't know what this phenomenon is called, or if it falls into a site policy or culture thing, but what's up with examples that shoehorn in stuff like "[Review] points out", "as [website] said in their review", "according to [You Tube personality]", "In a review by [critic]"...
I've tried a bunch of searches trying to identify what this falls under and maybe I'm just using the wrong search terms. But what is this and should it be removed/rewritten when found?
Berserk Button: misusing Nightmare Fuel
openProblem troper
Yuunoa And Mikrul Shipper has a lot of problem edits:
- [1]
Adding a poorly-cited Unfortunate Implications example, which also failed to properly format a link.
- [2]
Zero-Context Example with bad formatting (if you scroll up, you can see that they tried a few times to get the formatting right)
- Making ValiDate: Struggling Singles In Your Area with no tropes, a description lifted from the game's official website, a character subpage rife with Zero-Context Examples and trope-less characters, and a YMMV page with lots of complaining (as well as more bad examples, including a link to So Bad Its Awful—yes, really).
EDIT: They've responded here in the TLP Crash Rescue thread
.
openIs Data Vampires a reportable offence?
I was wondering just that. I'm aware that Data Vampires happen accidentally but i have noticed one particular troper (Agent Skyblue M 7) has "accidentally" messed up pages way too many times, deleting half of the content for a minor edit.
I just wanted to report this because it has happened way too many times now. Sure, it can be accidental but after a while it gets tiring. (If you are curious, check their history, in the pantheon pages we had to fix their edits because they keep breaking the pages
open Is this allowed.
On The Devil Wears Prada HarleyQuinnIsGreat just added these entries
.
- Informed Wrongness:
- Specifically, Ambition Is Evil. A popular criticism of the movie is that Andy is painted as having gone over to the dark side for having somewhat less time to spend with her boyfriend, family and friends, who are all constantly giving her shit for having a job they don't approve of and implying that she's probably bad at it anyway since they never knew her to be interested in fashion. And in spite of taking this approach, it also passes on the chance to do a Beautiful All Along — Andy gives away most of her designer stuff at the end, but she remains the thinner, sleek-haired, flatteringly-made-up, well-dressed woman she learned to be working at Runway.
- It is also worth noting that a key part of Andy's arc has to do with her relationship with her boyfriend, which gets rocky because he doesn't like the ways her job is "changing her" (it doesn't make sense in context either), or that she works such long hours. At one point we see Miranda and her husband arguing bitterly, evidently for similar reasons; and at the end of the film Miranda reveals that her husband has asked her for a divorce. Soon after this, Andy leaves her job and Miranda, tearfully apologizes to Nate and tells him that he was "right about everything".
The thing is that this is the same entries that Ferot_Dreadnaught deleted a few days ago here
.
- Family-Unfriendly Aesop:
- Specifically, Ambition Is Evil. A popular criticism of the movie is that Andy is painted as having gone over to the dark side for having somewhat less time to spend with her boyfriend, family and friends, who are all constantly giving her shit for having a job they don't approve of and implying that she's probably bad at it anyway since they never knew her to be interested in fashion. And in spite of taking this approach, it also passes on the chance to do a Beautiful All Along — Andy gives away most of her designer stuff at the end, but she remains the thinner, sleek-haired, flatteringly-made-up, well-dressed woman she learned to be working at Runway.
- It is also worth noting that a key part of Andy's arc has to do with her relationship with her boyfriend, which gets rocky because he doesn't like the ways her job is "changing her" (it doesn't make sense in context either), or that she works such long hours. At one point we see Miranda and her husband arguing bitterly, evidently for similar reasons; and at the end of the film Miranda reveals that her husband has asked her for a divorce. Soon after this, Andy leaves her job and Miranda, tearfully apologizes to Nate and tells him that he was "right about everything".
Is this allowed.
Edited by BullmanopenComplaining on Modern Warfare (2019) Videogame
David7204
left a ton of complaining on Call of Duty: Modern Warfare (2019). While I know there's been discourse about the usual "Russians bad, 'merika good" track and historical war crimes being attributed to the Russians instead of Americans, this seemed more fit for the YMMV page. Am I okay to delete it?
openEdit War Over a Too-Early Broken Base Videogame
YMMV.Paper Mario The Origami King
Tropemaster 849 has added a Broken Base entry regarding the combat of Paper Mario: The Origami King, a game that was released in mid-July of 2020 and still has yet to reach the six month threshold; initially added by them last night, then removed by yours truly, then reinstated by them today.
openProblematic Dethroning Entry
DethroningMoment.Yu Gi Oh had an entry added that ended with a troper saying Studio Gallop should burn instead of Kyo Ani, which references an incident
where someone set the Kyoto Animation studio on fire, killing and injuring many.
That's not kosher, right?
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=DethroningMoment.YuGiOh
openMassive Wipe of the Useful Notes / Planets page.
The whole UsefulNotes.Planets page got wiped and all of its previous contents replaced. According to the edit history
, a troper named Pickly did it on May 24, 2020, and they left no edit reason for it.
Was the revamp ever discussed and approved by any chance? Because the only commented-out notes on the page are just ones linking to a Google document containing the old page, but nothing that says it's been community-approved at all.
openEdit war
shivang915 keeps repeatedly removing information without explanation from Recap.Elena Of Avalor S 3 E 28 Coronation Day despite being asked multiple times why and to stop.
Edited by CommanderVisoropenNo Title
Y'know how sometimes a stub works page will just have a wick to Needs Wiki Magic Love at the end of its description in lieu of, like, actual effort?
Is that a thing that's okay to do, or should we be working against that?
Yes, this is tangentially related to my previous query...
Edited by wingedcatgirlopenBiased edits on page Anime
On the Sk8 the Infinity page, there was some biased information heavily favoring the ship Reki/Langa. I edited out that stuff last night and told them to add it to YMMV, because the ship isn't canon yet and might not become canon. So far all there's been is typical sports anime fanservice. Today someone added it back saying:
"langa's "ambiguously gay" isn't THAT ambiguous despite being placed under there for now (especially for anime which have to work around censors) so Power of Love fits (he essentially gasps and blushes when asked if he likes reki [question assumed by him], then realizes the "feeling" that makes him fly in ep9). if he suddenly goes "actually no homo bro" out loud in-series it'd be better filed under power of friendship. (unless tvtr doesn't list, ex., nge's kaworu under romantic tropes... he's only Very Heavily implied to be a love interest of shinji.) the power of love + mythical motifs is about his feelings, not reki's. ia the "romantic-tinged" was pretty ham"
I strongly disagree with this. Also another biased thing they put in the page was: "While it's It's apparent that Reki feels as if he can't reach Langa (and the star), unknowingly to Reki and Langa and the increasing tension that builds between them over it, for Langa, the star likely stands for Reki himself)."
For Langa the star didn't hold any significance. It was just a graffiti target on the wall that he could do a cool skateboarding trick with. Reki was the one who worked himself up about the star trying to reach it while Langa wasn't around.
Is there anything I can do? I don't want to be involved in an edit war, but this stuff is just flat out wrong. The user perona keeps edit warring and adding incorrect info to the page.
Edited by sakanoopenThe Snyder Cut has a UN page because...? Film
UsefulNotes.Zack Snyders Justice League is a UN page dedicated entirely to the history and develop of the film. It seems like misuse of the namespace to have a page entirely about the making of one work, prominent as it may be.
I also brought this up in the UN cleanup
but I figured I’d ask here too since the work came out last week.
openPower Rangers Dino Fury
Power Rangers Dino Fury was cut.
Note: This page was cut for reason: Per Creating A Work Page For An Upcoming Work, this TV series needs a release scheduling to trope, and this series doesn't have one.
But it had one? The release date had been announced Feb 5th. The page got cut Feb 19th And in fact it premiered the day after the page was cut. So what's the actual reason the page got cut?
Edited by Ghilzopen Scrolls of Lore
So, I just discovered the pages for Scrolls Of Lore and...
...I don't know where to begin? I am so confused. The pages are just filled with nonsensical, bizarre edits from many different Tropers. SOL is a fansite, apparently, and about 90% of the edits for the pages are about the users. Are they roleplaying?? Is this all a joke?? It's really hard to tell, because as I said, so many of these edits are just—What?
- Ambiguously Brown: Cantus, the forum's current (unofficial?) head of Administration, is Iranian American.
- Cloud Cuckoo Lander: There are a few.
- Fantastic Racism: They mean it, too.
- Foe Yay Shipping: Members who heavily disagree with each other, notably on the Forsaken/Lordaeron topic, are sometimes shipped together and told by other users to just Get a Room! and get it over with already.
- Insane Troll Logic: The argument stemming from an addition of Forsaken-style lampposts leading to the belief that Blizzard was whitewashing the old Lordaeron style.
- Internet Tough Guy: Plenty of these.
- Noodle Incident: Numerous instances.
- Lamp posts, on how the Lordaeron crest on the lamp posts of Brill relate to the Forsaken's claim to the area
- Soldrethar, a divisive user
- Rolandius, a troll of the more universally-insane persuasion
- Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be: Most users agree the quality of Blizzard Entertainment's work has gone downhill in recent years.
- Screw This, I'm Outta Here!: Happens sometimes. They come back.
- They always come back.
- Small Name, Big Ego: A large number of personalities on the site.
- The Smart Guy: ARM 3481, who may or may not be a robot.
- He's a robot.
- Soapbox Sadie: Some of these pop up. They can be militant about RL issues, or problems unique to the world of Azeroth. Or both.
And that's just the main page. The Laconic is just "Abandon all hope ye who enter here." The character page is filled with almost nothing but Zero-Context Examples. Traaaash just randomly changed one character's description to "is a nerd." One description is just "A persian american with a distinct lack of humor." One is just "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!"
What...the heck is happening here. Can someone explain?
openDerek Savage
Someone tropefied Derek Savage. Some of the tropes are correct, as its about his work, but others like Berserk Button are about him personally, which is a no-no.
Can I suggest locking the page after deleting the tropes that shouldn't be there?
openProblematic troper
Quagsire Lover makes loads of problematic edits. They are, to use the words of Gellert Grindelwald, a "can't-spell". Below are some examples that I invite you to peruse.
"he disguises as a hipster so he could enter to her coffee and learn whats happening."
Not to mention that at the Big City Greens S 2 E 30 page, they've put lots of pictures from the episode, to make people choose which one's the best.
Also, they have entries refer to other entries, thusly: "Whenever the characters are doing something wrong or a crime, (see HeroAntagonist and Determinator above)"
.
Please note: Everything I've mentioned here happened within the last 24 hours, after I sent them a grammar notifier.
Edited by MichaelKatsuroopenTroper engaging in edit war, being rude Film
Over at Stuart Saves His Family, Anddrix removed the following example after bringing it up in the ZCE thread and after I said in the thread that it could be removed:
- Uncertain Audience: As Al Franken noted twenty years later:
Al Franken: Somebody wrote a review that said something like, "Watching Stuart Saves His Family go into the multiplexes is like watching a platoon of rookie soldiers head into an ambush. The people who will like this movie won’t go to it, and the people who will go to it won’t like it."
The rationale used to remove it was that it was a ZCE since it relies on a quote to do most of the explaining, and is also used largely to complain.
Another Guy, however, reverted it with the rather rude edit reason:
Said troper later expanded it to this:
- Uncertain Audience: As Al Franken noted in an interview with
Vanity Fair twenty years later about how film's marketing attracted the wrong audience, as noted above in Misblamed:
Al Franken: Somebody wrote a review that said something like, "Watching Stuart Saves His Family go into the multiplexes is like watching a platoon of rookie soldiers head into an ambush. The people who will like this movie won’t go to it, and the people who will go to it won’t like it."
While this entry is slightly better, it still relies on another entry and largely relies on a quote, so I am unsure if it is still a ZCE.
Another Guy also sent me a somewhat rude PM about the edit on top of that.
What should be done here?

Bit of an edit war going on in YMMV.Ghost Of Tsushima.
On 7/20 spoonofevil added the following:
On 7/22, Kenpachi_Ramasama
deleted the entry, reworded its contents and spliced it into the Mexicans Love Speedy Gonzales entry as a sub-bullet:
With the edit reason:
Accursed Fans deleted it shortly afterward, with the edit reason:
And today Kenpachi readded it almost word for word, grammar issues and all, but in the main body of the entry instead of as a sub-bullet, with the edit reason:
I can't personally comment on whether the claims of people being offended by the game are accurate - I've heard lots of conflicting information on it in our forum thread - but the impression I get is that the game's reception has been overwhelmingly positive and this is a case of a Vocal Minority who are offended over the "cultural appropriation" inherent in an American studio making a game about feudal Japan that isn't painstakingly, perfectly historically accurate.
Edited by Dirtyblue929