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openSonic Mania edit war Videogame
YMMV.Sonic Mania has had a So Okay, It's Average link that states the entry to be a minority view and has a lot of Word Cruft. It was first added a month ago, deleted citing a majority of positive reviews and acclaim, then added again a week ago saying it only got generally favorable reviews.
"* So Okay, It's Average: While this game got great reception by the majority, there are some that felt it didn't really offer that much new content in it as most of the stages from previous games are reused instead of all stages being new, and it doesn't really have much of a story when compared to other modern 2D games like Undertale, Shantae, To the Moon and Freedom Planet. All of which had bigger stories. Said fans basically wished that the game would have gone all out with a bigger story and new ideas so that the game could live up to its acclaimed reception a lot better."
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=YMMV.SonicMania
Berserk Button: misusing Berserk Button
openQuestion related to the Bug Fables page (possible spoilers) Videogame
On the Bug Fables page, it was at one point requested on the edit requests thread that the Big Bad entry be spoiler-marked, and the character page also treats the Big Bad, the Wasp King, as a Walking Spoiler. But having played the game, I do not think he is a spoiler character at all (though, just in case, I marked his name). He is built up as the Big Bad as early as the beginning of Chapter 2 (the wasp troopers explicitly say they are attacking on his orders or something like that), so I think the spoiler marking referring to him being the Big Bad should be removed. But I do not want to get into an edit war, so I decided to ask.
Edited by MasterNopenIgnored the image pickin' forum approved image Videogame
forgiuse
has ignored the page warning for VideoGame.Granblue Fantasy Versus's page image being approved and requiring a new thread for change discussion after the previous unsolicited change as detailed in this thread
and replaced the original one with a new image from promotional material that came out today.
I've sent them an image change notifier but I'm opening up this query just to cover all the bases.
Edited by NouctopenJak 3 Videogame
For some reason, Jak 3 is labelled as Jak 3: Wastelander, even though that's purely a Fan Nickname and has never been an official title. The Trivia page even happily admits this fact. The most baffling part is the fact that Jak 3 isn't even a redirect. This can't be kosher, can it?
openBaldi’s Basics Videogame
Troper Real Escape 99 has been repeatedly editing the pages related to Baldi's Basics in Education and Learning. During these edits, he has repeatedly used tropes that imply Filename2 is an Omnicidal Maniac, even though there is no evidence to indicate this is the case. I bring this up because I feel we need to stop Escape from starting an issue.
openTroper Concerns Videogame
I'm a little concerned about CASC Hero's edits on NightmareFuel.Resident Evil Village. Their grammar needs some work (missing a letter ever once in a while, unnecessary capitalization in a few spots, "your" instead of "you're"). However, what really concerns me is the content they added. It reads more like a walkthrough than true Nightmare Fuel.
Edited by HMSquaredopen"Western" vs "Eastern" RPGs Videogame
I want to add a Temtem example to Anti-Debuff, but I don't know which folder to put it in. It's made in Spain, so geographically it counts as a western RPG, but it's heavily inspired by Pokémon, which is eastern. Is there a meaningful distinction between these two genres besides location?
Edited by NitroIndigoopenTroper uncommenting out ZCEs, deleting content with no edit reason Videogame
Somehow it took me a month to notice this, but CBZ uncommented out numerous ZCEs I commented out on Pro Pinball: Timeshock!.
EDIT: They also deleted a ton of quotes on [adult swim] with no edit reason.
Edited by themayorofsimpletonopenDanganronpaV3 vandal Videogame
Same vandal blocking out almost all mentions of Miu Iruma in the Funny section is back as Tropers/estella86545. Can anyone help?
For reference, another Ask the Tropers thread about this vandal is here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=101082&type=att
resolved Marvel Rivals Edit War Videogame
Over on Marvel Rivals – Strategists, there's been a back and forth between users Ikea Han and Shinobi about labeling Rocket Raccoon's image as either Killer Rabbit or Pint-Sized Powerhouse.
openEdit war on WMG Videogame
I don't like using ATT to tell on people or anything, but Shinobi has been making edits that have been frustrating to me.
There are multiple lists on WMG.Marvel Rivals for people to speculate or predict characters and so forth, including specific details about those predictions. And then when it's confirmed, Shinobi has simply just been deleting the predictions instead of marking them as confirmed like other WMG. So for example, a new map just got added to the game, so I saw it was removed from the list. I thought instead to create a separate section for "confirmed maps" where it could go instead. Shinobi then deleted that without a reason, so I re-added it with the appropriate edit reason. They then deleted it again with this comment:
- Not the format confirmed stuff seems to be handled. Again, this shouldn't require explanation.
TBF, maybe I did botch the formatting with it. But still this trend of just deleting and adding things with no explanation, which is something most of their contributions to the page amount to, is just starting to get on my nerves more over time. And while not the main point here, there's also been instances where they've tried removing other ppl's specific predictions and replace them with their own, which I just see as rude more than anything.
Edited by IkeaHanopenUnreleased game may have turned into Vaporware? Videogame
Two years ago, I created a page for the upcoming game A Frog's Tale. At the time, it seemed like development of the game was progressing well. Unfortunately, things don't look good at this point. The release date on Steam is still "to be announced" and one comment on a review mentioned that the developers haven't posted on their Twitter in a year. Most importantly, the game's official website has expired and no longer works. It seems very unlikely that this game will ever come out now. My question is, what should be done about the page? Should it be kept?
Edited by BluethornopenAward Snub Validity Videogame
Back in November I added
an Award Snub entry for Dragon Age: The Veilguard, having noticed that a sizable portion of the fanbase was disappointed that it hadn't been nominated for certain categories at the 2024 Game Awards, with the entry specifically mentioning the game getting snubbed for Best RPG, Best Art Direction
, and Game of the Year, and Gareth David-Lloyd's performance
as Solas getting snubbed for Best Performance, as those were the categories that kept coming up when talking about where the game got snubbed.
However, almost a month later, the troper, Fishysaur, removed
Best Art Direction and Game of the Year from the entry, saying that there were people who didn't want the game to be nominated for those categories, as if that somehow invalidates their inclusion in the entry despite Award Snub being a YMMV trope, meaning not everyone has to agree with the entry for it to be valid. I would add those categories back, but as I'm the one who added the entry in the first place, that would be edit warring, so I was hoping that by bringing this here, I’d be able to get the go-ahead to add those categories back to the entry.
On a related note, a few days ago an Acclaimed Flop entry was added on the game's trivia page, I added
that the game has been reviewed generally positively by audiences, as the game has generally positive user review scores on Steam
, PSN
, and Xbox
, where you need to have played the game in order to review it...
Only for Fishysaur to remove
what I added and then claim
that audience reception is mixed, despite the fact that I had already explained to them when they PM'd me over my deletion of the game's Critical Dissonance entry that, outside of Metacritic where the user score got review-bombed to hell and back, the game has generally been reviewed positively by users.
What's strange about this is that after I explained this to Fishysaur back then, they actually ended up agreeing with me, so I'm not sure why they've gone back to claiming that the game's audience reception is mixed.
Edited by CorvusIXopenShould this be restored? Videogame
I was checking Wide-Open Sandbox and discovered a glaring omission. I checked history and found that SeaMonkey851 removed it last year
with the edit reason "The other wiki doesn't say it's a wide open sandbox." The problem? The removed entry was the entire Grand Theft Auto series which the description identifies as the Trope Codifier. So should this be restored?
If so, can Grand Theft Auto VI be added to the list?
openFanon discontinuity and other flamebait Videogame
Recently on the YMMV page for Dragon Age: The Veilguard an example under fanon discontinuity was added that mostly comes off as editorializing, with the post even speculating spitefulness on the part of the developers.
A major problem I have with this is that literally the same thing happened to the last two games in the series, with them inspiring massive amounts of people writing them off as discontinuity (and the attempt to pretend such didn't happen is frankly disingenuous). Veilguard has had a contentious reception well before it was released and I feel like it's going to inspire much edit warring among other things.
I know having no such thing as notability is something that comes into play here, but literally anyone can make an edit with weasel words like "many are saying" to make it seem like it's a more commonly held opinion than it is. This is a problem I've noticed across the site. So in the interest of fairness, I say either ax the entry or apply it to the previous two games as well. Regardless, I think the whole complaining about the developers "spiting players" should go in any event.
openAdding examples to unreleased works without citations Videogame
Samz added some examples in VideoGame.Call Of Duty Black Ops 6 that I commented out for lacking citations, and one also being a Zero-Context Example, only for them to remove
the commenting out.
I sent them a PM about it and had a brief exchange, but judging by this edit
made afterwards they don't really understand the issue.
resolved Editing Hype Backlash to deflect criticism? Videogame
A while ago I added a Hype Backlash entry to YMMV.Pikmin 2. However, troper Drifloon Empire added some notes deflecting the criticisms I laid out:
- Hype Backlash: Though the game was for the longest time hailed as the best game in the series, newcomers to the franchise, especially those who grew up with Pikmin 3, have criticized the game for its unbalanced difficulty and focus on randomly generated caves over the beautifully crafted outdoor sectionsnote However, Pikmin 2 has the same amount of outdoor maps and sections as Pikmin 1, many of which are either reused (albeit with changes to reflect the passage of time) or are the same size, so it contains the same amount of outdoor content as its predecessor, said caves also being criticized for sometimes generating unfair or unoptimal layouts. Some have also criticized the game for not having the same isolationist atmosphere or the life-or-death stakes of the first game. The removal of the time limit, which was unanimously seen as a major improvement upon the game's release, is seen by some as a downgrade as it removes the motivation to finish the game quicklynote Defenders of 2, however, will often note that the players making these criticisms are experienced players who never come close to hitting the 30-day time limit in 1, and that the time limit in 3 is so generous that it's more of a formality than anything. Furthermore, 4 also has no time limit, yet doesn't receive these same criticisms from fans).
I just want to state that this is not my personal opinion, Pikmin 2 was my favorite in the series for a long time and I still hold a lot of nostalgia for the game, I'm just parroting what the game's detractors say about it. Regardless I don't think it's appropriate to edit the entry to talk about why those detractors are wrong. Thoughts?
ETA: Worth noting that initially there was initially a very vague Condemned by History entry under 2 by the same troper ("[...]the game's reputation's been steadily dropping due to the game's detractors becoming more vocal along with a general shift in opinion since 3 Deluxe."), but then it was taken to clean-up and it was determined it didn't count, but I still felt there was indeed some criticism towards the game from newer players (though not enough to disgrace the game) so I rewrote the entry into Hype Backlash and expanded upon it. Said troper also tried to shoehorn a mention of Condemned by History into the entry ("It is a rare case where the game started as a Sacred Cow but is continuing to head towards Condemned by History.") but it was struck down by a mod.
Edited by supernintendo128openContentious edit for Silksong/Edit War(?) Videogame
Bringing this ATT over here since this has been ongoing for a little bit.
It seems like the main page for Hollow Knight: Silksong has been having an issue with a troublesome Does This Remind You of Anything? example that keeps getting re-added and then removed. I wasn't sure if this technically counts as an edit war since it's been a different person and a new writeup every time, but since it's now on the 3rd time it's happened I was told to go ahead and make this.
Pardon if I mess up formatting here, making an ATT this wordy is new to me.
the initial example
was added by VR 456, and then removed a day later
by Evillisa, citing it was YMMV or WMG since it was hard to pin that this was Team Cherry's intent with the questline.
It was then re-added with new wording
by MissRoboto a few days later. Since this was the second time, I brought it up in the trope's long term thread
where it was agreed it should be cut due to the wording seeming like it was making it a Square Peg, Round Trope and did so
.
And then the third edit
done on Oct 13th by karmiki, again with new wording, before being removed
by Cure Magica on the 22nd, citing like the first removal that the example is probably better fitting for WMG due to lack of stated intent by Team Cherry and not fitting well since it results in a power up (It was brought up in the cleanup thread again and I took note of it but life got busy so I wasn't able to make this any sooner).
I don't believe any notifiers were sent, since it was different people every time and enough of a gap between dates for it to have just gone missed since Silksong has been pretty high-traffic, and I wasn't sure if this is actually an edit war, but three cycles of this seems like it may, at the very least, need a note at the top of the page.
Edited by NaraNumasopenHighly questionable addition to YMMV/TheLionKing Videogame
So, uh... this was recently added to The Lion King:
- Nausea Fuel: Distrubingly, the NES version was found to have references to pedophilia with both a hidden difficulty setting (BOY LOVE, a term used by pro-pedophilia groups in the 1990s), and quotes from The Bible that are much Worse with Context.
There's no links to any articles, or anything like that in it, and this looks like something that probably needs sources, amongst other issues.

JoiningReaper
looks to have defied official translation and reverted "Trees of Emptiness" to "Phantasy Trees" shortly after it was changed on the Fate/Grand Order pages.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Characters.FateGrandOrderVillains
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=FateGrandOrder.TropesAToC
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=FateGrandOrder.TropesKToP
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=FateGrandOrder.TropesQToY
Edited by AzureSeas