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openHow would I make a page for a musical artist? Music
I've recently decided that I want to make a page for a musical artist, but I don't know how to make a page for a specific person. How do I do that?
openReception paragraph removed for no given reason? Music
I created a page for the Weezer album Raditude. bowserbros removed this paragraph with no explanation:
The album is seen as the band's absolute low-point. While albums like Make Believe and Pacific Daydream have their defenders, most fans agree that this album is their worst, with special attention called to "Can't Stop Partying" as one of the band's absolute worst songs. It's criticized for trying way too hard to be "hip with the kids" in an ever-changing pop landscape where rock music is falling out of favor with the youth of the day. That being said, the album is said to have a few good songs, though it's not agreed upon which ones, and it's certainly not "Can't Stop Partying" or "Love is the Answer". The album was a critical and commercial failure (being one of their worst-selling albums), which no doubt played a part in Geffen's decision not to renew their contract with the band.
I wasn't trying to bash this album, I was only summing up the general opinion of it.
openCorrect formatting on Awesome Music? Music
I added the following set of examples to AwesomeMusic.Electronic:
- Old-school Drum and Bass and jungle have produced some killer tracks as well:
- "Dancer"
by Tom & Jerry is one such track, with its fast-paced drum beats mixed with some downright gorgeous backing instrumentals.
- "Coolin Out"
by LTJ Bukem is another great track, which blends a relaxing ambient background with the frenetic drum beats typical of Drum and Bass.
- "Dancer"
Unfortunately I am unaware of how to format this, and the rest of the page isn't much help since it is also riddled with formatting errors. Example Indentation in Trope Lists additionally wasn't much help here either, since I didn't see a similar situation to mine on it.
I am fairly sure I formatted it incorrectly, so I brought it here to figure out what to do with it. What is the correct formatting for this specific set of examples?
Edited by themayorofsimpletonresolved Works listed under StandardSnippet Music
The Standard Snippet page did have a list of subpages, some of which are Main/ pages and rightfully treated as tropes. On the other hand, there are quite a few works with well-known snippets that are listed under Music/ (which is explicitly a work-related namespace), and yet those pages mostly serve to describe said works and list where said snippets are found, rather than listing tropes to the works in question. What can be done about said work pages that aren't treated as such?
Edited by GrafVonTirolopenOne page for multiple albums? Music
I'm the creator of the Music/Imaginos page, and now that the sequel is out with another to be released in 2022, I was wondering if it would proper to have them all be on one "The Soft Doctrines of Imaginos" page (as that's the name of the narrative and fictional universe created by Sandy Pearlman), or would I have to make separate pages for each installment?
Edited by queenherlaresolved Memetic Mutation misuse? Music
Found this on YMMV/Deftones:
- Memetic Mutation: Stephen revealing himself to be a believer in several conspiracies
, including the flat Earth theory, anti-vax and COVID-19 denial, was immediately met with widespread scorn from the fandom along with several memes referencing songs such as "Hole in the Earth".
This is already in need of a tweak of some kind since that Vimeo link is dead, but I'm not even sure it's an example of Memetic Mutation - it's more focused on memes made in response to a scenario rather than the scenario itself becoming a meme.
Edited by Akriloth2160openPink Floyd - Ensemble Darkhorse misuse? Music
I was browsing through the Pink Floyd YMMV pages; the main band page, as well as the pages for some of their albums. And I noticed there are several Ensemble Dark Horse entries which discuss their albums and/or songs. I started to remove a couple of the entries, as I was always under the impression that this is specifically a fictional character trope. As in, it couldn't apply to a non-character such as an album.
But then I decided I might as well clarify. Is this exclusively a character trope, and those other Pink Floyd entries should be removed as well? Or can they remain as is?
openHarsher in Hindsight - Music Music
The Harsher in Hindsight page for Music is a complete mess.
Not only are there a lot of very weak examples (including numerous "oh no this person is now dead so sad" entries) but many entries are repeated, including the parts about Queen, Soundgarden & Sinead O'connor, among others. Multiple entries about the same artist have not been grouped together. And to top it all off, it's not in alphabetical order.
Putting this right will be a mammoth undertaking. Is there somewhere this can go in order to invite the community to do what we can to sort this page out?
openSplit Enz Music Wiki Music
I want to make a Split Enz page for the band. However, the Music/ wiki has been redirected to an autobiography of one of the members and acting as a Literature wiki. I don't want to get rid of the Literature wiki but I think it should be separated and the Music page be created and be its own thing. Lots of the tropes mentioned are book-related which is fine but not relevant to the band as a whole and I can add some more band-related tropes with a true Music/ wiki.
Let me know if I can easily create the Music page without any issue from mods etc.
I think it's a fair move and they should be split (pun super intended) apart.
resolved A separate list of cover art tropes Music
The main page for Edguy has two separate trope lists - one for the music, and one for the cover art. The problem is that the cover art list only has four examples, two of which are under the same trope (that being Monster Clown). The header has the preface, "While not necessarily reflected in the lyrics...", but it's clear enough just from reading the examples themselves that they're talking about the cover art rather than lyrics. Is it worth having these examples in their own separate list when there's currently so few of them?
Edited by Akriloth2160openShould we create a page for grime music? Music
Should we create a music genre page for Grime music/UK rap?
opencaptioning an uncaptioned ImagePickin image? Music
Image Pickin just updated the image on Unleash the Archers to my suggestion with the current lineup. I just wanted to caption it with the names of the band members like most band pages do, but the thread is closed. Can I just do it?
Edited by StarSwordopenJon English page Music
I've been making a page for Jon English. It's pretty good so far, but could still use more. If any Aussie tropers want to help out, that would be greatly appreciated.
openPermission to recreate Music.FrankieKnuckles Music
Permission to recreate Music.Frankie Knuckles and add tropes? And would I be able to find the old version of the page?
openNonpoint's page. Music
is it safe to recreate the Musci page for Nonpoint? If not, at least make an exception.
openHow do I move a page? Music
I am trying to move this page I made for Günther so it says that he's a singer instead of confusing it as a tab of the wrestler.
Edited by surname4uopenHow to make a randomly captialized text not red Music
If I were to type something like He L Lo W, how do I type it without it becoming a red link?
openRecreating Music/NielsByeNielson Music
Would it be safe to recreate Niels Bye Nielson .The offending part of the page (it only has one trope; Reclusive Artist) would be very easy to merge into the Bio, and thus would make it safe from deletion again.

Can someone create this article about Teamheadkick, with a list of their songs?