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openWhy is there no "Our aliens are different" trope?
This is most likely a frequently asked question but I'm not the type of person to scroll into "ask the tropers" discussion page so I'm asking this just to find an answer. Is "our humans are different" just that? Like does this means aliens are a different type of humans or what?
openKatsuki Bakugo Anime
On Characters.My Hero Academia Katsuki Bakugo (history is here
), the Jerkass trope was repeatedly added in, even though this trope should not to be listed when their sub-tropes are like Jerk with a Heart of Gold (which is already listed).
In that case, since I want to avoid a Edit War, should it be removed?
Edited by gjjonesopenEdit war
On Trivia.One Kagayaku Kisetsu E:
- Troper eliaskelham added
a Inspiration for the Work about how the game influenced several creators like Kinoko Nasu (creator of Fate/stay night) and Key (the minds behind AIR and CLANNAD).
- I removed it
, since this is wrong way.
- eliaskelham added the trope back
, albeit focusing more on Nadu.
I'm not sure this counts as an edit war but the fact that they are misusing a trope and adding it back despite it being misuse rings alarm bells in me. I would like more opinions on this though.
openReporting Vandalism
The user, dinosaursstilllive has just vandalised
the Kingdom Hearts IV WMG page, removing all of the WMGs and replacing them with a single sentence that reads "fuck you all.". I also checked their edit history and saw that this is their first edit in general. I'd have also reverted their vandalism by now, but as of the time that I'm writing this, that same user is currently editing the page again.
Update: The timer for their second edit ran out and I've now reverted the page.
Edited by CorvusIXopenLost Media, Missing Episode and Keep Circulating The Tapes
I have noticed that Lost Media is a redirect to Keep Circulating the Tapes, even though that article is for media that is legally inaccessible; Missing Episode is for media that is actually lost. I have seen editors confuse the two, and this redirect is not helping. I don't want to change it unilaterally, but I hope I can get consensus here. (Ideally, Missing Episode should be renamed Lost Media, but that's beyond ATT.)
resolved Body language trope I've been trying to find
Is there a trope on here where a character (usually a woman) waves at someone by holding up her hand and wiggling her fingers?
openOdd pattern of editing from a suspended troper.
According to the ATT on AI Boom
, the page's creator
has been suspended primarily due to indentation but also gushing/promotional tone. I just wanted to flag that while other pages don't seem to be straight up advertisements, there are a few edits that come across as... odd. Either agenda-based or particularly wonk-y to the point of inaccuracy. AI Boom just seemed to be the latest of these.
- Their edits
to The Cartel seem excessive, creating an incredibly bloated description that also just feels in parts like a press release from the administration, talking about how fentanyl (not opioids, but fentanyl in particular) are the greatest public health crisis in recent history in the US (quick reminder that COVID happened) and talking about how the administration "finally" labeled drug cartels terrorists, when the US government (both present and past administrations) labeling everyone they dislike terrorists is... kinda iffy.
- Similar content done here
.
- Same idea shoehorned into
Order Versus Chaos.
While not quite the same, there's also the weird fixation on a definition of post-modernism that I've never heard before:
- Unilaterally changing the definition of what's considered postmodernism in literary and historical circles
. To be honest, I haven't really heard of the first definition proffered, but the secondary sounds really obtuse.
- Also seen here
.
- And here.
And just plain irrelevant to the above, but repeatedly
troped
real life creators as UsefulNotes.Straight Edge, which isn't even a trope so that's a double whammy of poor editing.
I haven't gotten very far in their edits (since they do a LOT of small edits), but it was odd to me.
Edited by Adeptresolved Same Troper?
While checking for images that KiraKiwi made, I noticed something. They have similar editing patterns to another troper named jessicadicicco610.
- On Isabella Acres' page(history here
), they not only use screenshoted images like Kiwi, they also trope like Kiwi (ex. the Nice Girl is similar to the on Lily Sanfelippo, which they also edited on).
- On Acres' page, they also format works similar (ex. Work name then one space before the colon). See here
on Kensington Tallman.
With these very similar patterns I noticed, one of two things are possible if these are the same person.
- Best case scenario, the troper simply went on hiatus but couldn't remember the password so they made a new account.
- Worst case scenario, we have a possible ban evader at our hands that went unnoticed for an entire year, all the while making pages.
As such, I would like to know if my hypothesis is correct.
Edited by Ayumi-chanopenThree page minimum for creator pages
Is there a three page minimum for creator pages, specifically the creator must be involved with three works of fiction with trope pages to have a creator page.
resolved TLP bug?
Unintentionally Karmic is a trope launched on November 21st 2021. However, there is still an active(?) draft created by the same person. It dates back to July 24th 2021 and the last edit is from today but all of the edits in the edit history state they are from the same day it was created.
resolved Excessive bashing of a fanfic
I was looking at YMMV.Boiling Gems and quickly noticed that quite literally every lengthy entry listed there was added for the sake of bashing the fic and especially its main character (Steven Universe as raised by Eda Clawthorne). A quick check led me to discover that the person who added them all was Spectacular Troper, who I'd brought up here
in the past due to an edit war they committed over similar bash-y entries — and a quick search of ATT seems to show that this is far from the only time they've caused issues, too. As it is, I don't know enough about the fic in question to salvage the entries, but if their previous behavior is any indication, they'll just add them back if I cut anything.
resolved New Pages Locked?
I'm curious to know why recently-created pages are usually locked before anyone can edit them. Such as the case I did with a page for Worms 3D.
I assume it's because they're under review or something like that?
Berserk Button: misusing Nightmare Fuel
openEdit War on Hitman's Agent 47
A few years back
, this example was added to Characters.Hitman Games Agent 47 by Teen Tyrant:
- Professional Killer: One of the best examples of the trope in gaming, if not the uber-example. You could put his picture in the dictionary next to the word assassin.
While reading the page a few months ago, I saw that this example was full of gushing, Word Cruft, and a Zero-Context Example, so I rewrote it
to actually explain the trope and how the character qualifies.
Yesterday, Teen Tyrant reverted the example
back to its previous, low-context wording. As it had been a while since I edited that trope, I had forgotten that I'd rewritten the trope and didn't realize that they were the one who originally added it, so I figured it was just a bad edit and reverted it
. They then reverted it again
with an aggressive edit reason.
At this point, it entered Edit War territority, but I reverted it again because of their wording's flaws which mine addresses (Edit War has an allowance for fixing objective mistakes like ZCE and Word Cruft). I also sent a private message, which got a curt response. They then reverted the example again
, with another rude edit reason saying that if their wording isn't kept, they'll delete it from the page entirely.
The wording of the edit reasons suggests that Teen Tyrant feels a sense of ownership over the example's wording and doesn't want anyone else changing it. I think I need a mod here since explaining and asking nicely didn't work.
resolved Theatre/Oscar
After the movie adaptation got split off, Theatre.Oscar is now a stub, and it's already crosswicked. Has anyone seen it? If not, then I'll Cut List it later today.
resolved Is a pothole followed by a regular link considered a sinkhole?
On Autism in Media, an example described a character as a "Teen Gadgeteer Genius." Tropers/rmctagg09 changed it to "teenage Gadgeteer Genius" with the edit reason "Fixing a sinkhole." I changed it back with the reason "Potholes are allowed as long as they aren't irrelevant/inappropriate and don't violate any of the rules listed on Sinkhole." rmctagg09 changed it again with the same edit reason and sent me a sinkhole notifier. We had a short conversation over PM in which rmctagg09 said that they considered a pothole followed by a regular link to be a violation of the rule against chained potholes. I don't. Which of us is right?
openImage Pickin' for Ear Notch
Putting this here both for consensus and because I can't make a new Image Pickin' thread right now.
The current page image for Ear Notch seems kinda lazy. It's just a seemingly random picture of a character with a notched ear far off to the side with an arrow pointing towards it. I think a better option would be an image that draws attention to the notch naturally instead of literally pointing to it. Also: According to both the page source and the edit history, the current image was put there around the time the page was first created, and no Crowner or Image Pickin' thread has been made to change or keep it.
NB: The image quote doesn't demonstrate the trope or match the image properly, I think it should be replaced as well.
Edited by Gofastmikeresolved A Troper removing entries over a personal bias Anime
A user by the name of GL12345 removed a Base-Breaking Character entry and a Growing the Beard entry in YMMV.Boruto for the following edit reason.
"Boruto is the Scrappy not a base breaking character. He is still hated to this day. Boruto did not grow the beard. Everybody hate the whole show. It is bad from the start to the end."
I called attention to this in the complaining cleanup thread
This also seems to be a pattern of behavior. Their first two edits on the wiki were removing entries in the Trivia and YMMV pages for Pokémon Scarlet and Violet because, according to them, the game sucks snd there will never be a good Pokémon game again.
Edited by Sugarp1e1

AudienceAlienatingEnding.Anime And Manga
This was originally under Overshadowed by Controversy but moved as it has new rules that only out of works controversy, not debates over work quality. The issue is I asked about moving to AAE before but we decided against as the Kalos League is not the ending. As the entry notes the "alienation occurring 10 episodes before the proper finale", the story arc before the ending. That it overshadowed the otherwise well received ending seems proof against AAE which require the ending overshadow the League and other contentious stories.
So should this be re-removed as misuse? Or is there any argument for this being part of the ending enough to count (like the League outcome having critical/overarching influence on the Flare arc)? (The same episode it happened also begun the finale immediately after.)
Edited by Ferot_Dreadnaught