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YMMV.Pokemon Diancie And The Cocoon Of Destruction has some stuff going on, with someone deleting the positively-worded tropes "surprisingly improved sequel" and "spiritual successor" for no explained reason.
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NEXTPLEASE 1987 has effectively vandalized
Ojamajo Doremi by adding false information to the page. I have looked around on the internet, but I cannot find proof of the English Dub going past season 1 like what she's claiming.
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Could we have some people chime in on this discussion on the Chunky Salsa Rule here
?
Another troper and I are just going in circles on some specific examples, and non-gaming examples were unilaterally cut a while back.
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Can someone remind me about the policy when trying to dispute an entry? Mochitachan added a When She Smiles entry in Characters.Shokugeki No Soma, which is a shoehorning and I removed it saying that it is not an example. Mochitachan than re-added the entry, but it still reads as a non-example and I don't think they really understand what the trope means.
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Edit War on Seinen between Swordgai and Dark Paladin X
extended history of the article
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Well this is frustrating. I created a new Fanfic Recs page for an anime. I even put a link to it on the main Fanfic Recs page, yet it says it hasn't been indexed even though it's been far longer than it usually takes. Why? Other Fanfic Recs pages say they're indexed. Why doesn't this one?
Edited by TheNerfGuyopenNo Title Anime
OK, I have a very serious question about a Moral Event Horizon example on the YMMV page for the Pokémon anime.
"The Trio definitely crossed it in "Round 1- Begin!" While they'd been getting more and more willing to use lethal force to get Ash out of their way for good, going so far as to try to run Ash over in front of his own mother in the preceding episode, it's usually when he has a shot at stopping them. This was... different. Long story short, their latest scheme in "All Fired Up!" is to steal the flames of Moltres, which is used in the Indigo League ceremony. Their first attempt literally backfires, as they nearly burn to death before Ash has Squirtle put them out. This time, not even James shows any gratitude, and they're back in the next episode, with a giant Grasshopper/Firefly mech to hold the flames. They nearly crush him several times until they have what they want, and Ash's and his Pokemon's efforts to stop them are in vain, as they're now able to use the flames for a powerful flamethrower attack. Even though his Pokemon are exhausted and he stands no chance against them, he blocks their path and gives a passionate speech about the flames and what they mean to all trainers and dares them to "take their best shot". Instead of sparing him for saving their lives or out of respect for the balls he's just shown and simply jumping over him with their prize in tow, they proceed to turn him into a smoking pile of his namesake, trying to send him and all his Pokemon(including the Pikachu they've worked so hard and so long to steal) to the very fate he saved them from."
Specifically, does this even count as an example? That was certainly the worst thing the Trio as a whole ever did in the anime (OOC even by Season 1 standards), but some seasons later they became the bumbling buffoons they were up until Best Wishes, and they actually have a bunch of sympathetic moments afterwards, and to my understanding, Moral Event Horizon is the point where the villain who commits an evil deed becomes irredeemably evil and unsympathetic, not simply the worst thing the villain does.
Edited by ryanasaurus0077openNo Title Anime
Per this discussion on the Yu-gi-Oh chaarcter pages:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/remarks.php?trope=Characters.YuGiOhMainCharacters&id=86400#86400
"Okay, somebody changed all of the pictures. When I added the old pictures back but kept the new ones, that same person got rid of them."
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I found several pages like this: Fall 2012 Anime and I was wondering if that was really a think we needed? Seems kind of pointless.
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Bit of a question if a certain character from Nanatsu No Taizai counts as a Satellite Character or not which me and a fellow troper are discussing. Some spoilers though.
Griamor is a Holy Knight who serves Princess Veronica. He is the knight to her lady. Most of his motivations revolve around serving her as it seems that he has a bit of a Bodyguard Crush on her. Unfortunately she dies, and out of shock breaks down and disobeys Veronica's last order to protect her sister from the surrounding chaos at the time. He leaves for a time only to return much later to save Veronica's sister. He saves Elizabeth from making a Heroic Sacrifice/ committing suicide and even gives the reason that doing so would make Veronica sad. Currently, he is about to fight one of the manga's Big Bad Duumvirate.
Griamor is also the son of the manga's other Big Bad. In fact he is a major motivation for the other Big Bad, as Dreyfus is a "Well Done, Dad!" Guy who just wanted his son to be proud of him. When Griamor is reported as K.I.A., Dreyfus experiences I guess the villainous version of Heroic BSoD. When the previously mentioned first Big Bad tells Dreyfus that he was the one who killed Griamor, Dreyfus goes Papa Wolf. When Dreyfus is told Griamor is alive, Dreyfus is breaks down in Tears of Joy.
Now with all this information, does this make Griamor a Satellite Character? I personally think that all these makes him not one but can't seem to convey a concrete explanation in my discussion with my fellow troper on the matter. So some other opinions would be welcome.
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arielrocks is making weird edits to Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea and especially its discussion page. Not sure what their deal is.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Anime.PokemonRangerAndTheTempleOfTheSea
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/remarks.php?trope=Anime.PokemonRangerAndTheTempleOfTheSea&id=85289#85289
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On the entry for I'm Here to Help, Anon Biblophile keeps deleting or editing valid tropes for the entry (among other things, he deleted the main character making snide comments about a brainwashed character being raped and then trying to kill said character being unsympathetic on the grounds that the main character didn't like him and was bantering). In general, they seem to be removing or justifying anything negative that's put in about the fanfiction.
I'm not sure if this constitutes an edit war or not, but the troper in question seems to be hovering around that page and editing most of the things added in (the YMMV entries, which were the most recent edits, were added in a few days ago). If it doesn't though, I would like to know how to best bring things to the page's discussion board to talk about the edits, since we clearly aren't seeing eye to eye on this.
Edit: In regards to a new issue that's arisen, while Anon and I have been reaching some middle ground on the YMMV page, there's some debate on what ought to go under the entry for Unintentionally Unsympathetic. There are a number of specific examples that I feel should be mentioned because I and quite a few other readers found them VERY distasteful and big reasons why we saw the character as unsympathetic, however Anon and I are in disagreement over whether or not they justifiably fall under the trope.
The specific points we're sorting out can be seen at the discussion board (apologies for how long-winded we both got about this) - https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/remarks.php?trope=FanFic.ImHereToHelp#83293
Since Unintentionally Unsympathetic is a YMMV trope, I know that leaves things a bit less concrete, but I was wondering if there was some guideline that could be followed for what sorts of examples are acceptable for this trope?
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Fire Shadow pulled a moment from DethroningMoment.Dragon Ball Z saying that because the character was never top-tier, his Butt-Monkey status in the series is fine. Isn't Dethroning Moment Of Suck personal?
That said, the Moment was actually two (him getting a bridge dropped on him and later him losing his girlfriend), so it deserves to be pulled. I was just wondering if the reason was kosher.

Under the circumstances, I'm assuming good faith here, but in their latest edit to the character page for Highschool of the Dead Miin U undid my latest edit to the same without explanation.