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openConsidering making adaptation subpages Print Comic
I'm considering making Comic Book subpages for Animorphs and/or Wings of Fire that cover tropes exclusive to their graphic novel adaptations (as part of Scholastic's Graphix line), but I can't think of enough tropes for either. Is there a minimum number of tropes recommended for a work page?
openRetroactive idiot ball in the Superman mythos Print Comic
Superman has Retroactive Idiot Ball with the following context:
"When Superman was first created, little about his home planet of Krypton was known other than the fact that its technology and genetics were far more advanced than our own, and that the planet died suddenly without giving its people enough time to evacuate. As Superman gained more New Powers as the Plot Demands and new details about Krypton were introduced, it was suddenly revealed that most (if not all) of the entire Kryptonian population were not only aware that they gained godlike Combo Platter Powers on planets with comparatively lower gravity, thinner atmospheres and yellow suns like Earth, but that the entire reason Jor-El sent his son to Earth was so that he could enjoy these benefits. In turn, this made the entire Kryptonian species look like morons for staying put on one small planet where they were basically Muggles until the moment it blew up. Later retcons then established that Kryptonians had once formed a powerful empire that attempted to conquer and colonize other planets, but somehow failed at it and were forced to retreat back to Krypton. But yet again, this backfired as readers began to wonder how a space-faring race with the potential to become Flying Bricks ever managed to screw up that badly."
I have to ask: is this valid? Honestly, this comes off as complaining, as there have been multiple stories that explore these particular details (please don't ask me go over all of them because I don't have the time for that).
openShang-Chi Print Comic
So, someone turned ComicBook.Shang Chi from a page about the character, to a page about the Gene Luen Yang series specifically, transferred the text and picture of the old page to a character sheet, and deleted the YMMV and Trivia pages. Did we have a discussion to approve of such drastic changes?
Edited by dsneybufopenCaptian America and How it Should Have Ended Print Comic
For the Captian America page a while back I added a reference to How it Should Have Ended and their parody of the theme song. The image text had the first two lines to his theme song ("When Captain America throws his mighty shield, All those who oppose the shield must yield!) and I added a note to it like this:note unless you're a plane or a bomb or some ice and a Brick Joke at the bottom with the rest of the lyrics. Another user removed it saying they did not want info from a parody on the page, but other pages made shout-outs before, and I was just adding one to HISHE. The user then claimed that HISHE was insulting to the original creators and it was like the creators of HISHE were saying that they could do better than the people who created the movies. While that is their opinion, it leads me to believe that besides the fact that I added a reference to a parody on the Captain America comic page, they removed it due to their apparent hatred of HISHE. I don't know if it was OK for me to add the reference in the first place or not. I could always add the reference to the The Marvel Super Heroes YMMV page as a Memetic Mutation example. Or even on the HISHE YMMV page. Does anyone have any advice for this? Sorry, this question is long-winded, it kind of hit my Beserk Button to see my addition removed (the meta-question I asked earlier I understand now).
openPossible Agenda-Based Editing Print Comic
fangsheadforever has been going through the Runaways Title Team page and systematically editing any tropes related to Nico Minoru's romantic history in order to downplay her relationship with Victor and remove any implication that she did anything more than kiss Chase, most recently removing a Sex for Solace example that references Nico and Chase's implied hookup in the last arc of the third series. A cursory look through their edit history shows that this troper has edited mostly romance and relationship trope pages and a lot of their edits are about Nico's relationship with Karolina, and notably, they completely rewrote an entry on Second Love to say that Karolina is Nico's second love interest, rather than Victor, on the grounds that Nico was actually just confused about her sexuality during her relationship with Victor. Does this seem a little questionable to anyone else?
openTime to Update a Character Image? Print Comic
With the release of the last issue of Rainbow Rowell's Runaways and The Reveal of Xavin's new look, I was wondering if we could finally update their portrait in the Character sheet? Currently, they have two portraits - one of their male Skrull form and one of their female human form, which is both incredibly clunky and also outdated, as they've been redesigned in the most recent series. The proposed new portrait is both more recent and would also streamline the article quite nicely, since it's just one picture instead of two. So can I go ahead and swap the old portraits out?
openMarvel and DC Comics Indexes Print Comic
So the UsefulNotes.Marvel Comics Series and UsefulNotes.DC Comics Series got moved to Marvel Comics Series and DC Comics Series.
Should UsefulNotes.DC Comics Events, UsefulNotes.DC Comics Editors, UsefulNotes.Marvel Comics Editors In Chief, and UsefulNotes.Marvel Comics Events be moved to the main pages also?
Also should DC Comics Editors and Marvel Comics Editors In Chief should be changed so that they have the same name.
Edited by GateStarXopenMislabeling of work Print Comic
Children of the Atom is a comic that ran for 6 issues. After it ended, someone edited the page to say it is a miniseries/limited series, and I corrected that because it isn’t one. It was never advertised as one, and still isn’t, despite like four websites calling it one in hindsight — Marvel themselves have never referred to it as such (there’s a 1999 miniseries by the same name, but that is not this one).
Someone else recently changed it back to miniseries, and since I made the change, I can’t revert it without starting an edit war.
Point is: it ending after 6 issues doesn’t automatically make it a miniseries/limited series, because it was never advertised or labelled as such. In the solicitations for August of this year, which featured its final issue, it still isn’t advertised as one: https://www.cbr.com/marvel-comics-solicitations-august-2021/
Compare the solicitation to the one for Sinister War, which makes explicit that it has a predetermined amount of issues and is a limited series.
So yeah, can I edit it to remove mention of this being a limited/mini series?
openDC Comicbook names Print Comic
So I've been going through the DC comicbook and characters pages and I've noticed that alot of them are named really weirdly. for example Robin Series or Character pages seperated by comics or animations i.e. Comic Book Teen Titans and Animated Teen Titans. This is a recurring problem I've noticed and I was wondering if there was a better way we could name these pages i.e. by year of release or something like that.
openCharacter Information Print Comic
Is there any way we can create a unified template for characters in comicbooks?
Right now for the Marvel characters I use the following template:
Character Name
PictureAlter Ego:
Notable Aliases:
First Appearance:
Summary
Tropes
Is there any thing we could add or remove? or use different terminology for the names like debut or real name?
Some pages also add powers and abilities, team affiliations, species, and nationality. I just want to streamline the template we use.
Also for aliases if we use it should we just use main names they've gone by or nicknames and the like?
openIs it okay to make a self demonstrating page for Superman? Print Comic
I've been thinking about creating a self-demonstrating page for Superman but it's been said that it's been cut because it's "redundant". I mean, Most of Superman's supporting cast has a couple, so why not him? Is it okay to re-create one?
openHi and Lois' YMMV page Print Comic
YMMV.Hi And Lois simply says "To be deleted". Looking at the history, this change was done by troper Gghnh this July, where he replaced the contents of the page (which was only a Were Still Relevant Dammit entry) with the message. Was that entry deleted for a reason, and they just forgot to place the page on the cutlist, or was it an unilateral removal without any discussion?
openSplitting the Seven Soldiers Page? Print Comic
The Seven Soldiers page is getting quite large, as it contains both the original Golden Age series and the Grant Morrison maxi-series. Would anyone object to splitting the Grant Morrison series off into Seven Soldiers of Victory?
openComicBook/GenderQueerAMemoir Print Comic
I see this was cut for listing too few non-ZCE examples. That page says I might want to ask if it's okay to recreate it, so here goes. What do you think? I've got a whole list of examples to add, and they'll be full ones.
openMassive Edit on RomanticTwoGirlFriendship Print Comic
Acebrock went through the entirety of "Romantic" Two-Girl Friendship and commented out every single example that they deemed "zero-context examples", even though several of them did have at least some context. Was this part of some cleanup project?
openSplitting Off the Animal Man Page Print Comic
I'd like to split the current Animal Man to create a new work page devoted solely to the Jeff Lemire run, as it is very different from the classic Morrison and Delano runs. Should the new page be labelled Jeff Lemires Animal Man, or Animal Man (2011)? I'm currently leaning towards the former, as Lemire seems to have been the sole writer for the entire run, but I figured I should probably ask for input first.
Edited by StrixObscuroopenIs there ever newspaper filler text on a print comic or on an animated show? Print Comic
Every so often, in movies and TV shows, you see paragraphs like these in fictional newspapers:
Those come from an Earl Hays Press prop newspaper.
In a comic book, I think there's never any need for filler text, because any text that is not relevant to the story can be represented as squiggly lines, gray bars, etc.
As I'm not a regular reader of comic books, I don't know if I'm right about this or not. So my question is: when a newspaper appears in a comic book, is there ever any kind of filler text used?
Dec. 27, 2021 — Just remembered about the classic "Old Man Yells at Cloud" headline from The Simpsons. From the article body I can kind of make out "Oldest Abraham Simpson" and after that I'm not sure...
Edited by JohnRoreopenVertigo's Childrens Crusade Print Comic
I am planning on making a page for Vertigo's Children's Crusade event, but as there already exists a The Childrens Crusade work page, obviously the new page with have to have a distinguisher attached. Should it be called The Children's Crusade (Vertigo), The Children's Crusade (1994), or something else?
openValid They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character example? Print Comic
Sarcasm Kid added this to Justice League Incarnate, a comic about a multiversal Justice League traversing and policing the multiverse:
- They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character: Earth-13 is toted as a magic based universe inspired from more superheroic versions of characters seen in the Grant Morrison Doom Patrol era and The Books of Magic. However, when Earth-13 is given a full glimpse in Justice League Incarnate #2 its hero community seems to only be made up of preexisting magic characters from the main DC Universe such as Raven and Black Orchid but with no attempt at making them seem unique or different from their regular counterparts.
This doesn't feel like an example to me. First off, I don't know where they're getting that first sentence from (the team members are the same as listed by Grant Morrison themselves in The Multiversity), and this isn't so much that they wasted a character as they didn't create characters this troper wanted.
Edited by FuzzyBarbarian

Okay, I deleted the parts of the Captain America article referencing How It Should Have Ended because I believe they are unnecessary and often kind of insulting towards the greater history of Captain America. Look, just because other pages have references to parodies doesn't mean this particular page should have references to a parody, especially since this particular parody is not of the affectionate kind. Oftentimes, the How It Should Have Ended parodies come off as "I can do a much better job than people getting legally paid to do this stuff", and I think that comes off as disrespectful towards the official creators. I think that, for now at least, we should stick to the official materials.