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openComplainy InformedWrongness entry Live Action TV
I am not gonna touch on whether or not I agree with the general statement within that entry, I just wanna check, does the IW entry on this
page look a bit too complainy and overly long to any of you as well?
openIs this even a work? Live Action TV
Super Sentai Hand Off has its own work page. But I don't think it really qualifies as its own work- it's just a collection of 10-15 second stingers that have appeared at the end of the last episode of each Super Sentai series since the early 2000s. Does this really need its own page? I would generally classify each hand off as just a part of its respective just-ended series.
openVideo tags Live Action TV
I’ve posted a video recently that was approved. However, I realized that I forgot a tag that I wanted to add on the video. Is it possible to edit a video’s tags after submission, or would I need to delete the video and then resubmit?
open Asiana Airlines/Vagabond flight coincidence (Harsher in Hindshight) Live Action TV
Hey guys. As you know on May this year there was a really unfortunate incident involving the South Korean airlines Asiana: Some man stupidly opened the emergency door BEFORE LANDING and it caused a massive chaos, anxiety and trauma for both passengers and staff involved.
And in the series Vagabond (2019) something similar had happened where the main villains caused an internal damage to the flight Cha Dal Geon's nephew was in which caused his and the passengers' death, including most holes being open in the flight and causing suffocation and air compression. What even hits the correlation TOO close to home is that the group of passengers in Asiana were a high school athlete team, much like the deceased Taekwondo school team. Luckily unlike what happens in the series, EVERYONE survived the incident, albeit with some injuries and a lot of Aerophobia.
But still what I want to ask is, do u think this incident would count as a Harsher in Hindsight YMMV trope for Vagabond?
openNew short term project thread - Drag Race cleanup Live Action TV
A Drag Race cleanup
thread has now been created, pulling together feedback from previous ATTs and other threads.
This covers RuPaul's Drag Race and the wider Drag Race franchise of Reality TV shows, including Characters pages and other subpages.
One of the topics it'll be looking at is Fan Myopia in page descriptions and examples, so feedback from tropers who don't know the franchise is welcome.
Edited by Mrph1openUnintentional Sympathy in Star Trek Picard Live Action TV
The YMMV page for Star Trek: Picard features two examples of Unintentionally Sympathetic:
- The Zhat Vash was right all along! The Admonition is a message to synthetic life that there is other synthetic life willing to invade and destroy all organic life if called upon, in order to save their fellow synthetics. The Soong-type androids start to bring these horrors into the galaxy, and the only reason why nothing more happens is because it takes a while for them to come through the wormhole, allowing a small window to shut down the beacon. It's probable that anyone faced with the evidence would come to the conclusion that artificial life is too big a danger to allow to exist. Especially the Federation, who already ban genetic engineering of organic life because of the risk of starting another Eugenics War. What also helps is that "mad AI goes rogue" is one of the oldest plots in Star Trek history, appearing in no less than 7 episodes of The Original Series and only going up from there. If you lived in the Star Trek universe, there's wall-to-wall evidence that you should never trust a machine that can think for itself lest you want to be killed, enslaved, or both. Even Data wasn't safe from this as he'd become Brainwashed and Crazy and a threat to others a few times himself.
- One could also say the same for Control as in the later half of season 3 the Borg effectively highjacks Starfleet from within and plans to use said new “assimilated” fully organic drones as the seed base of a new even more advanced and dangerous Borg collective to threaten and ultimately rule the entire galaxy with until the end of time. Control would’ve had access to all the Enterprise NX-01’s logs including those of the incident involving the Borg and the knowledge that a “visit” from a very real bio-cybernetic threat easily capable of assimilating others, quickly adaptable defenses, and has access to technology far more advanced than anything Starfleet, the Federation, or even the surrounding powers currently had at their disposal isn’t so much if they show up 200 years from the logs being recorded but when! While that doesn’t excuse nor justifies Control’s actions, Control was originally programmed to help protect the Federation from any and all threats but when it tried to figure out a way the Federation could win against a confirmed future threat that, for all intents and purposes, had no vulnerabilities that could be exploited (at least for long anyway), combined with the limitations of Control’s own programming, preemptively wiping out all life in the universe was the “best” solution he could come up with to stop them and save everyone.
I could be wrong about this but I thought US is about characters that come off as sympathetic, even though the story doesn't want viewers to sympathize with them. Granted, the show kinda shoots itself in the foot by portraying the Higher Synthetics (insert Mass Effect reference here) as genocidal racists, but the entries for US don't do themselves any favors by portraying the Zhat Vash and Control as genocidal racists themselves.
What do you think about this? Is there a cleanup thread for this trope or something?
open The Taxi Driver (2021 Korean Series) page Live Action TV
I was going to ask here if anyone can edit the page added for the 2021-present Korean series Taxi Driver, especially add the Characters page and edit the YMMV and Trivia. I already added some stuff there but anyone is free to add more and edit some. I'll write down some examples of the trope for the series and the characters you can add which fit them.
open A "Trace" of Ambiguity Live Action TV
There is currently a discussion on how to disambiguate Series.Trace.
Please weigh in within the thread, not the ATT.
openUse of Artistic Licence in the Ted Lasso finale Live Action TV
Shortly after the episode aired, I added the following to Recap.Ted Lasso S 3 E 12 So Long Farewell.
- Artistic Licence – Sports: Rupert would not be forced out of West Ham ownership over an extramarital affair, as the episode suggests was on the brink of happening as he arrives in the executive box prior to kick-off; assaulting George Catrick during a highly viewed internationally broadcast game, on the other hand, could potentially result in Rupert facing criminal charges and subsequently being disqualified from being owner or director of a Premier League club under the league’s rules for ownership.
The entry was subsequently deleted twice; the first claiming that Rupert was at risk of losing the club over "inappropriate conduct towards his employees" and the second resorts to speculative troping by claiming we don't know what the allegations are - except the episode makes clear that it's allegations of "sexual impropriety".
Now, here's the thing - the Premier League handbook
lists the various disqualifying factors for their Owners and Directors Test on Page 75 of the linked pdf, and convictions regarding sexual harassment or other related crimes are not a disqualifying factor. Rupert simply could not be forced out because of those allegations, guilty verdict in court or not.
I propose the following rewrite before reposting to the page:
- Artistic Licence – Sports: Rupert would not be forced out of West Ham ownership over allegations of sexual impropriety, as the episode suggests was on the brink of happening as he arrives in the executive box prior to kick-off, as criminal charges relating to such actions are not one of the disqualifying factors under the Premier League's rules for being owner or director of a Premier League club; assaulting George Cartrick during a highly viewed internationally broadcast game, on the other hand, could potentially result in Rupert facing criminal charges and subsequently being disqualified from being owner or director of a Premier League club under the league’s rules for ownership as such charges are one of the disqualifying factors.
open Do you think Succession finale has tearjerker moments? Live Action TV
So it's been about a few days since the Series Finale of Succession has arrived and only tearjerker (and Awesome page) has not recently add a sub example for this last episode so far. Is the last episode has zero tearjerker moments or has people stop caring for this finale for some reason? I need someone who know this show to explain. (Btw I have known a little about this show so I can't edit the work page of the show)
openExample Deletion Live Action TV
I added the below example to a character page, and a user deleted it on the grounds that "Being the assistant to Will was clearly Nate choosing to do the job an act of penance". I don't think there's anything in the trope description that says this would preclude the example from qualifying, so I wanted to check if this was a valid deletion.
Ethnic Menial Labour: In the season three finale, Nate is the "assistant to the kitman" despite being vastly overqualified for the job, and spends the episode picking up water bottles, pushing a laundry cart, and performing various forms of labour for the all white coaching staff.
This same user has also deleted my and others' factually accurate additions in the past and sent me various P Ms accusing me of "lionizing" the character in question and "demonizing" another, which I know they have done to other users as well.
resolved Actor Referenced By... Live Action TV
Can actors have their own Referenced by… pages? TIL that Nicole Kidman has one.
openThreshold for spoilers? Live Action TV
I'm curious; what is the threshold for spoilers? I was reading over Karmic Death, looking at the Game of Thrones example. This bit:
The fact Oberyn loses to Clegane, the Red Wedding bit and the reveal it was Olenna who poisoned Joffrey
I'd have thought would all be spoilered. Granted, if you are still watching the show and on this site that's kind of on you, lol, but I was curious if there was a reason those were not spoilered or if they should be?
Edited by TwiddleropenUser making DracoInLeatherPants'ing edits Live Action TV
Hi, I'd like to report Tropers/hacash for making several edits to the Ted Lasso page that ignore factual information presented on the show in order to lionize the character of Nate Shelley. I've already approached them about this in private messages in the past and they seemed to back off, but clearly they've decided to just lay low for a while before doing it again. In the interest of avoiding an Edit War I wanted to bring this to the mods' attention.
Edited by MacronNotesopenI can't find the page of Street Outlaws? Live Action TV
Hello, I can't find the page on Street Outlaws for TV show and it didn't show it yet. What should I do now?
Edited by Cheecharlie20resolved Potential edit war Live Action TV
Troper Metal Max 1991 has been constantly re-adding Alternate Self to MCU: Benjamin Poindexter that connects it to the 2003 Daredevil movie even though those films haven’t ever crossed over or been connected so they’re not canon. Are they commiting an edit war?
Edited by MaxyGregoryyyyopenHow many tropes on this site? Live Action TV
I appreciate the site is constantly evolving, and that tropes are added and removed along the way, but is there any way to determine how many tropes are currently on the site in total? It's for some research I'm doing! Many thanks. S.
open My ex is my rival. Live Action TV
Alice's ex-boyfriend Scott has a girlfriend, so naturally Alice has to find a boyfriend. Scott is kissing his new girlfriend in the same room, so naturally Alice has to kiss her new boyfriend in that room too. Scott and his new girlfriend are engaged, So naturally Alice has to be engaged to her new boyfriend.
Thank you. wasnt able to delete.
Edited by Karei714open Locked Pages Live Action TV
Is there a way to get permission to edit a locked page if you had something to contribute? ETA: Nevermind, I found it, and I'm sorry for not searching before I asked.
Edited by DrOO7

(Crossposting/rewording from this forum post
, which I'm unsure was even the place for this question)
I need help figuring out from which similarly-named-work an example is from.
I recently added Series.Cobra 1993 and Series.Cobra 2020 (as redlinks) to Main.Cobra because there are 2 series called that, both of which garnered wicks on Series.Cobra (was a redlink), I then made that page as a redirect to the Main/ disambig.
Now I've converted all wicks for Series/ except for the one that I saw first of all, on the page for I Know Mortal Kombat:
There's no names which clarify which Cobra series this is from, so I'm asking for help to find which one it is please. Thank you for your time.
Edit: (v) Your reasoning seems sound, I'll go with that without bumping this, thank you!
Edited by BlackFaithStar