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Is there a guideline for making Characters pages and moving tropes to Characters pages?
A while back I made a work page for a Korean movie, The President's Last Bang (excellent, BTW). As is my habit I went back later to reread it and see if anyone else had edited it. I found that someone had, which is fine—and that they had built a Character page, and taken great swaths of tropes off the work page and put them on the Character page.
I hate this. I hate Character pages in general; IMHO the tropes in a work should be on the page for that work and not hidden away in a separate page or, worse, multiple pages for multiple characters. At least until the point where a work page grows too long, when you should make different pages alphabetically for tropes, Game of Thrones style.
But I own neither TV Tropes nor the work page for The President's Last Bang, so I'd like to know the guidelines and what freedom I may or may not have to put tropes back on the main work page for this movie.
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For those who have seen Avengers: Age of Ultron:
At one point during the film, Steve Rogers and Tony Stark argue about whether or not it's morally acceptable to try ending a war before it begins. Stark mentions that the reason they fight is so they can end it and no longer have to fight. Rogers disagrees.
Would it be considered Fridge Brilliance to say that Rogers might have an ulterior motive (perhaps subconsciously) in not agreeing with Stark, since one of the themes of the film is that he's fearful of a world where there's no war for him to participate in?
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Inside Out has the following entry:
- Odd Name Out: Joy and Sadness are the only emotions whose names aren't verbs as well as nouns.
I deleted this entry. Another poster restored the entry on the grounds that "Anger" is a verb—ok, I was wrong about this, although I still think that it isn't used as a verb that commonly, folks say "That makes me angry" a lot more than they say "That angers me."
But in any case I still don't think the trope is applicable. First, two names out of five seems like a questionable case of Odd Name Out—the trope description says one that "doesn't fit the pattern". Here we have two out of five, 40% of the total.
Second, the example as given has no storytelling significance. Joy and Sadness aren't verbs. What does that have to do with anything? How does that mark Joy and Sadness out as significant? They all have names of emotions.
But since deleting that entry again would get me accused of an Edit War I am coming here.
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On Fantastic Four (2015), asugar added the example "Watching this POS crash and burn like it deserves has a certain comedic appeal to those that enjoy schadenfreude." which he then restored after I removed it as an attack on the film. Quality of the film aside, this seems like obvious Flame Bait to me, but I'm not about to get into an edit war over it.
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I would like to ask Josh Trank to the Fallen Creator page. How do i do that?
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King Kong. Recently there were separate work pages made for the 1933 film, the 1976 remake, and the 2005 remake. There's nothing wrong with that, I guess, except that the original King Kong page still exists as a list of common tropes shared between the three films, with each specific work page listing only tropes unique to that film. (This leaves the list for the 1933 film pretty short, as both the remakes expanded on it.)
Having separate work pages for each of the three movies is OK but it seems like if we want to do it that way then each should be a full listing of all the tropes in each movie, and the common King Kong page should be made a disambiguation page.
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Lots of vitriol in this review's
comment section. Personal attacks, people telling eachother to fuck off, trolling accusations... Could use a mod warning.
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https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Film.BigHero6
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=WesternAnimation.BigHeroSix
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Disney.BigHeroSix
I am unsure what's happening here. (It happened to Frozen too.)
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First, it's orphaned, without an index. Second, do we need an Alfred Hitchcock page, and then a second page listing his films? Couldn't we just put them on the Creator page, perhaps within a folder? I'd like to do a cut-and-paste and put Films By Alfred Hitchcock on the cut list, but that would be a Large Change edit, and it would require admin assistance to make the Alfred Hitchcock page do indexing.
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In Hot Fuzz I'm trying to work out under which Loyalty Tropes and/or Contrived Stupidity Tropes the supermarket workers actions fall under during the supermarket battle. UK supermarket work is pretty much a "bottom rung" career - your average Tesco employee doesn't have a great deal of loyalty or investment in their job or the company that employs them. A supermarket manager isn't really the kind of person who could inspire a group of low paid unskilled workers to face off against armed police in riot gear with fruit and thrown cutlery.
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Could a mod please do a revert on the latest edit on Avengers: Age of Ultron? I'm not too sure of what has been done — from the look of it, it's probably accidental — but I'd rather not manually reverting it since I'm unsure of what has been removed or not.
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The Wizard doesn't show up as being indexed. I've attempted to add it, but to little avail.
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Hello, I am trying to find a film that came out in the 80s/90s.
I only remember a few things from some scenes.
• Genre: Horror/Thriller • Setting: Factory • Scenario: A woman is working with a large rolling machine, she accidentally drops her ring on a conveyor belt that leads to the roller. She gets caught and pulled through the Machine. •The main character is a agent/police officer who does an investigation into the factory after the accident •The agents love interest is the daughter of the factory
Any help is much appreciated!
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Since Age of Ultron hasn't received a uniformly positive reception, would anyone mind if I removed the entry on YMMV.Ant Man for Tough Act to Follow?
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Over on Mad Max: Fury Road, BlastHardcheese is edit-warring over what I would call, at best, a distorted interpretation of the facts presented by the movie, claiming it's an "opinion". It's been removed three times by different tropers and keeps coming back longer than before. The last troper to remove it cut it down to the nub of a vaguely logical interpretation (though I still don't think the movie supports it, I'll leave it be), but I'm drawing attention in case it rises again. It seems a persistent idea.
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https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Trivia.FantasticFour2015
Some questionable edit removing and natter on admittedly questionable edits.
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I was just looking at Forever War, and the Star Wars example kinda sounds like Conversation In The Main Page. It's only really obvious with the last addition ("Well, it's Star Wars, not Star Peacetime...") but even the other bullets sort of sound like different people trying to top each other.
- Star Wars: How long have the Jedi and Sith been going at it? While the cause has not been forgotten (their basic philosophies require each to destroy the other, what with the Sith being a Religion of Evil and the embodiment of The Dark Side, and the Jedi opposing them on principle), the origin presumably has.
- Due to the supernatural elements, the war has been raging since before either group actually existed.
- The thousand-year New Sith Wars definitely take the cake, though. Whoever was there to see it start wasn't there when it ended (obvious, considering most people's lifespans). A family could have participated in that war for roughly fifty generations if they were in it from start until finish. Even exceptionally long-lived aliens like Hutts and Yoda's unnamed species would've been unlikely to live long enough to see the entirety of the war.
- And even not including the Jedi and Sith, war is still the most common event in the series - the Empire, even after Palpatine and Vader's deaths, kept on fighting the New Republic for decades. And then the Yuuzhan Vong came along.
- Well, it is called Star Wars, not Star Peacetime...
Is this the kind of style that should be revised for better uniformity? There's a part of me that likes the feeling of being part of an ongoing conversation, even the obvious "Well it is..." kind of comments, especially if they're moderately amusing.
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I apologize for the unusually poor style in the example for Twilight: Los Angeles I left on Keep Circulating the Tapes; right now, I feel screwed over due to not just my DVD recorder refusing to capture it at all but also PowerDirector dropping frames on an attempted recording of the last broadcast for the foreseeable future. Times like these, I really wish my favorite programs would be released on DVD. I also apologize if I'm not making any sense; I feel so angry about the situation, I don't know if I'm even making sense to MYSELF.

I know the rules about American vs. British English is "first serve", but there's a bit of weird thing going on with the graphic novel and movie titled Blue Is the Warmest Color.
Both work page titles use BlueIsTheWarmestColour, but it is corrected by a custom title to "Blue Is The Warmest Color". Again, this is not a legit use of custom titling as I understand it.
The actual title seen on both illustration is always "Blue Is the Warmest Color", and also the one used for the movie on IMdB, and for the comic on Wikipedia (though it flip-flop on the movie title).
So, is it worth moving the pages to the correct Wiki Words, or will I get a slap on the wrist for privileging one spelling over the other?