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Well, I haven't played the game, but if it's like Pyramid Head then the answer is NO.
The Big Bad, in the manner that TV Tropes uses it, is defined as a singular entity or force which is at odds with the protagonist and whose existence serves to compel the plot to move forward.
Pyramid Head is not a Big Bad because, while he is a singular entity at odds with the protagonist, his existence does not compel the plot to move forward. Defeating Pyramid Head is not the point, nor is it even possible. I'm curious as to who else you've seen calling Pyramid Head the Big Bad of Silent Hill 2... considering he's not listed as such on the page or anything...
The Big Bad is NOT just "the monster that most frequently gets in your way." If it was, then the Big Bad of Super Mario Bros. would be the common goomba instead of Bowser. :p
As I said, I don't know your specific example. The question to ask yourself is: is defeating Demon Liza the point of the game?
Edited by Mimic1990The answer to the directly asked question is "yes". However, you are still not providing evidence that they're the cause of all bad happenings in a story. A Recurring Villain is not by themselves the Big Bad. The Antagonist of the work is not always the Big Bad. The Heavy is usually not the Big Bad. The Mental Monster has to not only be an obstacle to overcome, but also create/send additional obstacles against the protagonist.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.The point of the game is that Willie is in a "Groundhog Day" Loop, constantly attempting to confess his feelings for Liza. The demon version of her is a manifestation of that conflict. Willie doesn't move on and accept his death until moving on from Liza.
Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper WallBut that still doesn't answer the question.
To go back to the Silent Hill example, Pyramid Head wasn't the Big Bad of that game, because he wasn't the cause of it all. He didn't create the supernatural goings-on of the town, nor did he maintain them. He was himself a byproduct of them, and never tried to be anything more.
So, did Demon Liza create the "Groundhog Day" Loop? Or was it simply a byproduct of it? Or, even if it did only come about as a byproduct of the supernatural whatevers, did it then take on a life and a mind of its own, and start actively working to maintain the loop so that it can keep the hero trapped there?
If so, then it might be the Big Bad. If not, then it's definitely not.
I believe she's a side-effect of his Sanity Slippage, yeah. Willie is doing this to himself by refusing to move on.
Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper WallBut she does try to kill him if he gets too far to the truth, so I think that qualifies as “actively working to maintain the loop so that it can keep the hero trapped there”. Also, I remember the description used to say that the Big Bad could be the biggest obstacle to the heroes goals, even if they were not personally responsible for the conflict, if the conflict was caused by something non-sentient. Did that get deleted as misuse?
One of these days, all of you will accept me as your supreme overlord.Pretty sure that is exactly what she is- and what Pyramid Head and ”Mary” from Silent Hill 2 are, for that matter.
One of these days, all of you will accept me as your supreme overlord.Shouldn't this discussion be happening here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15501563720A97445500&page=1
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I mean, if you want to do some necromancy. That project died within a month. :/
Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper WallAlright, then. As per Word of Mod, let's go to that thread.
Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall

I am disputing with a Troper who removed my Big Bad entry for Confess My Love because they said that the demonic!Liza does not mastermind anything and Willie’s torment is self-inflicted. I argue that since Demon!Liza embodies Willie’s inability to move on and must be overcome for him to pass on, therefore the entity does qualify as the Big Bad. The Troper also said that Pyramid Head is not the Big Bad of Silent Hill 2 (because they are just a mindless beast), when they are basically the only Troper I have seen argue that- just about the entire rest of the wiki seems to agree that Pyramid Head is the Big Bad because he is the monster most frequently getting in James’ way, despite being his guilt over killing his wife. So can a Mental Monster qualify as the Big Bad?
Edited by MasterN