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I agree with you, jjjj2.
As a non-fan and critic, I can say that South Park is definitely cynical much more often than idealistic.
It's considered Juvenalian according to the Other Wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire#Juvenalian
Juvenal was fond of using biting sarcasm in his satirical works.
Edited by Nen_desharu Kirby is awesome.I'd like to know when Trey "tell my family to put a bullet in my head before I turn thirty" Parker insisted his show wasn't cynical.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.Also reading up on the wikipedia article on the crack baby episode, the ending is clearly meant to be a joke, not a legitimately uplifting moment. Like it's using the fact that slash is "santa clause like figure" as a joke as put by sean' o'neal of the av club, and the fact of the matter is the whole episode was about crack babies being used for sport as a metaphor for the NCAA. That's about as cynical as you can get.
You can only write so much in your forum signature. It's not fair that I want to write a piece of writing yet it will cut me off in the midOk I'm gonna to reinstate the old version and site this query.
Edit: I also edited back in the older version of Sliding Scale of Idealism vs. Cynicism on SouthPark.Tropes R To V.
Edited by jjjj2 You can only write so much in your forum signature. It's not fair that I want to write a piece of writing yet it will cut me off in the midListing your sources would definitely be more convincing than just claiming you can list sources.
Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.Plus, as per Death of the Author, if the text of the work suggests a cynical viewpoint it doesn't really matter if the creators have a more idealistic viewpoint. You'd need more explanation of the idealistic points of view in the text, not just Word of God.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.Don't even think that Death of the Author needs to be brought into this. Parker and Stone are quite clear in person and in their show that the majority of people are vain, self-involved and quite hypocritical. Think of the Hybrid car episode, where they gloss over the environmental consequences and portray the adults as using hybrids to be complete smug bastards to each other. The episode where the boys accidentally destroy the dam and flood a nearby town, there the adults spend the entire time trying to find someone to blame rather than help. Or even the Manbearpig episode where its portrayed as a given that Gore doesn't care about the issues and is just doing it for attention.
The show is drenched in an overly cynical attitude, whatever idealism they show is just the glaringly obvious (obsessing over celebrities is stupid! Nambla is BAD.
I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose meI mean, I can point to some episodes that are idealistic and even critical of cynicism ("Raisins" is a big one) but the show is built off a dim view of humanity, with only Stan and Kyle really serving as the sane ones most of the time. And the "idealism" you describe isn't even idealism. "Britney's New Look" is morbidly cynical about how society treats celebrities, and the NAMBLA episode isn't really explicitly cynical or idealist.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.

On SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism.Western Animation, H Barnill changed this:
to this:
I cannot speak to the specific examples they are providing. I don't watch south park regularly, but I know by reputation that south park is quite cynical. I feel like they're cherry picking the more optimistic episodes, rather than the series as a whole. Should it be changed back to what it was before?
Edit: This is actually something H Barnill has been pushing for awhile now. I've looked at the south park page and on the Creator.Trey Parker And Matt Stone he said most of there works are idealistic which is generally speaking not true...
Edited by jjjj2