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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
2020-07-23 16:19:05

It's not cut, it was just sent back to the TLP so you can work on it more.

In general, going with the "3 examples" rule almost never actually leads to a thriving trope. 3 examples is the bare minimum. It's always best to give a trope plenty of time to simmer before launching it. I tend to wait until the feedback and examples stop coming, which implies there's nothing left to do.

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Dragon101 Since: Jun, 2015
2020-07-23 16:21:17

It had far more than three examples. It had 5 or 6, and I added 5 or 6 more that were suggested as soon as it was published.

WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
2020-07-23 16:23:16

That's still an undercooked draft. "5 or 6" is not "far more" than three examples, and the state of the draft after launch doesn't justify a premature launch, it just means you should've polished it beforehand and then waited to see if people had any more feedback.

See TLP Guidelines; it's explained there.

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mightymewtron Since: Oct, 2012
2020-07-23 16:27:41

It's also generally discouraged to launch a trope without giving some notice on the draft, in case people have any last-minute concerns.

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wingedcatgirl MOD (Holding A Herring)
2020-07-23 16:39:05

I don't know why we still say a draft only needs three examples to be launched when it's plainly untrue. The rules as actually enforced require a draft to meet the Standing status as detailed on Wick — that's 12 examples.

If anything, three examples is the minimum for creating a draft.

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
2020-07-23 16:49:12

^ That's definitely outdated. Pretty much none of the actual rules say it, but the launching message is woefully behind the times.

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Zuxtron (On A Trope Odyssey)
2020-07-23 17:15:07

I interpret the "three tropes" thing more as "the TLP draft creator should provide at least three examples by themselves to prove that it's an actual trope they've seen happen". It should be the minimum for creating a DRAFT, not for launching a trope.

MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
2020-07-23 17:31:39

My view has always been that three is a good beginning, but there needs to be some certainty that there exists more than three examples worldwide.

WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
2020-07-23 17:39:07

Exactly. More examples are always better, as the more examples you have, the stronger your draft is.

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SamCurt Since: Jan, 2001
2020-07-24 12:00:55

The de facto minimum-example requirement is a total of 20 wicks (which also includes all that draft's super- and sub-tropes), if I remember correctly.

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ImmiThrax Since: Apr, 2020
2020-07-25 13:16:33

You should polish then publish, not publish then polish. It should be in a polished state prior to launch.

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Miss_Desperado Since: Sep, 2016
2020-07-25 13:41:30

There's an "outdated pages" thread, and one of the pages it updated was Administrivia.TLP Guidelines. Sadly, the thread can't update the little popup text boxes on TLP drafts that explain what hats and the launch button are for, as that takes the computer programmers of TV Tropes.

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