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2020-04-09 19:30:40

CDTAdventure/TropesAToK.

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rjd1922 Since: May, 2013
2020-04-09 20:32:37

No, per this thread, we don't use work titles as namespaces anymore. Split it the second way.

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
2020-04-09 20:43:52

^ Citation please? That just takes us to the main page, which tells us nothing. Where was this decided?

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bwburke94 (Y2: Electric Boogaloo)
2020-04-09 20:45:25

^ I'm not sure if it has been decided.

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2020-04-09 21:26:41

^^^ That is not at all what that post says.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
2020-04-10 01:22:33

Aye, if memory serves the exact format is not yet decided upon and Crossover-Enthusiast's format is the one currently in use.

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rjd1922 Since: May, 2013
2020-04-10 05:43:09

Since we don't want work pages as namespaces anymore, why shouldn't it be split as Roleplay/CDTAdventureTropesAToK and so on rather than creating more pages we'll have to move down the road?

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Twiddler MOD (On A Trope Odyssey)
2020-04-10 06:09:30

I am fond of this sort of idea from the thread, but the discussion never really went anywhere.

naturalironist Since: Jul, 2016
2020-04-10 11:34:08

For this page in particular, could some tropes be moved to a Characters page, instead of splitting the main? That is the preferred first line of splitting pages, and I see many tropes listed that, even by my strict standards, count as Character tropes.

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
2020-04-10 12:32:33

I have no idea why you keep saying we "don't want" these sort of namespaces anymore, rjd; there's a difference between us getting rid of things like Disney/ and Discworld/ as the main namespaces, and us keeping the normal namespace for the main page and using a custom namespace for the subpages. That's all they are. They're not work pages, so they shouldn't be in work page namespaces.

Either you're citing a rule that doesn't exist or misinterpreting a new standard that does exist, and either way it doesn't make much sense in this context; unless you think all trope subpages should be in main/, too?

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rjd1922 Since: May, 2013
2020-04-10 12:47:16

See the second answer in the Frequently Asked Questions folder of the pinned post in the thread I linked. We're not moving work subpages yet, but we want to shift away from them in anticipation for TV Tropes 2.0, so we shouldn't be making more subpages that use the work name as a namespace.

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Piterpicher (Series 2)
2020-04-10 12:51:33

My thoughts are summed up here, which I'm not sure Rjd has read. To sum it up, I don't think 2.0 is necessarily happening as it seems more like a dream we've given up on, no one has come up with a resolution, and there's a concrete goal in OP about "one off namespaces not in actual trope content". And tbh, I don't think splitting like Roleplay/ is a good idea because that may make it seem like it's for a work and sets such a page type (and there could be someone who makes a work that ends with Tropes A To K or something just to troll us). I'd rather use something like TropesAToK/ or Tropes1/ for potential easier work connection which wouldn't introduce quite as many namespaces (my posts there might have said something else, but I was an idiot back then).

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
2020-04-10 12:57:04

Yeah, if we absolutely need to not use the work as the namespace, fine, but we shouldn't have it as Roleplay/. That's too confusing and bloats the namespace too much; for a smaller namespace like Roleplay it might not be a big deal, but imagine that for one of our bigger namespaces, like Fanfic/ or Series/. It'll get ridiculous. (And, again, sets a weird Double Standard when it comes to Trope page splits, which use the Trope name and would have to be in Main/ now if we want consistency.)

Besides, while we do seem to want to move away from it, it's not a concrete rule that we can't do it, and 2.0 is a long way away, so we should find solutions that work here and now rather than force ourselves to work as if we're already in 2.0.

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