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miraculous (Apprentice)
29th Mar, 2020 02:11:47 PM

So these two are basically whitewashing a dicator who murdered thousands by putting all of his victims as "communists" basically....

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TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
29th Mar, 2020 04:10:25 PM

Yeah, this needs immediate action. They've turned the page into explicit apologia for mass murder.

Tuvok Since: Feb, 2010
29th Mar, 2020 04:13:46 PM

That was uncomfortable. Basically adding "communist" to mass murder makes it ok? Agreed to recommendation to revert.

TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
29th Mar, 2020 04:22:10 PM

This also calls for mod action. I'd call what they're doing "agenda based editing", though it deals weird to apply a term we use for obsessive shippers to apologists for political murder.

Edited by TheMountainKing
PrincessPandaTrope Since: Jan, 2017
29th Mar, 2020 05:07:51 PM

Should this deserve a ban?

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GrigorII Since: Aug, 2011
29th Mar, 2020 05:22:51 PM

I have checked the article history and most of the info added to it are historical facts, not praising. Unless any of it is factually wrong, I don't see the problem. Nobody wants to praise Pinochet, but he wasn't an evil alien that came from a UFO and started killing people for the heck of it; there was a historical context for it. There was indeed a conflict in South America at the time between Soviet-backed communist guerrillas that sought to establish communist dictatorships (as in Cuba) and US-backed right-wing dictatorships that sought to destroy them. That conflict was called "Cold War" (Vietnam was not the only "war by proxy" between the US and the Soviet Union).

Basically, Evil Versus Evil.

Edited by GrigorII Ultimate Secret Wars
TheMountainKing Since: Jul, 2016
29th Mar, 2020 05:32:07 PM

One of the edits classifies literal everyone Pinochet killed as "Communists", which only makes sense if you fully accept the government's narrative, covering up the reality that Pinochet killed a lot of people simply for opposing him, or for objecting to having the democratically elected leader of their country removed and replaced with an unelected military dictator.

Also, we shouldn't classify this conflict as Evil vs. Evil, because we do not trope of make comment on real world political conflicts. We should not have a page on Pinochet, because it fall so far outside the sites mission statement as to be completely absurd. All of the information could be found on wikipedia, but with advantage of requiring things like sources, having a better oversight system, and requiring an academic and neutral tone.

Edited by TheMountainKing
Florien Since: Aug, 2019
29th Mar, 2020 05:41:47 PM

On checking Antihero 276's edit history, there appears to be some questionable edits, including removing everything about the conspiracy theory that Dark Phoenix was deliberately undermined by Disney being a conspiracy theory, and some complaining about predictability in Game of Thrones.

EDIT: To clarify, I am also in favor of reverting.

Edited by Florien
Tuvok Since: Feb, 2010
29th Mar, 2020 05:45:28 PM

While historical fact the way they reshaped it really does seem apologia in action.

nombretomado (Season 1)
29th Mar, 2020 06:03:19 PM

Reverted. ETA: reviewing more carefully, suspended both. But, again, please do not speculate/call for bans in queries like this.

Edited by nombretomado
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