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MiinU Since: Jun, 2011
14th Feb, 2020 03:29:34 PM

Can either be An Offer You Can't Refuse, or a Shame If Something Happened

I wouldn't mind failure so much, if I didn't fail so much.
4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018
14th Feb, 2020 03:48:05 PM

Also Relative Button

We can never truly eradicate the coronavirus, but we can suppress its threat like influenza
MiinU Since: Jun, 2011
14th Feb, 2020 04:23:55 PM

^That trope is about taunting the hero by reminding them that their loved one has already been killed.

I wouldn't mind failure so much, if I didn't fail so much.
4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018
14th Feb, 2020 06:23:12 PM

^ That trope's description is too specific.

We can never truly eradicate the coronavirus, but we can suppress its threat like influenza
Pichu-kun Since: Jan, 2001
15th Feb, 2020 05:51:55 PM

None of those three fit.

What fits this: an abuser tells a person not to tell about the abuse or else they'll kill their parents?

4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018
15th Feb, 2020 06:10:58 PM

^ I Will Punish Your Friend for Your Failure

But seriously, I'd still use Relative Button for that

Edited by 4tell0life4 We can never truly eradicate the coronavirus, but we can suppress its threat like influenza
WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
15th Feb, 2020 06:20:53 PM

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, if Relative Button's current scope is just about the taunting aspect, as the description and laconic both claim, the description isn't too specific- it's the trope that's too specific, and the trope would need proper expansion, not a description re-write.

Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
MiinU Since: Jun, 2011
15th Feb, 2020 06:49:40 PM

@Pichu-kun: It's still Shame If Something Happened, which amounts to: 'Do as I say, or else someone you know gets hurt/or killed'. The abuser's threat in your example amounts to the same thing: 'Either keep quiet, or I'll kill your parents'.

Or, if you prefer there's Sexual Extortion and plain 'ol Blackmail. Any of them would fit your example.

I wouldn't mind failure so much, if I didn't fail so much.
Scorpion451 (Edited uphill both ways)
16th Feb, 2020 05:53:17 AM

@War Jay 77 my own broken record: descriptive good, prescriptive bad when it comes to tropes. We aren't creating them, we're figuring out what they're shaped like. Way too many people write descriptions declaring tropes to be trees or snakes. It needs to be fixed, but it's because someone didn't do a good job with the describing of the trope.

Pichu-kun Since: Jan, 2001
16th Feb, 2020 08:08:40 AM

^^ Does it count even if it's not a casual comment?

WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
16th Feb, 2020 08:47:01 AM

^^ I don't disagree with you, but since the trope is what it is, we can't expand it without discussion first. If we were in the TLP, I'd wholeheartedly agree with you.

Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
MiinU Since: Jun, 2011
16th Feb, 2020 09:39:42 AM

@Pichu-kun: Yes. The threat doesn't have to be casual. It can be blunt, or forceful.

The Walking Dead has a pretty good example of the latter, when Negan threatened to kill Rick's son right in front of him if Rick said another word. Rick got the message and stayed quiet, including when Negan chose two of his friends and beat them to death, while Rick was Forced to Watch.

Edited by MiinU I wouldn't mind failure so much, if I didn't fail so much.
Pichu-kun Since: Jan, 2001
16th Feb, 2020 10:15:13 AM

^ The laconic should be changed then.

MiinU Since: Jun, 2011
16th Feb, 2020 11:26:18 AM

^The laconic has been updated.

I wouldn't mind failure so much, if I didn't fail so much.
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