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AegisP Since: Oct, 2014
2019-11-27 23:57:39

Uhhhhh... I dunno you tell me... sorry for giving such a useless response. Bumping so it wont get buried.

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
2019-11-28 00:05:44

I don't even think that's a proper use of Harsher In Hindsight...

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Tomodachi Since: Aug, 2012
2019-11-28 06:57:28

Seems like natter to me, the troper who wrote the justification is basically saying "no, that's not what happens", making the whole entry kind of pointless. Needs rework.

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TantaMonty Since: Aug, 2017
2019-11-28 07:35:34

"This is technically not what happened". Yeah, that note is pure Natter. This entire entry should go.

GnomeTitan Since: Aug, 2013
2019-11-28 08:02:12

Yes, the footnote is natter and what could be called and anti-justifying edit. It also invalidates the example. I agree that the whole entry should go since I don't think it can be salvaged.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
2019-11-28 08:26:56

Actually, ~War Jay 77, this is one time I think we may have a legit entry. The event in the movie is made harsher by the movie's director getting away for similar crimes.

Very least there's a more direct link than I usually see with these.

Edited by sgamer82
WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
2019-11-28 08:41:42

^ Oh, I didn't know Polanski directed the thing.

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Orbiting Since: Nov, 2014
2019-11-28 11:12:27

If Polanski directed it, I agree it might be a legit example. It still needs to either be re-written to incorporate the info from the nite, or have the note removed entirely.

maxwellsilver Since: Sep, 2011
2019-11-28 11:52:57

I'm not so sure. The note states it isn't similar to what happened in the movie, since Polanski plead guilty and did jail time, which invalidates the entire entry.

I think it's safe to delete.

Orbiting Since: Nov, 2014
2019-11-28 14:39:42

Eh, he served less than two months of jail (not prison) time for raping a 13 year old, then escaped before he could be sentenced to prison: I’d call that pretty much scott-free.

Edited by Orbiting
shadowblack Since: Jun, 2010
2019-11-28 15:12:04

What's the difference between "jail" and "prison"? I always thought those two words are synnonyms...

As for the example, I guess it depends on what counts as "scott-free" and how similar was the real-life crime to the fictional one.

WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
2019-11-28 15:31:14

Polensky actually left the country a d doesn't set foot in American soil.

Orbiting Since: Nov, 2014
2019-11-28 18:14:06

^^ Jail is where you’re held during your trial; prison is where you’re sent if you’re found guilty and sentenced. Stays in prison are a lot longer than stays in jail.

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Albert3105 Since: Jun, 2013
2019-11-28 20:59:04

^ Sentence-specified prison stays are generally longer than jail time.

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Orbiting Since: Nov, 2014
2019-11-29 09:23:42

You’re right- I swapped prison and jail my last sentence there. Sorry about that.

Anyway though, is there consensus on whether to delete the example or not.

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010
2019-11-29 14:36:25

I honestly dunno on this one. Like, my default position on RL Harsher in Hindsight examples is that they're almost always shoehorns, and there is a bit of that going on here - but it's also pretty much true to say that Polanski escaped justice for his crime in every meaningful sense.

Chabal2 Since: Jan, 2010
2019-11-29 20:43:43

My issue with the note was that it comes across as defending Polanski. The example itself I think fits.

Tomodachi Since: Aug, 2012
2019-11-30 06:57:36

Not necesarily a defense, just a devil's attorney pointing out is not the same context as the fictional example.

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