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Vanilla Protagonist is a bad example. It's a trope for a main character who is relatively bland in order to help make the supporting cast more interesting by comparison. It's not for complaining about boring protagonists.
The Bond Villain Stupidity one is entirely wrong; he didn't shoot her because he realized it would be pointless considering how overpowered she is by this point. Goading her into not using her superpowers by appealing to a fist fight was the only way he stood somewhat a chance.
Hence "more likely than not". I'm not saying all of them are invalid, just a disproportionate amount based on the amount of drama and complaining this page has already attracted before the movie was even in theaters.
For example, as already noted by others, literally everything in the OP.
Edited by sgamer82Which doesn't change the fact that this movie has caused a disproportionate amount of drama for a single movie.
The primary reason it's perfectly fine is because of threads like this keeping tabs on it.
Nearly a third of the most recent edits involve some form of misuse deletion, including ones from this thread.
Edited by sgamer82It also doesnt change the fact that the above edits seem more like opinion pieces. Not only that half are not valid. Example of course after seeing Carol decimate a fleet with her powers her former Captain is not going to try to go toe to toe power wise, thats just common sense not stupidity. Also Vanilla protaganist really comes off ZCE, more to be put there to complain then to be a point. If they could provide links to criticisms online fine, if they could make it seem more a valid point and less about what they disliked even better. Also its hard to take that example seriously when even BEFORE the film came out many so called fans were already complaining about her existence. So any example especially one that comes out more about a gripe then stating a trope. I would take with a grain of salt. Especially now with conspiracy theories online trying to downplay the films success to an almost toxic degree. You just have to go on You Tube to see how crazy it is. Simply put, can we honestly say that 'some' people find her vanilla, or is it the usual lot which taints any such criticism because we simply CANT take it at face value. Considering the fan toxicity was so bad we had to shut down the YMMV twice! In retrospect there is no way to add that example because thanks to the divided fandom and hate on the character even before their showing. The trope cannot be added fairly because the character was judged and marked as 'boring' or worse even before the film came out. Tainted opinions means that the trope cannot be added without suspected motivations .
Artistic licence military: the film specifies that they test the research planes. I don't know how historically accurate that could be, but possibly needs mentioning if you want to keep that example. Also feels nattery
Narm: Maybe? Fury points out immediately that destroying the jukebox wasn't particularly sensible, the rest of it feels like weird complaining.
As said, vanilla protag isn't a good use of the trope and feels complain-y
I don't think any of those examples are correct.
- Artistic License – Military: Carol and Maria were testing research for Minn (so they're not technically fighter pilots) and its implied a lot of the stuff they did with Minn was clandestine since Minn was working on her own project whilst employed in the military (that her bosses may or may not have known about).
- Bond Villain Stupidity is just wrong. It was made very clear that Yon realised his gun wouldn't help him against the extremely OP Carol so he tried to goad her into a powerless fist fight because it was the only way he'd have a chance. That's the opposite of stupidity.
- Narm is misuse. It's for unintentionally funny scenes. Both those scenes are intentionally funny. Fury even points out that her blast doesn't prove anything because he has no idea what a Kree or Skrull is.
- Vanilla Protagonist is misuse. A vanilla protag is "a protagonist whose characteristics and background are plainer or simpler compared to the rest of the cast". Carol is not plainer than the rest of the movie cast.
edit: I just noticed that Emberfist re-added examples to the YMMV (which was also incorrectly formatted and had grammatical errors) and Main pages without edit reasons and despite people here criticising said examples.
Edited by Clanger00^ Edit 3.
- The Narm example was first added by Emberfist.
- Then removed by Death'sApprentice with the edit reason "That bit where she tried to prove she wasn't a Skrull using her photon blast to Fury was intended to be a joke. I'm pretty sure that doesn't count as Narm."
- Then re-added unaltered by Emberfist with no edit reason and no link to this thread.
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- The Artistic License example was first added by Emberfist
- Then removed by Azure Owl with the edit reason "Maria mentions that at the time of Carol's disappearance, women weren't allowed to fly in combat. This is why they flew experimental planes at Project Pegasus."
- Then re-added by Emberfist with a bit about how the film handwaves it using the above excuse but it still counts. Again no edit reason or link here. He also incorrectly links to Artistic License – Military.
Oh, Emberfist... why'd you bother bringing the examples here if you were just going to edit war over them anyway?
Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper WallAnd it's not like ~Emberfist wasn't warned about this exact type of thing last time they were suspended (specifically edit warring she respecting the consensus)
If I remember correctly, both their suspensions were over edit wars, so I guess that's that.
Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper WallPlease don't backseat mod. However, you are right that this is the end for Emberfist.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"For what it’s worth the Artistic License – Military currently has a justifying entry for it.
The justifying entry isn't valid - it says that the movie takes place after women were okayed to fly combat in 1993, but the editor forgot that the movie's US Air Force stuff was all in flashbacks to 1989. I was tempted to cut the justification and/or tweak the main entry based on that, but I wanted to wait until this thread had a consensus.
I didn't pull the Artistic License example because I wasn't sure whether other people wanted to keep it. But my vote is to remove it entirely since different people have now given multiple justifications for the pilot thing (they weren't fighter pilots, their flying was kept on the down low, the film possibly takes place after the ban was lifted, etc).
Edited by Clanger00The timeline excuse doesn't work because the film takes place over different decades. That said, this thread seems to be in agreement that it isn't military license being taken.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.Can artistic military license apply to the MCU universe? Ww 2 had mixed battelions at a time when segregation was in effect. Hell in the potential recriuts to receive the super serum some were black. The MCU Military seems more pragmatic then real life.

Okay so the title may be an exaggeration but I have been finding some examples for Captain Marvel which I feel would fit. However since I don't want to Edit War I am looking for some second opinions. The examples deleted are as follows: