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Tuvok Since: Feb, 2010
2019-03-05 20:53:33

Well looking over their edits they seem to be putting justified examples instead of assumption and oversimplified ones. I have noted you as well have added examples using assumption to make them valid. Did you invite them to Discussion regarding this. It's easy to create a page and PM them .

Tuvok Since: Feb, 2010
2019-03-05 20:59:08

They also removed tropes that where wrong contextually and gave pretty sound reasons why. But that's my opinion as stated before take to discussion and PM them an invite.

309216364 Since: Jun, 2016
2019-03-05 21:07:01

How exactly are my arguments solely based on assumption? I list facts. I give examples from the Tropes themselves. I don't want to get into detail, you can read again for yourself and I must admit I have a really hard time believing you went through the entire discussion page in under 15 minutes.

309216364 Since: Jun, 2016
2019-03-05 21:09:29

Also, I don't think Ember Fist wants to debate this any further and he made that pretty clear.

Tuvok Since: Feb, 2010
2019-03-05 21:31:39

You still take it to discussion to get other opinions or ATT and get the consensus there based on other troper input. My input is that Ember Fist made valid corrections. Others may feel otherwise. But to act without consensus and re-edit the entry is an Edit War.

Arctimon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
2019-03-05 21:33:44

^Which someone has already been permanently suspended over, so you guys need to tread carefully here.

Tuvok Since: Feb, 2010
2019-03-05 21:36:34

Oh I have no interest in that page. Just giving the OP an answer.

Arctimon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
2019-03-05 21:39:07

I know; I'm just expanding on what you said.

But I'm sure he already knew that.

309216364 Since: Jun, 2016
2019-03-05 21:45:47

That is why I have not made any edits yet.

I am rather taken aback by the opinion that EF made "valid corrections". All he did was restore the content without any legitimate argument. This is not bias at work, this is not ignorance. I have thoroughly investigated the points and listed out examples with direct quotes from the film to support me. The evidence is all there.

Every Marvel movie has some rather convoluted plot, most notably Baron Zemo's plan to dismantle the Avengers. I will not go into detail, but there were a lot of ways that it could have easily resolved. That does not necessarily make the plot stupid. Instead, that is up for debate.

Again I am not saying every example should be removed. I have been attempting to compromise and will continue to do so. I also will not re-edit until a consensus has been reached.

nombretomado (Season 1)
2019-03-06 18:05:21

Fun times - 309216364 was Deeed ban-evading. Emberfist has been banned again, for edit-warring. It's like a nice little reincarnation cycle.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
2019-03-07 06:15:54

So, where do we go from here?

Based on the discussion page, of the not-permanently-banned people who commented on it, three (myself, Emberfist, and Charmo) think it applies. The only one to say it doesn't and makes total sense is deeed, and, well, yeah. So it's 3-0 that it applies (assume Emberfist isn't permabanned, but even so it's 2-0. But if you count miraculous from the original ATT query, that's another probable [but not definite] voice for restoring) which means it probably should go back.

Personally, I would like a rewrite of it but I'm honestly not up to the task and would be fine with it just being restored if no one wants to step up.

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TheNerfGuy Since: Mar, 2011
2019-03-07 06:30:57

Should 309216364's edits be deleted due to them being a ban evader?

SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
2019-03-07 06:59:58

I was suspicious, but it seemed that 309216364 was created long before Deeed was banned. Guess they have been running two accounts for a while.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
2019-03-07 07:16:44

Yeah, I had the exact same thoughts.

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gjjones Since: Jul, 2016
2019-03-07 07:18:20

So, given that he's a ban evader, I agree with TheNerfGuy that 309216364's edits should be reverted at the very least.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
2019-03-07 07:56:07

Courtesy link.

It's safe to say that anything they added after deeed was banned can be removed. The only question is what to do about IdiotPlot.Live Action Film.

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Emberfist Since: Nov, 2018
2019-03-08 08:39:09

I already reworked the entry to make it easier to read through by sorting everything by character or in two cases events. I think it is safe to say the entry should stay but it may need a few more resvisions.

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