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6th Dec, 2018 08:58:40 AM

Competence Zone for the more general sense, where anyone outside a specific age band are either dead weight or opposing forces

7th Dec, 2018 01:32:50 PM

Not exactly. What I was looking for was the conflict itself, as in how the kids and the adults are treated by the story as if they are longstanding enemies, even though one of them will become the other within two decades.

7th Dec, 2018 01:45:16 PM

Yep, that's Competence Zone. Adults Are Useless and Teens Are Monsters are subtropes focusing on specific "unhelpful at best" portrayals of those outside the zone.

7th Dec, 2018 03:46:41 PM

^ it's specifically about which side the story favors, right...

And that trope doesn't even require such conflict in the first place.

11th Dec, 2018 08:39:28 AM

No. it's about the conflict itself. Kids versus adults.

11th Dec, 2018 09:02:13 AM

I know what you're talking about, something that comes to mind as an example is School's Out! The Musical.

Edited by WarJay77
11th Dec, 2018 09:28:04 AM

I think this is worth a TLP.

11th Dec, 2018 09:38:23 AM

This does sound like Competence Zone. The part where one becomes the other is even mentioned in the description, in the paragraph where it refers to the zone moving with the characters as they age.

11th Dec, 2018 09:52:16 AM

I fail to see how this is Competence Zone. This is a plot and conflict trope depiciting something of a war between kids and adults, not about the age groups being competent and incompetent.

11th Dec, 2018 11:07:49 AM

An actual war between the two could be its own thing, but I'm thinking we're being more figurative here, is that right? I'm honestly asking. I feel like I'm missing something about the objection to Competence Zone.

Competence here isn't just about any one measurable skill, it's about how competent they are as the heroes of their respective stories, and I think that includes their moral judgment and awareness of any moral factors in play, in the sense that those are competencies in their own right.

Edited by Unsung
11th Dec, 2018 02:51:21 PM

Seems related to Silly Reason for War, where the reason is "one side is older than the other."

12th Dec, 2018 04:28:54 AM

^ Took it loong enough, yeah?