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makarovak47 Since: Mar, 2012
2018-08-08 03:53:41

Yo, just making a follow up.

Fighteer MOD (Time Abyss)
2018-08-08 05:56:42

I find the idea of a "franchise actors" index to be kind of pointless, to be honest. Maybe TRS it.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
2018-08-08 06:16:50

I find a lot of indexes to be pointless. But also harmless. This is among them.

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lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012
2018-08-08 09:18:27

Just as a side note, why is ASOUE on your list? It’s a book series that got films and two TV shows, seems more qualified than, well, Animaniacs. Of course, if there’s enough actors then it’s a solid index.

Edited by lakingsif OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
CrypticMirror Since: Jan, 2001
2018-08-09 07:58:27

What do you mean by needing to remove them to make room? Are we running out of server space?

makarovak47 Since: Mar, 2012
2018-08-10 06:39:16

Sorry took this long to reply.

@lakingsif: I didn't know they were audio books and video games of ASOUE, so my bad.

For @Crpytic Minor: IDTS, but a franchise has to have at least an adaptation or/and a Spin-Off to be called such. Long-Runners can count too.

Edited by makarovak47
makarovak47 Since: Mar, 2012
2018-08-11 14:29:44

Update: There's a new Desperate Housewives Actors now too. I mean, seriously? A popular show doesn't make it a franchise, as I've said above regarding the likes of House Actors, Lost Actors, et al. There's also a new Dallas Actors page and I personally find it irrelevant too, but at least it's a long runner and has a Spin-Off (Sequel Series rather).

lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012
2018-08-12 04:57:47

I thought Desperate Housewives was a reality show?

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makarovak47 Since: Mar, 2012
2018-08-12 06:32:33

No, you're talking about The Real Housewives. 😂

Mickoonsley19 Since: Feb, 2018
2018-08-12 23:39:02

Two comments:

  1. Why are these Useful Notes? Does a list of Animaniacs voice actors help readers understand the connection between real life and fictional media? Does it help writers portray anything in their works?
  2. Isn't it kind of redundant to have these when we have character sheets? Our character sheets already name the actors associated with each character.

Edited by Mickoonsley19
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
2018-08-12 23:49:15

  1. Personally I suspect that some people use Useful Notes as a dumping ground for anything that does not cleanly fit elsewhere.
  2. I am actually inclined to agree with this.

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makarovak47 Since: Mar, 2012
2018-08-13 00:25:43

@Mickoonsley 19:

1. IDK, and just to be clear I find many of the pages there useful, it's just that a handful (see my examples above) are irrelevant and doesn't really fit the franchise category (they're just popular works).

2. Character Sheets are for the characters they play, these pages are index pages for the complete list of actors who appeared in the series franchise.

@Septimus Heap: I know, and thank you for understanding my point.

P.S., turns out Dallas had two Spin-Offs (Knots Landing and the aforementioned 2012 Sequel Series) so I guess its actors index page can get a pass.

jamespolk Since: Aug, 2012
2018-08-14 12:04:49

All of these are pointless.

Fighteer MOD (Time Abyss)
2018-08-14 12:44:07

We all know that IMDB is a thing, right? We don't need to be an index of actor appearances.

Edited by Fighteer "It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012
2018-08-14 13:11:24

But they're fun, aren't they. Indexes that are basically a character page seem pointless, but for a franchise or adaptation index, it's fun and a bit useful.

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CrypticMirror Since: Jan, 2001
2018-08-14 15:40:02

I don't really see the use for them, but I don't really see the harm either. I would have thought that unless they are causing either server trouble or detracting from the site in someway (like being flamebait, etc) then there really is no problem.

makarovak47 Since: Mar, 2012
2018-08-16 04:26:31

Should I just send those pages straight to the CutList? That's originally what I thought anyway, but decided that maybe consult things first.

makarovak47 Since: Mar, 2012
2018-08-20 04:58:28

Since I'm not getting any clear answers, I just went ahead and sent these pages to the CutList.

costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
2018-08-21 07:26:44

It seems that the House and Desperate Housewives pages have been recreated after being cut.

crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010
2018-08-21 07:29:06

The troper in question is Saveelich

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makarovak47 Since: Mar, 2012
2018-08-21 07:49:22

@costanton11: Yup.

Edited by makarovak47
costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
2018-08-21 09:49:48

Should anything be done with the recreated pages?

makarovak47 Since: Mar, 2012
2018-08-21 10:04:18

@costanton11: Send them back to the CutList I guess.

Edited by makarovak47
makarovak47 Since: Mar, 2012
2018-08-22 00:19:40

@crazysamaritan: Sorry I wasn't able to reply. I checked the page history. He did majority of the pages (as in about 75% of them), mostly useful and justified except for the Animaniacs, Desperate Housewives, Dexter, House, Lost, and Neon Genesis Evangelion pages. cwf123 created the Samurai Jack page, while James Austin created the Westworld one.

makarovak47 Since: Mar, 2012
2018-08-22 05:43:36

Update: This Saveelich quadrupled the other non-long runner, non-anthology, and non-series/movie franchise pages. Is this some sort of retaliation?

nombretomado (Season 1)
2018-08-22 06:16:57

Why don't you PM them and ask them to this conversation?

Fighteer MOD (Time Abyss)
2018-08-22 07:15:48

I suspended them immediately for edit-warring. We can talk about it later.

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Saveelich Since: Jun, 2016
2018-08-22 09:54:19

If these lists are not acceptable because they don't fit any of these categories, then so be it. Sorry for my late answers to this issue and recreations of cut pages.

Saveelich Since: Jun, 2016
2018-08-22 11:22:15

@ makarovak47

It wasn't intended as a retaliation, I was trying to create new indexes to have them fit. But if these lists have to go, then I will let go.

makarovak47 Since: Mar, 2012
2018-08-24 03:42:42

@nombretomado and @Fighteer: Sorry for the late reply guys, work stuff.

@Saveelich: Hello, and I'm sorry for thinking that (the "retaliation" thing). Anyways, I personally think that you made several great and useful index pages, and actually commend you for having the patience to create them. It's just that some of them doesn't really fit the "Franchise" definition and doesn't really ran that long to warrant a page.

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