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ADrago Since: Dec, 2015
2018-06-02 11:55:42

I don't think Base Breaking Characters can be Unintentionally Unsympathetic because a character being base-breaking implies the unsympathy isn't universal enough.

Edited by ADrago
Arivne Since: Jan, 2001
2018-06-03 06:02:40

The BaseBreakingCharacter Cleanup thread might be able to help you with this question.

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katethegr8 Since: Oct, 2014
2018-06-03 09:43:32

I'd say cut all except Ginny's entry, which could at least use a rewrite to be less complainy, and nuke the Creator's Pet bit at the beginning as that's blatant shoehorning.

To trope, or not to trope...that is the question.
mouschilight Since: Mar, 2017
2018-06-04 09:52:59

Honestly, it sounds like there's a lot of bashing in each entry, especially Ginny's. I think each of them should stay in Base-Breaking Character since none of them truly fit Unintentionally Unsympathetic and all of them legitimately have a fair amount of both a fandom and a hatedom (which fits BBC pretty much to a T), but they need to be rewritten to sound more neutral, especially since character bashing or personal bias of any kind is not allowed here. They should be rewritten to reflect why some fans like them and some fans hate them. As katethegr8 said above, these entries are far too complainy and not neutral and just overall full of bashing and bias against each of them.

Edited by mouschilight "In conversation, do you listen or wait to talk?" "I have to admit that I wait to talk, but I'm trying harder to listen." — Pulp Fiction
dragonfire5000 Since: Jan, 2001
2018-06-04 09:57:50

Base-Breaking Character isn't just "has a fair amount of both a fandom and a hatedom" though, it's "a character who is either loved or hated with very little or no middle ground even long after the work debuted."

"I squirm, I struggle, ergo I am. Faced with death, I am finally, truly alive."
mouschilight Since: Mar, 2017
2018-06-04 10:05:11

Actually, the Laconic page of Base-Breaking Character says "Some think they're awesome, some think they're The Scrappy." So continuing from my post above, I think each entry should be rewritten to reflect precisely why some fans like them and other fans don't. There's way too much bashing and bias against each of them, and the moderators told me in the past that TV Tropes strives to be neutral and that bashing and bias of any kind is not allowed here. So they need to be rewritten to be more neutral and remove any kind of bias and/or bashing.

"In conversation, do you listen or wait to talk?" "I have to admit that I wait to talk, but I'm trying harder to listen." — Pulp Fiction
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