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...that sounds pretty messed-up. I too understand that funny and awesome pages are subjective, but why anyone would find a scene like that to even be a good thing, let alone funny or awesome, is beyond me.
The Crosses the Line Twice entry sounds like it's only crossing the line once and the Awesome entry has a natter problem in addition to calling suicide awesome. I removed the Crosses the Line Twice entry's misuse of Crazy Awesome for now.
Edited by GastonRabbit Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Anyone else wanna weigh in? This is just disturbing.
Find the troper who added that entry and see if the rest of their history is like that.
I'm not sure if the Crosses the Line Twice and Awesome entries were written by the same person; the latter doesn't even appear in the history (it was presumably purged when history purging was a thing) and the first edit shown is natter added in 2011. All Crosses the Line Twice examples were added by smasll_lordvoice
earlier this year and that user's history doesn't show anything from before this year.
Edit: I meant 2011, not 2014. The first edit shown in the Awesome page's history is from Koopacooper in 2011.
Update: Found these likely Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgment violations from the former user's first day of editing.
Update to the update: It looks like there are more ROCEJ violations on the page I mentioned in the history update, in addition to a lot of plain bad example writing. Might be worth posting this page in the ROCEJ thread if posting it here isn't enough.
Edited by GastonRabbit Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
So does anyone think I should temove the entries?
I mean, Heroic Suicide and Suicide as Comedy are tropes. A moment involving suicide doesn't necessarily mean it should be disqualified as a Moment.
That said, the examples seem pretty poorly written overall.
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^This sounds more like an example of Driven to Suicide and it's being called unintentionally funny. The unintentional aspect disqualifies it from Suicide as Comedy.
Edited by GastonRabbit Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Haven't seen the film, but it seems that the point was to create a Golden Ending for everyone else by taking out the element ruining everyone's lives, himself. That sounds like a Heroic Suicide to me, but again, haven't seen it.
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If it's Heroic Suicide then that might explain the Awesome entry, but as I previously said the Crosses the Line Twice entry was added several years later and presumably by a separate person.
Edit: The Crosses the Line Twice page calls the trope "Moral Event Horizon Played for Laughs" and Played for Laughs refers to it having to be done intentionally, so it sounds like unintentional examples of Crosses the Line Twice aren't a thing. According to SeptimusHeap on the talk page, the YMMV classification is there "Because it relies on Audience Opinion that something extremely offensive is funny." I'm interpreting that as meaning it has to be intended to be funny (like the page quote), regardless of whether it works, as opposed to covering any sort of Narm.
Edited by GastonRabbit Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
I removed the natter from the awesome page and deleted the Crosses the Line Twice section for misuse. I still we should cut the whole suicide thing from the awesome page. It's not even a Heroic Suicide, because the theatrical release shows he could have solved the problem just as well without having to kill himself, meaning he really was Driven to Suicide, which is just tragic.
Okay, I know awesome and comedy are supposed to subjective, but...
In YMMV.The Butterfly Effect, under Crosses the Line Twice, there's an entry that says Evan going back in time to kill himself as an fetus is unintentionally hilarious and awesome. Also, in Awesome.The Butterfly Effect, there's a whole entry that goes into detail about just why said event is so awesome.
This just seems... wrong. It's not just me, is it?
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