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jameygamer Since: May, 2014
8th Dec, 2017 03:51:49 AM

Doesn't quite look kosher to me. It also looks complainy. Should I message him?

Edited by jameygamer
Candi Since: Aug, 2012
8th Dec, 2017 06:11:20 AM

Cracked is generally reliable.

But

Their writing guidelines also insist on links out the wazoo supporting their points. Which raises the question of why those sources weren't used instead.

Then there's linking to editorials and opinion pieces, which raises the point of supporting something subjective with... something else subjective?

Wall of Text, Natter, and Complaining are right out.

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
11th Dec, 2017 09:58:38 PM

More YMMV.Star Wars stuff is going on, including triple bullet entries as follows and a really long double bullet one...

"*** Many have also cited the fact that Lucas can't write dialogues, citing the complaints made by many actors, such as Harrison Ford and others deprecating it as corny. This again ignores the context of the production of A New Hope. What actors were deprecating was not merely the dialogue but the very nature of the project itself. The reason Lucas had so much trouble on A New Hope is that the very concept of the film, i.e. a B-Movie Serial Genre Throwback but done with higher production values was considered absurd, as did most of Lucas' collaborators and producers, and what upset many of them was that Lucas was playing the genre straight rather than submitting it to a Mel Brooks' style parody. Lucas' Homage to Flash Gordon serials was seen with bemused contempt because those films were highly disreputable and Lucas was the only one who envisioned that the Serial could be revived via Reconstruction and higher production values. And this by itself is more than enough among auteurists to make Lucas the main creator of Star Warsnote . It's also important to note that the most famous lines of dialogue in the entire Star Wars media, which most would argue is the least corniest moment in the entire series, was written entirely by Lucas alone. "

"*** Likewise, some Some have even claimed that Lucas can't direct films based on remarks that Lucas gave only vague remarks and didn't discuss motivations with actors on set or so on. This is likewise standard among all film-makers, for instance, Alfred Hitchcock during production never discussed character motivations, and would prefer to shoot the breeze with his stars in-between takes rather than discuss the scenes. The usual stock response for directors is that issues of motivations and characterization happen in script and rehearsals but not during the shooting of the film, since it's an expensive process racing against a ticking clock, and that stopping a production so that an actor can get in the mood has created more nightmares than you can shake a fist atnote . Furthermore, Lucas made a name for himself directing THX 1138 and American Graffiti, meaning he had the best profile of all directors to work on Star Wars until the Disney Era."

"** The Disney Star Wars films have also gotten criticism. Rogue One was a Contested Sequel because it more or less provided an Obvious Rule Patch on the "flaw in the Death Star" plot of the first film, while also re-contextualizing important scenes in A New Hope (i.e. Darth Vader's first meeting with Leia) in an unintentionally absurd light. It's a fact the producers behind the series openly admit that they don't really have a full long-term plan for a single story to tell, with actors admitting that they don't entirely plan to reveal all mysteries for the characters so as to maintain and increase Fanfic Fuel, Fanfic Fuel. Even Mark Hamill, the only actor to believe in Lucas' vision from the very beginning, and one of the few cast members intimate with George Lucas admitted that he struggled with The Last Jedi over Rian Johnson's vision of the character which he saw as entirely different from his. As such a number of viewers believe that Star Wars is no longer a real saga or mythos, but merely a set of wheels to spin until the well entirely dries."

Edited by lalalei2001 The Protomen enhanced my life.
Candi Since: Aug, 2012
12th Dec, 2017 06:52:08 AM

Okay, my brain is officially breaking. Those need a trim, badly.

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
WaterBlap Since: May, 2014
12th Dec, 2017 07:03:25 AM

On YMMV.Game Of Thrones, they added Spiritual Antithesis (a regular trope) from most of the Spiritual Licensee entry but they didn't finish the job and move the trope to the work page. That may have been a fluke, though.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
13th Dec, 2017 08:56:58 PM

Still going on YMMV. Star Wars.

"Many of the edits to the original trilogy are so infamously derided by the Vocal Minority who can actually notice it that many other viewers, especially newcomers who didn't see the trilogy in the original run, don't really see what the fuss is all about.note  Some speculate that one reason the edits are so reviled is due to the Internet giving people who care about these changes a larger platform to make their views heard, and by George Lucas' anti-fan attitude and alleged mockery towards such fans note  causing unnecessary escalation and poor synergy between which didn't of course affect the creator and fanbase. Some box-office take of either the prequels, the home video releases of the Special Editions, or the sequels. Other fans, even old-school fans have even cooled down about Star Wars fans, feel the issue; they note that issue is moot with Disney owning Star Wars, as Lucas cannot make any more edits to the originals (thus quelling fears of future tampering), note , and some of them admit Lucas' changes to be minor:"

Edited by lalalei2001 The Protomen enhanced my life.
lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
13th Dec, 2017 09:51:27 PM

Still going.

"** One of the models for the entire Star-Wars saga is the fall of The Roman Republic, as well as the fall of the Weimar Republic which happened in real-history out of a series of polarizations, outbreak of political violence, decay of institutions, voter-intimidation and economic crises (in both, but especially in Germany). The prequels could have ideally given us a truly great epic that makes its setting as dense as the Hollywood Epic Movie at its best made the Ancient World, but instead, Lucas makes it entirely about how one Big Bad was secretly responsible for every bad thing that happens. In addition to making for simplistic storytelling, it more or less makes the Jedi and other political figures who would eventually form the Resistance into a bunch of chumps on the run, and the entire ideology of the Resistance in the original trilogy, and the Disney movies, hollow, since the system they are fighting to restore and uphold fell to a single cunning operator, rather than long-term real issues that audiences can buy that the heroes would tackle. Likewise, the romance between a Jedi Knight and the Queen of Naboo ends up becoming a teen-YA melodrama rather than an epoch-transforming romance on the order of Caesar-Cleopatra and Cleopatra-Antony."

"** A number of observers see Anakin's fall into the Sith in the prequels as an example of how individuals are brainwashed and gas-lighted into cults by charismatic leaders who shrewdly and carefully manipulate, mould, and force them into following a way of life entirely different from their set of beliefs and ideas. "

The Protomen enhanced my life.
Fighteer MOD (Time Abyss)
14th Dec, 2017 06:14:50 AM

Well, they've been forum banned for this sort of thing, now they have escalated to the wiki. Can't say they didn't have their chances.

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