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2nd Oct, 2017 07:37:37 PM

Not really. Passing the Torch is in effect when the mentor wants to retire and let someone else do his job. This is NOT what I'm talking about. What I'm talking about is when the mentor in question does not want to step down from his position, but still gets an apprentice/pupil. For exemple, take Goku and Gohan from DBZ. Goku took his son under his wing during the Cell saga to teach him stuff like how to become a super saiyan, but he didn't plan to retire at all. In fact, he continued long after that and is still continuing today.

2nd Oct, 2017 11:37:45 PM

I really don't see why the mentor archetype should inherently exclude the protagonist, so much so, that it would require its own trope instead of simply ascribing them as The Mentor or its more relevant subtropes.

3rd Oct, 2017 08:31:45 PM

Because this specific instance/variant happens many times more than once. The mentor archetype trope has spawned many offshoots. And yes, before anyone asks, I've looked at not only the entire Mentor Index to make sure that this specific variation wasn't present in it, but I've also looked at the tropes that you guys told me to look at. Sure, they come close, but they don't really match the variation in question...but still, I appreciate the help. Thanks, guys. :)

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