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24th Aug, 2017 11:32:02 PM

Nah, you commented out the ZCE, that's textbook fine.

25th Aug, 2017 12:07:17 AM

You can message him back with a link to the Zero-Context Example page where it says commenting out said entries is common procedure. Pages Needing Example Context, which is linked to from Zero-Context Example, also says that is an acceptable course of action.

Edited by homogenized
25th Aug, 2017 12:24:17 AM

Comment out ZCE is standard procedure, nobody is omnipotent.

And I look at Minister Of Sinister's edit, some of them are still ZCE too (the usual "this is the trope" without explanation why).

Edited by Kuruni
25th Aug, 2017 12:46:35 AM

Yes I did PM him saying what I did was in line with site policy, and that a couple of the edits he made to put back the examples I commented out were still Zero Context. I haven't got a reply yet but it wasn't too long ago so he may not have seen it yet.

I am glad that what I did wasn't in error so thank you all of you.

25th Aug, 2017 06:29:05 AM

The only thing (in general) to watch out for is tropes/works that have multiple ZC Es under one heading and one filled out example. In that case, after commenting out the ZC Es, you indent the one filled out example as though it was the only example. Later editors who fill out other examples can change the indentation. But I don't see that problem here.

(I know about this one because I asked about it once.)

25th Aug, 2017 07:18:16 AM

Minister Of Sinister's edits on Characters.Baldurs Gate II Other Party Members has spoiler policy violations in addition to uncommenting ZC Es without adding the right context, along with parabombing. They also modified an example of Video Game Caring Potential without adding the right amount of context on VideoGame.Baldurs Gate II.

Their edit history, but I haven't gone through everything yet.

26th Aug, 2017 03:40:41 PM

If you just commented out the ZC Es then he was in the wrong to send you that message. Some edits of Minister Of Sinister are still lacking context like: * Innocent Blue Eyes: Surprisingly big ones, too, as if the artist were trying to really draw attention to them.

26th Aug, 2017 04:15:15 PM

Minister of Sinister did recomment those ZC Es in and added wording to give them context. I'll give him that. Some, however, don't feel like they have context, but others do.

26th Aug, 2017 09:29:47 PM

If they didn't sent that PM to Sebastian Gray, I too would give them that ("not good enough, but at least you tried"). But with that PM telling people to not just comment out ZCE (like...everyone should understand every tropes and known everything in every fictional works), they better do nothing less than perfection.

27th Aug, 2017 11:57:51 AM

It's been a couple of days since I messages Minister Of Sinister asking him how he I was wrong in commenting out the ZCEs and pointing out that some of the ones he re-added still lacked context but I haven't had any reply. Should I comment out the examples again without it being counted as an edit war?

Edited by SebastianGray
27th Aug, 2017 12:54:09 PM

Feel free to do so. I don't think we'd consider it edit warring even without you asking here.

27th Aug, 2017 01:14:13 PM

Okay. I have commented out the most obvious ones I noticed. I will try to go over the page in more detail if/when I have time in the coming week.

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