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23rd Jul, 2017 03:22:50 AM

I don't see any entries matching what you said. There is an entry with bad formatting, which I fixed just now.

Anyway, those may not be spam, but those do violate Weblinks Are Not Examples, and are thus Zero Context Example. Either delete them, comment them out, or if you're familiar with the work, add more context.

23rd Jul, 2017 09:46:28 AM

Here.

  • In the RWBY fic For Better or Norse, Nora Valkyrie is re-imagined as an actual member of the Norse Valkyries. After she botches the collection of Lie Ren's soul for Valhalla by inadvertently preventing his death, she is punished by being exiled to Midgard until Ren dies. Ren takes responsibility for her and they start living together.
  • In Onegai Megami-Sama, Matagu Shido pulls a Keiichi when he accidentally summons Peorth and wishes that she'd be his girlfriend.
  • In Beyond Death, Thanos of all people becomes a male example to an elementary school teacher after crash-landing on Earth. While it's initially subverted (he was going to kill her once he'd recovered, and the only reason he didn't was because she became fused with the Tessarect), they slowly but surely fall for each other.
  • In Arnold's Vampire, Helga is a Dhampyr who ends up bonded to Arnold after she drinks his blood, and ends up falling in love with him.
  • In Out of the Woods, The Slenderman becomes the boyfriend of a human boy.
  • For the Love of a Goddess and its sequel Come Heaven or Hell detail (via a series of Drabbles) Belldandy becoming the girlfriend of Xander, and she and her sisters get involved with the Scoobies.

I think the proper way to trope non-exist article is to making red link. not external link.

Edited by Kuruni
23rd Jul, 2017 10:47:32 AM

It's not spam or advertising unless you're doing it to your own fanfic. There's no point in making a work page for the fanfic if there's only going to be that one example, especially if it's a 3000 word oneshot.

The point of these links is to allow readers quick access to the fanfic in question, especially considering quite a few of them are not indexed on Google so you can't even get to them that way. If you want to try and get a consensus to remove these, go ahead, but it's unlikely to work.

A bigger problem in Fanfiction folders is not mentioning the original work, especially when there's no page for the fanfic.

Madrugada MOD
23rd Jul, 2017 11:40:59 AM

^ No.

@Kuruni is correct. Redlink to where our page would be if we had one. Our purpose is not to serve as a pointer to fanfics someone thinks should be read.

Advertising is advertising, even if it's not for your own story. We trope works. If it can't be troped, it shouldn't be mentioned. And even 3000-word one-shots are allowed a page here, as long as the page is made properly (description, and at least three tropes with good examples.)

Edited by Madrugada
23rd Jul, 2017 10:38:25 PM

Thank you. On second thought, I'll replace the external links with redlinks instead of outright remove them.

24th Jul, 2017 09:06:56 AM

Just so we're clear, links to fanfics aren't always t advertising, right? 'Cause basically every fanfic page has a link to where they're located.

Also, this problem is frequent where fanfic appear. A link to the fanfic, instead of making a redlink...

I compromise, by having both the redlink and a link to the fic, so people can check, and when a page is actually made, the fic doesn't have to be tracked down.

Is that okay? 'Cause the only other solution that I think makes sense? ... Seems to be making a page, with just a link to the fic, to store the link so there's a link, and having a link makes sense 'cause these are free, publically accessible works?

Fighteer MOD
24th Jul, 2017 09:11:38 AM

Well, the obvious question is: why are we sending people away from our site to read the work when the point of an index is to let people find our articles? We aren't creating an index of fan fiction; we are creating an index of TV Tropes articles on fan fiction. Having a link to the work is great on the work article. On the index, it's completely missing the point.

Edited by Fighteer
24th Jul, 2017 09:24:49 AM

In which case, should the examples be purged? And should any similar examples be purged with them?

Fighteer MOD
24th Jul, 2017 09:35:24 AM

Examples may be kept, but the work should be a redlink to a hypothetical article on TV Tropes, encouraging people to create it.

27th Jul, 2017 12:59:39 AM

Bump since I remember Play-by-Post Games has a whole folder of external links-only and I'm going to replace them with wiki links.

(edit) Just barely touched it and I have to say that it's the best (worst) example of why linking to external site suck. Few external links in tropes list actually has article but either nobody care to update it or they want to keep the link in that page. Hell, this one is probably the most facepalm-induce crap.

  • BZPB started out as a simple turn-based game on the website BZ Power on March 31st, 2008. However, the players' imaginations really got to work, and it became a full-blown space epic within a year. After 200-something pages, the topic was locked by an admin for breaking the subforum rules (Role-playing games weren't allowed in that subforum, but all the other mods had ignored it seeing how big it had become). It continued immediately on the BZPB Wiki before moving to its own site here. Now approaching its sixth anniversary, it has enough content to warrant its own Tropes page, and all this time it has had a constant of around only ten players.

BTW, BZPB appear again in third folder. Since I'm going to replace all the links, may I merge the first folder with third? (And rename the remaining two folders as "Hosted on TV Tropes" and "Not Hosted on TV Tropes") I have to ask since it's pretty big change, even if sensible.

Edited by Kuruni
27th Jul, 2017 05:44:40 PM

Don't know about the labeling, but if there's duplicate work examples, absolutely merge them.

27th Jul, 2017 10:03:31 PM

Start working...

...My Mana-Yood-Sushai. There's hidden comment on the top encourage people to add external link as long as it isn't too much of advertising (from the entry I posted above, clearly nobody regulate it), and another request no NSFW link (except I found an entry say it's 18+ only). I'll repalce both with just "This is index for TV Tropes articles".

And another entry is about "regular forum but with specific RP section"...that's so common that it's People Sit On Chairs (I'm goiing to remove this one altogether).

Edited by Kuruni
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