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GnomeTitan Since: Aug, 2013
2016-12-19 04:00:08

I suppose you mean that the "audiende laughing at a dramatic moment" means that the audience perceives that moment as Narm?

I'd say that if the work is a recording of a live performance, that just happens to catch the audience reaction on tape, then the narm is not In-Universe, because it's not part of the work. The work is the performance on stage and does not include how the audience reacts.

But the audience reaction can be a part of the work, for example if the work is a documentary about a drama production, and the documentary also documents how the audience reacts: "Narrator's voice: 'The actors seem to have overplayed the drama a bit, because the audience doesn't react quite as intended'". Cut to laughing spectators." In that case, I'd say the narm is In-Universe.

Daefaroth Since: Jan, 2014
2016-12-19 04:14:38

Just as a side note. Narm is an unintended audience reaction. For a live performance that has been done multiple times it becomes obvious where the Narm is. So if it is still around by the time they do a recording of the live performance most likely it was either put in or left in intentionally, which may fall under Bathos rather than Narm.

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GnomeTitan Since: Aug, 2013
2016-12-19 04:42:24

Daefaroth: That's a good point, but in my example with the documentary it may well be that they are consciously documenting the unintended audience reactions.

And if it's just a plain recording of a live performance, I maintain that audience reactions can't be In-Universe, even if they appear in the recording.

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