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GnomeTitan Since: Aug, 2013
2016-11-06 14:41:15

I'm not familiar with the work, so I can't answer your question, but I'd say that these examples are very, very long. Would it be possible to shorten them a bit?

DarkHunter Since: Jan, 2001
2016-11-06 15:08:13

Honestly, I see barely any difference between the two, except that Ramona's is less wordy and therefore the better of the two in my mind.

However, I also think that both entries are WAY too long and too heavy on details. If I were to write the example, I'd say this:

  • Sorting Algorithm of Evil: Averted. The first villain in the series, Beerus, is far stronger than any of the heroes and more powerful than any of the villains who have come after him (so far). The rest of the villains have been roughly around the same level of power as each other, with only Black and Zamasu explicitly rising in power above those that came before, with both of them still being weaker than Beerus.

(There is admittedly a possibility that Zamasu's latest upgrade might put him near Beerus's strength level, but that is pure speculation at this point, and does not belong on the page.)

Edited by DarkHunter
Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
2016-11-06 16:22:34

Honestly, I do like Dark Hunter's example. Short to the point, although Zamasu's name need to be spoiler out. I will implement the change.

Gideoncrawle Since: Dec, 2012
2016-11-06 16:23:29

There's a more fundamental problem. Wiki policy is that aversions are not noteworthy except for tropes so common that straight examples wouldn't be noteworthy. Is Sorting Algorithm of Evil omnipresent enough to qualify?

Bigotry in the name of inclusion is still bigotry.
Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
2016-11-06 16:35:15

In this case, I think it's worth noting since the Dragon Ball series is well-known for its Sorting Algorithm of Evil to the point of parody. So to have a series that really doesn't have that stand out. If this was just a standard example, I would agree.

Gideoncrawle Since: Dec, 2012
2016-11-06 16:37:14

Also, the line in Dark Hunter's writeup, "...villains who have come after him (so far)" violates Examples Are Not Recent.

Bigotry in the name of inclusion is still bigotry.
Gideoncrawle Since: Dec, 2012
2016-11-06 16:44:33

^^ In that case, the example text needs to make that clear so it doesn't get snuffed in a cleanup. Perhaps something like, "The first series in the franchise to avert this trope."

Bigotry in the name of inclusion is still bigotry.
DarkHunter Since: Jan, 2001
2016-11-06 16:55:05

^^ Ack, you're right. Guess I wasn't paying as close attention because I wasn't actually editing a page.

Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
2016-11-06 17:33:10

Thank you for the suggestions.

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